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10/08/2003 08:08:40 AM · #1 |
now that the "irony" challenge is over i would very much like to plead to update the rules not to allow graphic presentations of decomposed bodies of roadkill. thankyouverymuch.
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10/08/2003 08:21:07 AM · #2 |
If you do that. there are other things that other people don't want to look at, and would like to see not premitted here, but no one will do anything about those either. No use even mentioning them, all that will happen is people will cry that it is senorship.
I just wish that the site would allow each member to be able to block cetain photos as they vote so they don't have to see them again. But as I was told that isn't going to happen. |
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10/08/2003 08:32:51 AM · #3 |
| Just quickly give it the 1 it deserves and move on. Wish there was a minus button one could apply to images of that type to express how rude they are. |
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10/08/2003 08:41:08 AM · #4 |
Death isn't rude, it's a fact of life.
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10/08/2003 08:44:50 AM · #5 |
Why is something killed on a highway worth a one, only because it is dead? This is all a part of the life cycle. I thought this was a photography/artistic site? Is there not a part of this involved in the photos?
This was my very first submission here. I believe it is a decent photo that has a lot to say and interpret, but because it is a dead raccoon, it deserves a 1?
Considering that I work in a Emergency Room, maybe I can see a different side of this. Everything has to die. Sometimes it is not all that pretty, and to me, being aware and exposed to some of it only broadens understanding.
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10/08/2003 08:47:24 AM · #6 |
Originally posted by dacrazyrn:
I thought this was a photography/artistic site? |
Where on earth did you get that idea from?
; )
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10/08/2003 08:55:42 AM · #7 |
Originally posted by OneSweetSin:
If you do that. there are other things that other people don't want to look at, and would like to see not premitted here, but no one will do anything about those either. No use even mentioning them, all that will happen is people will cry that it is senorship.
I just wish that the site would allow each member to be able to block cetain photos as they vote so they don't have to see them again. But as I was told that isn't going to happen. |
Great idea, I need never look at a photo of a cat or child again |
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10/08/2003 09:00:29 AM · #8 |
Originally posted by bod:
Originally posted by dacrazyrn:
I thought this was a photography/artistic site? |
Where on earth did you get that idea from?
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Okay...no artistry. LOL I forgot...stock, setup, in studio, photos of flowers and still life things. Oh yeah, bugs (which alot could be dead, too--uh oh, better DQ all the winners in the Macro challenge, unless they can email the live bug used to the admins).
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10/08/2003 10:06:37 AM · #9 |
Originally posted by robsmith:
Originally posted by OneSweetSin:
If you do that. there are other things that other people don't want to look at, and would like to see not premitted here, but no one will do anything about those either. No use even mentioning them, all that will happen is people will cry that it is senorship.
I just wish that the site would allow each member to be able to block cetain photos as they vote so they don't have to see them again. But as I was told that isn't going to happen. |
Great idea, I need never look at a photo of a cat or child again |
I agree... Everyone finds something offensive and to have a filter to not show "nudity" (as defined globally by someone) is not even an effective bandaid. It seems to make more sense to have a checkbox that says "I don't want to see this" and let everyone censor what they see themselves. I don't know how difficult this would be to set up, but I think it's worth a look...
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10/08/2003 10:12:01 AM · #10 |
I agree that they could set up a "I don't want to see this photo again" check box for people who think they need it.
If that would be the case, then checking the box should automatically nullify your vote (and maybe your comment) for that picture or stop you from placing a vote.
That would help to keep the trolls away from the more controversial photos that get smashed to bits.
The only problem is, what happens is the photo that repulses you wins?
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10/08/2003 10:18:22 AM · #11 |
Originally posted by myqyl:
Originally posted by robsmith:
Originally posted by OneSweetSin:
If you do that. there are other things that other people don't want to look at, and would like to see not premitted here, but no one will do anything about those either. No use even mentioning them, all that will happen is people will cry that it is senorship.
I just wish that the site would allow each member to be able to block cetain photos as they vote so they don't have to see them again. But as I was told that isn't going to happen. |
Great idea, I need never look at a photo of a cat or child again |
I agree... Everyone finds something offensive and to have a filter to not show "nudity" (as defined globally by someone) is not even an effective bandaid. It seems to make more sense to have a checkbox that says "I don't want to see this" and let everyone censor what they see themselves. I don't know how difficult this would be to set up, but I think it's worth a look... |
The nudity filter is only there to allow people to connect from work and to cover general work contract requirements. It isn't supposed to be a filter for things you don't want to see - after all you see it during voting.
