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03/27/2007 07:27:01 PM · #126 |
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03/27/2007 07:41:29 PM · #127 |
Originally posted by EducatedSavage:
Let's remember, too, that this is our blue ribboner - that speaks volumes. |
I concur ...
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03/27/2007 08:01:01 PM · #128 |
Originally posted by bradshaw:
kinda sad that we push a unhealthy wieght onto are youth look around at are school yards and its not very hard to see the girls who are influenced by the images they see.
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It's ok... after the freshman year of college, they'll be fat like the rest of us. It seems we have not only become the most overweight people in history, bu also the most conscious about weight in general.
It's ok though, the smokers are all either dying or quitting, so we need someone to pick on right?
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03/27/2007 08:11:19 PM · #129 |
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03/27/2007 08:16:53 PM · #130 |
| This thread has elevated this image to #24 on the most comments list. It will be number one before to long. :-P |
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03/27/2007 09:08:37 PM · #131 |
Originally posted by fotomann_forever:
Originally posted by bradshaw:
kinda sad that we push a unhealthy wieght onto are youth look around at are school yards and its not very hard to see the girls who are influenced by the images they see.
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It's ok... after the freshman year of college, they'll be fat like the rest of us. It seems we have not only become the most overweight people in history, bu also the most conscious about weight in general.
It's ok though, the smokers are all either dying or quitting, so we need someone to pick on right? |
er.. im not american. and still its usally the over weight girls who have the troubles with there body image and tend to do harm to them selves to look good.
also when some one makes a comment on a forum we should all take it with a grain of salt.
if we should pick on any one its the comunists<--j/k
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03/27/2007 10:02:48 PM · #132 |
Uh-oh... I wonder if the smiling pig was upset that I called it hairy, ugly and unappealing? That was my reaction to that photo, so that is what I said in my comment. Perhaps if the subject had been human rather than a pig I would not have made that comment.
Seriously though, it seems to me that in the cobra charmer photo, the photographer used lighting and pose to intentionally accentuated the model's slimness and to create such a snake-like appearance. I saw the photo during voting and did not comment or vote on it because I thought her appearance was so unusual that it was altered digitally, and wasn't sure if it was legal. I find it interesting that comments like 'freaky', 'creepy' or 'disturbing' aren't offensive, but comments about her weight are. I'm not sure how comments like 'freaky' are distinct from comments like 'anorexic.' Really, it appears the intent was all of these, freaky, disturbing, creepy, and to make her look as thin and long as possible. The photo is shocking and I believe it was meant to be. Therefore, people have left comments as to what was most shocking to them, including her thin appearance.
The thing I most value about DPC is the comments that people give. I am concerned that discussions like this will turn people away from leaving comments. |
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03/27/2007 10:07:29 PM · #133 |
Originally posted by fencekicker:
...The thing I most value about DPC is the comments that people give. I am concerned that discussions like this will turn people away from leaving comments. |
As is often overhead in the local vernacular... No shit holmes!!!
Ray
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03/27/2007 10:12:58 PM · #134 |
Originally posted by bradshaw:
er.. im not american. and still its usally the over weight girls who have the troubles with there body image and tend to do harm to them selves to look good. |
Totally incorrect, sorry. Anorexia, Bulimia and other body dismorphic disorders are not more prevalent in heavier people. In fact, it usually strikes skinnier people harder. |
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03/27/2007 10:13:55 PM · #135 |
Originally posted by fencekicker:
The thing I most value about DPC is the comments that people give. I am concerned that discussions like this will turn people away from leaving comments. |
It's entirely possible and appropriate to leave comments that express any opinion without resorting to rudeness. |
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03/27/2007 10:44:37 PM · #136 |
Originally posted by Spazmo99:
The issue of putting his image into a contest is irrelevant. The fact is that people are making judgments about the behavior and medical status of another person based on incomplete information. I might add that these are judgments they are in no way qualified to make, even if they are medically trained. These people are then taking their ill-conceived notions and then presenting them in a rude and inappropriate manner in public. |
This is just a symptom of what some people call the "nanny state".
While remarks to you might be perceived as rude, be sure you have your documentation. Some of these people go far beyond remarks. They'll hand you over to child welfare. And they'll do it based on their incomplete and uninformed information.
