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10/25/2002 10:50:12 AM · #26
Originally posted by zadore:
Hey John, out of curiousity...is there a way you can take a snapshot of your setup...I'm interested in knowing how you setup that shot and what you used.

In fact (and this is for everyone else) I would like to find out more about 'home' studio setups...maybe other people can post up a photo of setups of some of their best photos.

I live in a small appartment and have limited space / resources (...and a fiancee who doesn't want me making a mess or rearranging the place) so it would be nice to know what others are doing to setup their photos.

Thanks...z


I've posted this before, but this was the setup for this shot

* This message has been edited by the author on 10/25/2002 10:48:17 AM.
10/25/2002 10:52:30 AM · #27
re: IV.

I'd try and reduce the bright spot on the horses nose, and bring out the eye more.

The castle is perfect, the king could use a little polish on his crown.

You might try a very subtle checker pattern somewhere, perhaps in one of the highlights.
10/25/2002 11:18:38 AM · #28
Originally posted by UberFish:
re: IV.

I'd try and reduce the bright spot on the horses nose, and bring out the eye more.

The castle is perfect, the king could use a little polish on his crown.

You might try a very subtle checker pattern somewhere, perhaps in one of the highlights.


I'm not sure i understand what you mean by checker pattern?

10/25/2002 11:32:33 AM · #29
Originally posted by jmsetzler:
Originally posted by UberFish:
[i]re: IV.

I'd try and reduce the bright spot on the horses nose, and bring out the eye more.

The castle is perfect, the king could use a little polish on his crown.

You might try a very subtle checker pattern somewhere, perhaps in one of the highlights.


I'm not sure i understand what you mean by checker pattern?

[/i]

Like a chess board ?
10/25/2002 12:42:20 PM · #30
Standing Guard V

Here's another attempt....


10/25/2002 12:54:52 PM · #31
John: I like your last posted version. Seems to me, by how I am reading this thread, that it is closer to what you have visualized.


Originally posted by magnetic9999:
How about a backlight, to accentuate the forms and give them some separation from the background, yet still retain the dark moodly overall feel of the shot?

Cool, mag! Guess I AM learning a bit... I was a'gonna suggest this same thing!
:0)



10/25/2002 01:05:14 PM · #32
John, I am a little distracted by the distinct separation of the cross on the king and the king itself (caused by shadow/highlight). Otherwise, it is a fine shot.


* This message has been edited by the author on 10/25/2002 1:03:49 PM.
10/25/2002 08:56:04 PM · #33
Originally posted by jmsetzler:
Standing Guard V

Here's another attempt....




I really like this one John - there's enough light for some definition, but all the pieces still "bleed" into one another in places. For me, in a challenge, this would definitely score high.
linda
10/25/2002 11:22:14 PM · #34
brovo
10/26/2002 12:09:47 AM · #35
Rarely is a 'blown out' over lit area well accepted. Don't you think the opposite effect, ie:overly dark areas which hide detail seperation in this case, is also true?
10/26/2002 12:12:39 AM · #36
Originally posted by David Ey:
Rarely is a 'blown out' over lit area well accepted. Don't you think the opposite effect, ie:overly dark areas which hide detail seperation in this case, is also true?

How would you improve it?
10/26/2002 12:43:27 AM · #37
I love the second pic and havn't read through all the posts
here is one I snapped tonight my girlfriend thought I should post it
they keep misspelling your name though <grin>
John's Garden?

* This message has been edited by the author on 10/26/2002 12:49:21 AM.
10/26/2002 01:00:27 AM · #38
I would think more sources of light or bounced to create better seperation of the individual pieces might be better. I do like your last attempt. I think you almost have it. Actually, my comment was more of a question to see if I was on track.
10/26/2002 08:57:00 AM · #39
John - I like the position of the lighting better. I thought after the first 2 efforts, maybe the best idea would be to trade the knight and rook to take some of the emphasis off the knight. They are the most interesting pieces on the board IMO. Upon seeing version V though, I think panning back a bit does nothing but help this shot. There's a little more headroom and I think that works to show size difference better, as much as that doesn't make any sense at all. I still prefer the blue hued pieces to the 2 newest posted versions as far as color goes. I noticed in V the pieces are perfectly lined up, which good, bad or otherwise, I personally like.

I think you got it though. I'm sure you would've gotten it anyway.
-Inspzil
10/26/2002 02:24:19 PM · #40
John... Here's an opinion... you seem to not like the shadows that hide the top of the piecies... position a soft (like a 15w halogen) light at a 45 degree angle looking downward onto the pieces. (you might have to play with the angle to get it just right.)That will given you the detail on the top and on the sides I think you are looking for.
10/27/2002 01:21:09 AM · #41
Here are two more that I have been working on... these two are just first attempts... I will work the details out but comments and critiques are appreciated :)

Imminent Danger
Line of Defense

10/27/2002 07:47:41 AM · #42
John! I really prefer these! They infer movement/action whereas the first idea just showed the pieces...
IMO, movement and action in a photo has more drama and appeal.
These are great!
10/27/2002 07:57:46 AM · #43
I agree with Karen. The DOF is great and the last two photos convey their message much much better. If you have to chose at some point, chose "Line Of Defense" and "Imminent Danger".
Btw.: I like your "professional" setup ;-)
10/27/2002 12:02:43 PM · #44
i think the first piece was sharpened too much blur it a bit with PS and see what you think, it flows better that way in my opinion
lod- not as sharp
10/27/2002 12:53:14 PM · #45
Originally posted by rll07:
i think the first piece was sharpened too much blur it a bit with PS and see what you think, it flows better that way in my opinion
lod- not as sharp


I don't like that idea as much.. the objective in that shot was to have the first pawn in perfect focus and sharpness and let the others fade out with a shallow depth of field...

10/27/2002 03:20:46 PM · #46
John, I really like "Line of Defense." The image does appear to have a bit of a "sharpening" halo around the top of the foremost pawn. Or it could just be that they are a bit dusty :)

But overall the image works quite well, and I think you have accomplished nicely the goal of holding the first pawn in focus while letting the rest fade out of focus.

As for your setup... Well, I thought I was the only one that used such creative measures. (For around the house shots I have taken to using a home-made "beanbag" to rest the camera on instead of tripod. It's made from an old sock filled with rice. It looks pretty strange, but you can get into places a tripod just wont go.)

10/27/2002 03:43:02 PM · #47
Originally posted by rll07:
i think the first piece was sharpened too much blur it a bit with PS and see what you think, it flows better that way in my opinion
lod- not as sharp


that doesnt look as clean to me either, I know your trying for a shallow DoV. I think it would look slightly better if the fade out wasnt so quick. Id try move the center of focus to between the first two pawns. then let the rest fade off. The same might be possible by dimming/softening the light coming in from the upper left. So the fronts are in a harder focus than the rear of that leading piece.
That would highlight the pawn's role in chess too. A strong front with a week backside.

Imminent Danger - I think needs to be rotated slightly 1/2 to 1/4 degree CCW. It could be that the piece isnt straight thought.

-- rowan
10/29/2002 08:05:19 PM · #48
Thanks for the critiques... I believe this one is finished:

The Final Fall

10/29/2002 08:47:48 PM · #49
Originally posted by jmsetzler:
Thanks for the critiques... I believe this one is finished:

The Final Fall



John - much prefer this one as it is, rather than the previous version
with the orange-y tint
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