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07/02/2008 05:16:57 PM · #26 |
Originally posted by blindjustice:
1. If photography is art and not science or craft, behave like fine artists, name accordingly. Look at the masters. They name a painting like its a novel. Like it has a life and a story behind it. Or they keep it simple. "Starry night" "Sunflowers" or, "Le déjeuner sur l'herbe" it was french, but you get the point. The point is, you don't have to be an impressionist painter to come up with an artistic name.
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Photography is a lot of science and a lot of craft. There are wonderful exceptions, but there is a general tendency for any photographers that call themselves artists to be winding their crying necks out beyond their elastic limits. Behaving like fine artists don't make it so. Don't look at masters, look where you're putting your feet. It takes longer to paint a picture than it does to produce a photograph, you may be devastated to hear. You end up with a lot of photographs. Titles help the sorting process.
Anyway, names is fun. Dilettantes ain't. |
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07/02/2008 05:18:28 PM · #27 |
I think the "rules" are more guidelines: In art/music long titles sometimes work
e.g. Standing Outside a Broken Phone Booth With Money in My Hand
Generally simple is better. Generally leaving the challenge name out of your title is a good idea. Feel free to break the rules but understanding them helps you understand where "painting outside the lines" might be a better way to go.
edit to add: It would be cool to have a challenge where the title was at least 5 words. Then again we'd get titles like "My Five Word Titled Picture"
:)
Message edited by author 2008-07-02 17:20:00.
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07/02/2008 05:19:09 PM · #28 |
 Bear_Music, I don't hate titles, I don't wish to eliminate them entirely, but I do like to judge a photo on its own merits. Sometime, coding evolution permitting, it just would be nice to do that once or twice. Titles are sometimes momentous, often ho-hum, and more often than I would like pretty sad. It is hard for me NOT to see the title - possibly there could be an individual thingee in the preferences to block them out. |
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07/02/2008 05:29:45 PM · #29 |
Here are some good examples of how a clever title enhances a photograph (which were all already great)...
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07/02/2008 05:31:07 PM · #30 |
I think I entered this one just for the title alone. Neither title nor image did well.
I've been shooting more candids lately. These are the worst. First off, by their candid nature, you don't know enough about the situation to begin with, so already you're at a disadvantage. I could try to caption it, a la Gary Larson, but now I'm forcing my interpretation of the scene on you -- biasing you, if you will. I like my images to stand on their own where possible.
Case in point. I originally titled this "Sisters." Now it's titled "Doing Lunch." I don't know if they're sisters or doing lunch or what. It doesn't really matter, except that I hate both titles. I could go poetic ("The Milk of Human Kindness") but that's not my style. I'm thinking of titling it "Bananas."
So with candids I've been using the most concise, objective and in some cases obvious titles I can come up with. |
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07/02/2008 05:35:36 PM · #31 |
Hi all,
I guess I will weigh in on this subject. In this man̢۪s opinion, titles are important. While beauty, or art, or idea, is in the eye of the beholder, it is often necessary to give the beholder a little nudge so there is at least a small amount of shared knowledge between the artist and the observer.
Someone once said that communication could not exist unless both parties already knew what each party would say. While I think it is a bit of a stretch, certainly putting both parties in the same context is crucial for understanding.
While one can perfectly legitimately judge an image on its impact on one, for this site and as I understand it, we are to judge and image both on artistic quality and it relationship to a challenge. For the second, I, for one, often need a nudge in the form of a title.
Well, such is one man's opinion. |
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07/02/2008 05:39:00 PM · #32 |
The titles may be a feeble attempt by us all to compensate for the overwhelming number of images submitted in challenges. The desire for us to have someone take that extra second is punctuated by a clever, and sometimes not so clever, title. By not placing a title on the image means the image has to stand out on its owns merits determined by it's initial impact, at least in this place. Yes, there are some rather moronic descriptions that sometimes describe the quality of the image they accompany. On the other hand, there are some equally strong images that are featured by some clever titles and these will be overlooked during voting. They will however earn their due respect in obscure "Post Challenge Recognition" threads while patiently gathering favorites as wandering eyes discover them over time.
The solution? Do not pick on the title as it is simply a calling card to beg the viewer to stop and chat for a minute. Some viewers are more engaging than others and some are merely here to race through the endless stream of visual poetry while missing the message.
We may be putting the cart in front of the horse on this one.
I'd like to title my response. "Ron"
Hmmmm .... that works. ;-) |
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07/02/2008 05:45:23 PM · #33 |
Originally posted by goc:
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Originally posted by goc:
been there, done that |
Uh huh ...  |
MWAHAHAHAHAHA, excellent ... really cool. |
A classic example of spoiling a shot with a title. Of course most wouldn't have figured it out but that's the appeal for those who would have.
Message edited by author 2008-07-02 17:45:44. |
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07/03/2008 12:16:59 AM · #34 |
I know- this is a bad title; but it was done as a joke because the challenge was wow factor, and we just had big thread discussions about DNMC. I did not want to be literal.
Originally posted by smardaz:
Originally posted by blindjustice:
I title my photos quite poorly at times, but its sad to see good photos with really bad, overexplanatory titles.
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case in point:
lol....sorry, i looked in your profile and couldn't resist |
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