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03/27/2007 10:47:42 PM · #137 |
Originally posted by EducatedSavage:
Let's remember, too, that this is our blue ribboner - that speaks volumes. |
Sure does. A lot of people really liked the image. I'm one of them. Comments and favorites galore. Thousands of views since the challenge. A few ill conceived comments. To borrow from Stu,
much a do about nothing. It doesn't take anything away from the image.
Life moves on....... hopefully.
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03/28/2007 10:29:30 AM · #138 |
OK lets take into consideration several thing here, the idea of beauty and health can be very subjective, and defined diffrently in various cultures. Ultimatly what I see in the Cobra Charmer image is a very thin woman, and with the color tones and lighting a woman who appears to be unhealthy. I know there are naturally thin people out there, my older sister until she had children was built very much like her and is still thin, she was hurt many time by being accused of having an eating disorder when in fact she ate quite a bit and just chould not gain weight. This however does not mean that her slight build and thinness was healthy.
All that said photography is art and again subjective, and in many ways Art is a social commentary, don't agree then take a history calss on ancient civilizations, or an art history class much of what we know of the past was in the art of the time, 1000 years from now when most of our papers have turned to dust and digital archives ignored or rusted people studying us may have to turn to things such as our art what kinds of things might be inferred by looking at an image such as this. Or what type of thoughts would a person from a diffrent country think of your own work. Quite simply the fact it won the blue with an image of somone so thin makes a commentary on those that voted it high weather it was for the artistic qualities or the model. But most simply put a diffrent model would not have been able to perform the pose and give it the same look so she is as intregral a part of the image as the photographer and the lighting. You would not have the image without her. So comments on the model to me are quite valid, while some my seem inapproiate weight is a senstive issue and many have a difficult time discussing it so many act imature or joke about it while their concern is still quite serious.
All that said I agree that this model appears to be unhealthy from this image and the fact it won seems to reinforce the notion that beauty must be thin and can give that impression to youg girls. But I do not think that was the intent of the photographer and do think the image was very well executed but is not to my taste and would not have scored it well had I voted on this challange. |
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03/28/2007 10:41:17 AM · #139 |
Originally posted by Art Roflmao:
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/me also think this way :-)  |
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03/28/2007 10:48:10 AM · #140 |
Originally posted by fir3bird:
Originally posted by Spazmo99:
The issue of putting his image into a contest is irrelevant. The fact is that people are making judgments about the behavior and medical status of another person based on incomplete information. I might add that these are judgments they are in no way qualified to make, even if they are medically trained. These people are then taking their ill-conceived notions and then presenting them in a rude and inappropriate manner in public. |
This is just a symptom of what some people call the "nanny state".
While remarks to you might be perceived as rude, be sure you have your documentation. Some of these people go far beyond remarks. They'll hand you over to child welfare. And they'll do it based on their incomplete and uninformed information. |
I'd gladly discuss my child's condition with a child welfare worker, it's their business to intervene is case where abuse or maltreatment is suspected. I'll even give them consent, not that they would need it, to discuss his treatment with the specialist or any other doctors treating him. The simple fact that NOT treating my son's condition would likely have resulted in a slow agonizing death would probably help them understand that his parents are making decisions about treatment with his best interest in mind. In fact, I'd rather have a concerned citizen take that approach than to verbally harass my family with their rude, ill-informed nosiness into matters which are none of their goddamn business in the first place.
As far as being "perceived" as rude, how can comments like "Hey, quit feeding your kid so much junk food, he's already a porker." or "Wow, that is one fat kid, is he on the all-Twinkie diet?" be taken or intended as anything other than rude. During the course of his treatment, I heard so many comments, directed at me or my wife, those are just the tip of the iceberg. |
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03/28/2007 11:06:40 AM · #141 |
| WOW!! YOUR IMAGE MADE QUITE AN IMPACT!! AWESOME WORK, TOYAN!! |
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03/29/2007 01:53:58 PM · #142 |
I make it a point (and I teach my kids) never to judge on appearance and never to make fun of someonw based upon appearance.
That being said- don't put a picture up if you don't want a comment. Albeit, we have a duty to call out the mindless and childlike commenter as well. Its tough being part of an artistic or enlightened community.
That being said- I like the photo a lot. The pose, the technical aspects, lighting, eposure- etc. But the neck anatomy just doesn't look natural to me. Honestly focus on the back of the neck.
I think commenters here suffer from the lack of knowledge that just because you have a thought, doesn't mean you should express it, or that anybody else wants to hear it. |
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