The only reason it is there is to allow people to view the front page with less risk to their jobs, if a nude image happens to win. Assuming it is part of some moral standard or attempt to allow people to hide things is a misunderstanding and not what it was instigated for. The decision not to allow individual personal censorship is a simple matter of overhead, keeping track of every image individually for every member is a lot of overhead for the site.
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10/08/2003 10:19:51 AM · #12 |
how would we have seen what REALLY went on in Vietnam
-w/o photographs of the death and destruction we invoked.
a photograph is supposed to relay an emotion - that could be happy
could be sad - could be downright repulsive - but if the photo relays that on to the viewer - the subject matter is of no importance really.
the raccoon photo is no different.
on top of that - with a challenge theme of Despair - you would have to assume there would be some distrubing subject matter.
soup |
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10/08/2003 12:39:54 PM · #13 |
Originally posted by dacrazyrn:
Why is something killed on a highway worth a one, only because it is dead? This is all a part of the life cycle. I thought this was a photography/artistic site? Is there not a part of this involved in the photos? |
Yes this is part of the site. So by the very definition of art some people will like it and some people will not.
Originally posted by dacrazyrn:
This was my very first submission here. I believe it is a decent photo that has a lot to say and interpret, but because it is a dead raccoon, it deserves a 1? |
To someone who finds it very disturbing to see something dead it may deserve a one. If someone dislikes an image enough to not want to see it again, I don't see any other vote they could make in good concience...
Originally posted by dacrazyrn:
Considering that I work in a Emergency Room, maybe I can see a different side of this. Everything has to die. Sometimes it is not all that pretty, and to me, being aware and exposed to some of it only broadens understanding. |
And someone who isn't exposed to it on a daily basis may feel that they do not wish to be exposed to the imagery of death. This doesn't make their feeling right or wrong it's what they feel.
Just trying to see both sides of an issue!
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10/08/2003 12:43:08 PM · #14 |
Originally posted by Gordon:
The decision not to allow individual personal censorship is a simple matter of overhead, keeping track of every image individually for every member is a lot of overhead for the site. |
I haven't done much programming for web based apps, but it would seem to me the "censored list" could be stored on the client side and then the overhead is all placed on the user via cookies...
Personally I can't think of any images I would check the "Don't show me this again" box on... I'd like to see this so I won't have to see this thread again next week :) But I can always take my own advice and just ignore the forums :)
... Nevermind :)
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10/08/2003 01:14:49 PM · #15 |
Originally posted by dacrazyrn:
This was my very first submission here. I believe it is a decent photo that has a lot to say and interpret, but because it is a dead raccoon, it deserves a 1?
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Actually, I don't really mind the dead racoon. It's the dead looking trees in the background that really bother me. What a senseless waste of plant life. |
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10/08/2003 01:58:12 PM · #16 |
Let's take a poll on what subject matter should be banned. If anyone objects to certain subject matter then that subject will be banned.
Then we can vote on how well the blank screen fits the challenge. That will be fun!!!
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10/08/2003 02:33:54 PM · #17 |
Originally posted by myqyl:
Originally posted by robsmith:
Originally posted by OneSweetSin:
If you do that. there are other things that other people don't want to look at, and would like to see not premitted here, but no one will do anything about those either. No use even mentioning them, all that will happen is people will cry that it is senorship.
I just wish that the site would allow each member to be able to block cetain photos as they vote so they don't have to see them again. But as I was told that isn't going to happen. |
Great idea, I need never look at a photo of a cat or child again |
I agree... Everyone finds something offensive and to have a filter to not show "nudity" (as defined globally by someone) is not even an effective bandaid. It seems to make more sense to have a checkbox that says "I don't want to see this" and let everyone censor what they see themselves. I don't know how difficult this would be to set up, but I think it's worth a look... |
I've been through this before in the forum. I don't mind seeing the nude photos, or the roadkill photos, but just like those who dislike pets, flowers and child photos I simply detest the violence and drug related photos. But as I was informed previously that is sensorship and it just isn't going to happen! |
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10/08/2003 02:50:46 PM · #18 |
Originally posted by robsmith:
Great idea, I need never look at a photo of a cat or child again |
*****hisssssssssss*********
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10/08/2003 03:29:10 PM · #19 |
Originally posted by Spazmo99:
Let's take a poll on what subject matter should be banned. If anyone objects to certain subject matter then that subject will be banned.
