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 04/11/2008 09:12:00 AM · #26
have you guys chosen your Goliath, yet?

:)
 04/11/2008 09:13:46 AM · #27
Originally posted by scalvert:
Oh, good... a thread where we can express our disbelief in the creator. As in, "I can't believe anyone found it necessary to create this thread in response to the other one." :-/

Amen. Uhm, no, I mean...
 04/11/2008 09:14:21 AM · #28
<-- Philosophy major, agnostic, lover of this life, believer that it should be lived to the fullest because we are incapable of knowing where we go after this.

Basically I see any and all religions as forms of science, in that they are attempts at explaining our physical reality. When it comes to such matter, I prefer to rely on the (admittedly flawed) powers that man possesses to reason and to come to conclusions about his environment through study, discourse, and the like.

We're not perfect, but when it comes to understanding the cosmos, the best we can do is INQUIRE, not adhere to dogma that, simply put, defies the logic that we base the rest of our lives on.

Also, I honestly don't see how anybody can 'chose' one religion over another. What possible criteria could there be to make one religion more valid than another? No, it seems to me that people just stick with what they are brought up with in whatever culture they were born into. That never made sense to me.

my two pennies :/
 04/11/2008 09:19:06 AM · #29
I'm not superstitious.
 04/11/2008 09:19:16 AM · #30
I'm anapestic. Does that COUNT for anYthing these DAYS?
 04/11/2008 09:21:22 AM · #31
Is it true that an agnostic believes there are no absolutes?
 04/11/2008 09:27:30 AM · #32
I worship pink flying toasters. If it weren't for the toaster, i would have lost my way long ago.
 04/11/2008 09:27:45 AM · #33
Originally posted by scalvert:
Oh, good... a thread where we can express our disbelief in the creator. As in, "I can't believe anyone found it necessary to create this thread in response to the other one." :-/


I'm from a place where everyone's a religious prick. So I feel it necessary at times to proclaim my belief in nonbelief.
 04/11/2008 09:27:52 AM · #34
Originally posted by LuDeLush:
Is it true that an agnostic believes there are no absolutes?


Absolutely.
 04/11/2008 09:31:32 AM · #35
Originally posted by FocusPoint:
I am not sure where I stand. I sure don't believe in god as most religions describe. For me, there is universe and unknown. Unknown that we probably will not know for sometime, or forever... as it is I just don't know and I don't want to put a name on it... just yet.

I can't say I am an atheist... since we can't explain (in physical life) what is consciousness, there could be something that might be after death, again I don't want to put name on it, I just don't know.
I am not spiritual, although there might be some entities other than form we are in. Could be anything, but I don't call them ghosts or angels... just entities.

I do believe in other intelligent life forms and even I believe we live with some, here or there or both places. I can't say for certain though if it is true...

I believe universe is like a well oil machine. Everything has a reason. I don't think no one or nothing can harm universe.

If anyone knows what this is called or if any religion describes what I believe, please let me know.

(To those religious people who think I am a lost soul trying to find the way... please, don't. What I said here is what I think as same you are with your own religion, and I respect your religion, you should also respect my thoughts... don't pull this to your way make it look like your thing... because it's not)

In my very limited knowledge, this sounds a lot like Taoism. Basically a philosophy based on the flow of the universe and nature.
 04/11/2008 09:32:03 AM · #36
i think it's more accurate to say an agnostic believes that absolutes (or universal non absolutes) are not knowable.

Originally posted by LuDeLush:
Is it true that an agnostic believes there are no absolutes?

04/11/2008 09:33:05 AM · #37
Originally posted by scalvert:
Oh, good... a thread where we can express our disbelief in the creator. As in, "I can't believe anyone found it necessary to create this thread in response to the other one." :-/


It wasn't that this thread was created so that others can share something with others who think like them, but it was obviously created to piss someone off and start a debate that has no ending. The OP has acheived what he set out to do. This thread could have been created without posting an invite into the other thread.

Message edited by scalvert - Personal attack removed.
 04/11/2008 09:33:06 AM · #38
Originally posted by shamrock:
Originally posted by LuDeLush:
Is it true that an agnostic believes there are no absolutes?


Absolutely.


So, by virtue of believing there are "absolutely" no absolutes, aren't you contradicting your own belief?
 04/11/2008 09:38:03 AM · #39
Personal attacks removed. To whatever extent possible with these threads, let's keep it civil please.
 04/11/2008 09:53:42 AM · #40
What I hate most about religions is its call to its members to come out and proclaim themselves as a god's children and the feeling of mob mentality that arises from this proclamation.

