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04/29/2008 09:34:15 PM · #126 |
Originally posted by DrAchoo:
That's a great anecdote notesinstones and one I'd hope would be repeated across the country. Just allow a few of us to act like speedbumps in our futile attempt to slow down the crush of cultural influence. Certainly you'd agree that there are images that would not be appropriate to have the same conversation with your kids. If that's the case then we both simply agree that our culture can cross boundaries. We just don't necessarily agree where those boundaries are. Again, I'm not too worried about this picture, I'm worried about the next one and the next one and the next one for Miley. The innocent kid in the blanket is so five-minutes ago Miley, let's see a bit more this time! |
You have made such great clear sense through all of this discussion. Showed it to my daughter last night (she is 16 and a big fan of Hannah), and she cheers you on 100%. |
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04/29/2008 09:39:21 PM · #127 |
Originally posted by cujee:
Did Miley say she regretted doing the shoot with Annie? |
Pretty well everybody regrets it but Vanity Fair. Miley says she's embarassed, Disney says she was exploited, Annie says she's sorry people have misinterpreted it (which is about as much an apology as you are going to get from an artist). Vanity Fair says, "hey, they all knew what they were getting into."
It's been an interesting discussion. I like what this lady had to say in an article I read:
The incident underscores the polarities that exist in society about how to view sexuality among girls -- repress it or exploit it, said Gigi Durham, author of "The Lolita Effect."
"Neither is healthy," she said.
Though the photographs are "artistically very beautiful," the magazine is "exploiting her body for profit," she said.
"I have certain qualms about exploiting girls' sexuality in this way," she said. "She's young and ought to be able to explore her sexual self without a commercial emphasis being put on it."
That is not to say that nudity or sex is bad, she said. Even teens ought to be able to express themselves sexually, she added. But, "within the commercial context, it becomes sexuality for profit, which is an entirely different issue."
I couldn't have said it better myself.
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04/29/2008 09:44:15 PM · #128 |
Originally posted by DrAchoo:
Originally posted by cujee:
Did Miley say she regretted doing the shoot with Annie? |
Pretty well everybody regrets it but Vanity Fair. Miley says she's embarassed, Disney says she was exploited, Annie says she's sorry people have misinterpreted it (which is about as much an apology as you are going to get from an artist). Vanity Fair says, "hey, they all knew what they were getting into."
It's been an interesting discussion. I like what this lady had to say in an article I read:
The incident underscores the polarities that exist in society about how to view sexuality among girls -- repress it or exploit it, said Gigi Durham, author of "The Lolita Effect."
"Neither is healthy," she said.
Though the photographs are "artistically very beautiful," the magazine is "exploiting her body for profit," she said.
"I have certain qualms about exploiting girls' sexuality in this way," she said. "She's young and ought to be able to explore her sexual self without a commercial emphasis being put on it."
That is not to say that nudity or sex is bad, she said. Even teens ought to be able to express themselves sexually, she added. But, "within the commercial context, it becomes sexuality for profit, which is an entirely different issue."
I couldn't have said it better myself. |
couldn't agree more |
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04/30/2008 11:37:03 AM · #129 |
This person (Miley) has already accomplished being a corporate chess piece who benefits from idolizing young girls out there who are encouraged to "be" like her. She's already exploited - revealing that she is actually a human being isn't any more exploitive than creating a doll that looks like her or plastering her name and image all over junky products produced in China. This photo shoot is meant to humanize her. Pull away the mask and you have a real person there. This is posturing for a life that doesn't fizzle out like many before her. She is guided by industry experts and obviously the profits are felt all around her.
She's part of a revenue generation machine which fits right into the puzzle of corporate greed.
Naturally Disney says she's been exploited because they want to distance themselves from this - and they probably didn't profit directly from it but most likely will in the end.
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04/30/2008 12:03:11 PM · #130 |
I make my daughters listen to Beth Ditto... while they sleep, in the car... just to counter the sugar-pop that comes coated on those blasted Hanna Montana CD's going all the time around here.
I know I'm the exception to the rule. I just wish all parents whos kids are OMGMILEY! right now would stop long enough to think about it. If your kid is 8 and Miley is 15... she is going to grow up (and make mistakes, and crash her car, and blossom physically into maturity, and try alcohol and do stupid stuff like all teenagers do eventually) long before your kid who is 8 is going too.
Anyway, my first thought seeing the photo in question was "Wow, lookit' her getting out from under Disney..." Not "OMG MILEYS NEKKID!" I mean seriously, my kids aren't going to be flipping through Vanity Fair anytime soon even if Miley was in it. The cover was an image of JFK, she wasn't on the cover in a provocative pose - which is where I would imagine a shot taken to "sell magazines" would have been placed. |
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