Then we can vote on how well the blank screen fits the challenge. That will be fun!!! |
I'm with you. I don't think anything should be "banned" per se. I do also, however, believe that people should vote with their consience. If you don't like seeing dead things (or drugs or violence or nudity or cats or bugs, ad nauseum) vote lower on them and (in theory) eventually if the DPC community doesn't like images of dead things they would stop showing up here because of low scores!
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10/08/2003 03:45:46 PM · #20 |
Originally posted by toocool:
Originally posted by Spazmo99:
Let's take a poll on what subject matter should be banned. If anyone objects to certain subject matter then that subject will be banned.
Then we can vote on how well the blank screen fits the challenge. That will be fun!!! |
I'm with you. I don't think anything should be "banned" per se. I do also, however, believe that people should vote with their consience. If you don't like seeing dead things (or drugs or violence or nudity or cats or bugs, ad nauseum) vote lower on them and (in theory) eventually if the DPC community doesn't like images of dead things they would stop showing up here because of low scores! |
Except for those of us who are emotionally detatched from the numerical score, and submit what we like and hope will stimulate thought and commentary.
And I most strongly object to seeing that blank blue screen again, so I guess we can all just turn off our monitors and save electricity.
Message edited by author 2003-10-08 15:47:04. |
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10/08/2003 03:52:11 PM · #21 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Except for those of us who are emotionally detatched from the numerical score, and submit what we like and hope will stimulate thought and commentary. |
That's why I say in theory! Personally I hope none of this ever happens. I like the diversity and acknowledge that with diversitiy will come things that make me uncomfortible or that I just plain old don't aggree with/believe in! I do try and understand why others might think differently though and respect their thoughts and differences of oppinions.
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10/08/2003 04:10:02 PM · #22 |
I quite like the picture... It is not gorey and it aint disturbing, like many folks above have said is that this is a site where you may use your artistic license etc...
To start banning certain subject matters would be wrong for a start, the rules as tehy are now are plain, concise and clear. If you dont like a particular shot then sorry but i feel its your problem. Not only that but there was another thread on here stating that there was alot of ppl posting snapshots and not much thought going into them, again though maybe the case its your own interpretation of the image and perhaps some of the pics that you thought were snapshots are artistic merit !
I dont know fully what some people expect from this site but i think its great, the newbies like me can only learn from it... Whats wrong with that.
But let me say again the picture above of the roadkill is very good. |
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10/08/2003 04:12:55 PM · #23 |
Originally posted by toocool:
Originally posted by Spazmo99:
Let's take a poll on what subject matter should be banned. If anyone objects to certain subject matter then that subject will be banned.
Then we can vote on how well the blank screen fits the challenge. That will be fun!!! |
I'm with you. I don't think anything should be "banned" per se. I do also, however, believe that people should vote with their consience. If you don't like seeing dead things (or drugs or violence or nudity or cats or bugs, ad nauseum) vote lower on them and (in theory) eventually if the DPC community doesn't like images of dead things they would stop showing up here because of low scores! |
Are we voting for the types of photographs we would like to see on dpchallenge or for the photographic strength of a particular image?
I don't really like all the spider photos, but I have NEVER given a 1 as a form of negative reinforcement. I vote based on the photographic merit, not my personal like, or dislike, of the subject matter. |
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10/08/2003 04:13:05 PM · #24 |
| When people see roadkill on the road up ahead do they just drive with their eyes shut so they don't have to see it? |
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10/08/2003 04:17:14 PM · #25 |
| The bottom line is that people just need to lighten up a bit...I am a cat lover I will admit..but did that stop me from voting fairly...no...Now if it had been my cat squished on the road I might have not been able to be so open-minded lol, If you don't like it just skip over it and go to the next one, it's not that big of a deal, and overall probably isn't even an issue too often on this site. |
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