You are doing the same with this thread.

I am not Christian, Muslim, Catholic, Hindu, Atheist, Agnostic etc etc etc.

I am a human being.

Species = Homo Sapiens Sapiens.

I don't believe in superstitions like walking under ladders or breaking mirrors and I categorize religions as superstitions.

Evolution is the only reason we are here, the proof is there. That's all I need.
 04/11/2008 10:04:21 AM · #41
You can call it whatever you want. Believing in scientific proof is logical. I'm sure not always totally flawless. After all we're limited to human error and the tools available at the time.

So do you denounce all possibilities of some form of supreme-existance, behind our meager unknowing existance?
So there is no possibility whatsoever of any unknown intelligence?

In this apparently chaotic, yet intricately amazing physics of our bodies, planet, and universe, there are surely many things unexplainable.

It seems logical to not attribute things to any particular God.
But I would not denounce the existance of any "intelligence" behind it all. It may exist in forms unknown and yet to be discovered.

I do believe there is much unknown to us.
We are merely just Cavemen living in dark caves.
 04/11/2008 10:08:27 AM · #42
Originally posted by Jac:
What I hate most about religions is its call to its members to come out and proclaim themselves as a god's children and the feeling of mob mentality that arises from this proclamation.

You are doing the same with this thread.

I am not Christian, Muslim, Catholic, Hindu, Atheist, Agnostic etc etc etc.

I am a human being.


Well said. I do see my hypocrisy.

Although... not trying to defend religion or anything, I just don't think that's what religion's all about, just proclaiming yourself as part of some in-group.

And perhaps we're simply expressing our view on the matter, like you are. If you've noticed, not everyone has came out and said O I'm an atheist, let us denounce and lynch. I found people's view on the matter interesting, like yours.
 04/11/2008 10:17:46 AM · #43
Originally posted by scalvert:
Personal attacks removed. To whatever extent possible with these threads, let's keep it civil please.

/me thinks that these threads are a train wreck waiting to happen and that they will be in RANT soon.

As for me setting both to IGNORE.
 04/11/2008 10:38:48 AM · #44
Checking in as a Non-Christian simply because we need to be seen too. :) I'll leave further details of my religious affiliation completely out of it however since I loathe hate mail.

xoxo
Jenn
 04/11/2008 11:29:03 AM · #45
I tend to skip these threads too. But I feel that the message that some people who actually do not believe in anything, and are leading healthy, productive lives and have loving families who have morals and know the difference between what's right and what's wrong, has to be written and publicized to let others know that there are alternatives.

I cannot remain silent.

I also know that my short comments are very general in nature but I want to stress that I respect everyone's ideas and beliefs no matter what side of the fence you're on.

I need to go take photos now... and go change my forum settings.
 04/11/2008 11:33:14 AM · #46
Well, my response will give us the same number of replies as the Christian thread! :)
 04/11/2008 11:43:09 AM · #47
Originally posted by _eug:
Originally posted by scalvert:
Personal attacks removed. To whatever extent possible with these threads, let's keep it civil please.

/me thinks that these threads are a train wreck waiting to happen and that they will be in RANT soon.

As for me setting both to IGNORE.


Ditto
 04/11/2008 11:50:20 AM · #48
Sally Kern might have something to say about our godlessness...
 04/11/2008 11:54:22 AM · #49
You can consider me agnostic or lover of all religions. I believe all religions preach good and it is us, the humans, that misinterpret the messages either by ill will or by close mindedness. I don't believe in tags (just like i don't walk around telling people i'm a photographer), and I don't believe in limiting myself to the knowledge of one particular religion. I do my research and assimilate what i like or what I consider worthy of being a part of myself. Interpret any reading with love and appreciation of other forms of life and you'll see that there are not religions that are better than others and very very deep down, all religions preach the same thing - RESPECT and FORGIVE. The way they phrase or approach respect is different, but in the end I believe that there is no religion out there that truly preaches hate and intolerance, it is us that misinterpret the messages.
Respect all forms of life, no matter what they are or where they come from.
I also believe there are things we don't understand and we might never be able to understand, but that is why nature is wiser than us.
 04/11/2008 12:47:46 PM · #50
Originally posted by LuDeLush:
Originally posted by shamrock:
Originally posted by LuDeLush:
Is it true that an agnostic believes there are no absolutes?


Absolutely.


So, by virtue of believing there are "absolutely" no absolutes, aren't you contradicting your own belief?


Nah. I worship the toaster. I'm just being a smartass :)
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