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01/11/2008 01:46:29 AM · #1 |
So the other day when I was taking my time lapse entry I set everything up, put my camera on flash WB and started to shoot away. After I was done a number of shots I loaded them up onto the comp to check them out and noticed that for some reason my WB when loaded into lightroom had As Shot of 6150k tint -9. I thought whoa! what the.. but I didn't have time to investigate much further so I changed the WB to flash, it looked good and away I went.
I looked in the book for my D200 and saw that flash WB should be approximately 5400K, which is way off. I then took some more pictures with the other WB presets to investigate a little further and found that some are quite close but others(like flash) are right out to lunch. I made sure there was no +- tuning on and everything. The final straw was when I set the WB to Kelvin temp, dialed it in to 5000k it came out as 4750, dialed it to 5300k it came out as 5000! WTF
Any thoughts ideas or info that can be shared is apreciated, I dunno whats going on. |
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01/11/2008 03:21:16 AM · #2 |
| I don't know Lightroom, but maybe it is set to auto correct the white balance and not simply leave it "as shot". If you shoot in jpeg and raw, and check the exif on the jpeg, it may be set to flash, but lightroom may adjust to what it thinks it should be in the converter. |
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01/11/2008 03:51:10 AM · #3 |
Is this because Lightroom cannot read the Nikon WB settings?
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01/11/2008 04:55:15 AM · #4 |
I assume you're shooting RAW?
Originally posted by Mr_Pants:
Is this because Lightroom cannot read the Nikon WB settings? |
^^^ What he said. Basically the only RAW conversion software which gives you the correct WB setting is Nikon Capture NX. The others use their own WB approximation (as Nikon encrypt their WB values in the RAW file) |
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01/11/2008 05:01:02 AM · #5 |
| I only shoot in RAW using white balance in "flash" for all my shots and have no problems at all, and I use Lightroom. Try doing a camera reset and try again. |
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01/11/2008 07:11:44 AM · #6 |
Not sure if this is exactly the same problem, but when I look at my RAW files from the 30D in Bridge, the WB is as-shot, and they look fine. But any time I look at RAW files from my G9 in Bridge, it applies some adjustment right after generating the thumbnails that makes them all a funny blue. I have to right click and have it revert to a previous version to undo the weirdness.
I know we're talking about two different pieces of software here, but perhaps they have something in common in this?
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01/11/2008 10:30:04 AM · #7 |
Hmmm, I'll have to try both the full camera reset and loading them in Capture NX when I get home from work.
Thx guys |
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01/12/2008 04:56:33 AM · #8 |
| Opening it with Capture NX does recognize the WB info, thats odd. I wonder how kiwi has it set up to work with lightroom. |
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01/12/2008 07:10:10 AM · #9 |
Originally posted by kiwiness:
I only shoot in RAW using white balance in "flash" for all my shots and have no problems at all, and I use Lightroom. Try doing a camera reset and try again. |
I remember Gary saying this a long while back and I followed suit. Never ever had any regrets at keeping the WB mode in flash (and always shoot in RAW too). One of the best things I ever learned from DPC.
Message edited by author 2008-01-12 07:10:45. |
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01/12/2008 07:53:13 AM · #10 |
I investigated the Nikon WB issue last October. The only conversion s/w which decodes the WB setting the same way as your camera is Capture NX (or any of the Nikon s/w). What you will find with other conversion s/w is that they get close to the Nikon settings, but not exactly the same. So if you set your WB to 5500K in-camera, then Capture NX will convert the WB settings and show you 5500K as the temperature, this is because Nikon use the same decoding algorithms in their s/w as in their cameras. However, any third party conversion software will use their own conversion algorithm for WB, so although the WB might look the same or very close to Nikons the actual temperature shown will be different. And some conversion s/w gets it closer than others.
Anyway, just to save you driving yourself insane with this, like I did, here are the threads;
Thread 1: //forums.acdsystems.com/index.php?showtopic=5474 (scroll down for the Nikon stuff)
Thread 2: //www.dpchallenge.com/forum.php?action=read&FORUM_THREAD_ID=696281 |
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01/15/2008 10:22:47 AM · #11 |
Originally posted by jhonan:
I investigated the Nikon WB issue last October. The only conversion s/w which decodes the WB setting the same way as your camera is Capture NX (or any of the Nikon s/w)... |
Actually that used to be the case but a little while back Bibble broke the encryption on the WB.
See here:
//support.bibblelabs.com/webboard/viewtopic.php?t=8154
It was also mentioned a in a few threads here a while back.
Greg
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01/15/2008 10:56:25 AM · #12 |
| I see similar issues with Lightroom's defaults for WB with Canon cameras. You could just save new default values though. |
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01/15/2008 10:59:22 AM · #13 |
Originally posted by good_ham:
Originally posted by jhonan:
I investigated the Nikon WB issue last October. The only conversion s/w which decodes the WB setting the same way as your camera is Capture NX (or any of the Nikon s/w)... |
Actually that used to be the case but a little while back Bibble broke the encryption on the WB.
See here:
//support.bibblelabs.com/webboard/viewtopic.php?t=8154 |
Interesting, thanks for the link. I didn't realise that. |
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