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10/30/2006 06:36:30 PM · #276 |
Just a question.... I don't give 1, 2 or 3s because I just haven't seen an image that merits it for me...... and a 4 is even rare for me.... does that mean I am disrupting voting patterns because I have a different standard.... and some of the bottom scoring pictures get high votes because they appealed to me (I like OOTB)
Not trying to start ANYTHING it's an honest question. Does not have to be answered here, pm is ok. |
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10/30/2006 06:36:31 PM · #277 |
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
As long as I do this consistently,
R, |
That's the key word right there. Fair, consistent voting with no intent, but to vote on a random image.
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10/30/2006 06:38:45 PM · #278 |
Originally posted by liltritter:
Just a question.... I don't give 1, 2 or 3s because I just haven't seen an image that merits it for me...... and a 4 is even rare for me.... does that mean I am disrupting voting patterns because I have a different standard.... and some of the bottom scoring pictures get high votes because they appealed to me (I like OOTB)
Not trying to start ANYTHING it's an honest question. Does not have to be answered here, pm is ok. |
No, your pattern would be just that -- a normal pattern. You are not consistently voting the exact same photographers, and only those photographers 10s. |
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10/30/2006 06:40:10 PM · #279 |
| I get it, and that makes sense. |
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10/30/2006 06:41:50 PM · #280 |
| Ahh, I get it now. I really was starting to worry after the recent threads on voting patterns and had to ask. Thank you very much for the quick response. |
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10/30/2006 06:46:33 PM · #281 |
Originally posted by boomtap:
This might just be me not knowing anything about this, but are the 1's monitored as well. |
Even if someone cast all votes of 5 for a challenge, I would believe that this would be considered an abnormal voting pattern. I would say that if we found someone doing that -- even though an across the board vote of 5 wouldn't necessarily dramatically sway things one way or another -- they would have to answer some questions about their voting habits.
Message edited by author 2006-10-30 18:47:41. |
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10/30/2006 06:51:41 PM · #282 |
Originally posted by justamistere:
All I really suggest is for the SC to take the suggestions to heart and then to "ink". |
Note that the other 95%+ of participants apparently had no trouble understanding the rule as it stands now. |
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10/30/2006 06:54:01 PM · #283 |
Originally posted by scalvert:
Originally posted by justamistere:
All I really suggest is for the SC to take the suggestions to heart and then to "ink". |
Note that the other 95%+ of participants apparently had no trouble understanding the rule as it stands now. |
and an apparently higher percentage of general users, based on the number of "violations" we have had. |
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10/30/2006 06:55:44 PM · #284 |
Originally posted by scalvert:
Originally posted by justamistere:
All I really suggest is for the SC to take the suggestions to heart and then to "ink". |
Note that the other 95%+ of participants apparently had no trouble understanding the rule as it stands now. |
scalvert I sent you a PM. Could you check it and get back with me. Thanks
SDW |
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10/30/2006 07:27:57 PM · #285 |
Originally posted by alanfreed:
Even if someone cast all votes of 5 for a challenge, I would believe that this would be considered an abnormal voting pattern. I would say that if we found someone doing that -- even though an across the board vote of 5 wouldn't necessarily dramatically sway things one way or another -- they would have to answer some questions about their voting habits. |
I've actually done this - once. Was never asked any questions. I don't know if those votes were discarded. As I recall, I'd got so far through voting, and then realised I had no idea what the challenge actually meant - or perhaps that my interpretation of it was so wildly opposed to almost everyone else's that the only fair thing to do was vote everyone the same and get away from it.
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10/30/2006 08:27:14 PM · #286 |
Well, I'm one of the three members left in the Ninja Newbies team.
What bothers me with this is the timing. We had no time to rearrange the team. Our team has now been erased from the WPL site. I have gotten no message from any person, WLP or SC, notifying me of the situation.
This is a true mess and the case has been handled in a akward manner towards us the remaining and innocent members.
Why was the team erased?
Why was I or the other non-offending persons not contacted?
Why was this done the day before the tournament?
You all speak of justice, but funny there's no justice for us.
I will take a few weeks break from DPC and not participate in challenges because I don't feel the "fun" anymore.
Have a nice day all!
Hrannar (Hauxon) |
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10/30/2006 08:30:22 PM · #287 |
Originally posted by scalvert:
Originally posted by Bolti:
My friends ask for the same information I just got in my PM. |
I'll try, but today is my daughter's birthday and I've already spent a ton of time on this. It would be helpful if I only had to deal with those who don't accept the findings. |
So tell her that someone on DPC wishes her a happy birthday and thinks she is lucky to have a wonderful dad. |
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10/30/2006 09:09:48 PM · #288 |
Originally posted by David Ey:
.....However, I am wondering if my voting style was to give 1's to photos I dislike and 10's to photos I like..... would I be considered one trying to alter the points?....It seems to me, casting any vote at all is an attempt to alter a score.
I don't vote in this manner....other than I vote all distasteful photos a 1.......they (SC) might find there is a "moral group" out here trying to "alter the points". |
Originally posted by karmat:
It's in writing!!!!!!
Any attempts to alter the point totals in any way for any photograph will result in immediate loss of account and a ban from the site |
Have you just answered my question?
Is there a specific test one must subject a photo to before casting a vote?....or can one just not like a photo for any reason and give it a 1? It certainly appears a group has been caught voting improper but I am curious if my voting style is likely to get me called on the carpet.
Photos get a 1 from me if they are vulgar, sac-religious or clearly do not meet the challenge.
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10/30/2006 09:13:36 PM · #289 |
Originally posted by David Ey:
Have you just answered my question?
Is there a specific test one must subject a photo to before casting a vote?....or can one just not like a photo for any reason and give it a 1? It certainly appears a group has been caught voting improper but I am curious if my voting style is likely to get me called on the carpet.
Photos get a 1 from me if they are vulgar, sac-religious or clearly do not meet the challenge. |
As long as you are being consistent in voting that way you are fine... |
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10/30/2006 09:17:41 PM · #290 |
Originally posted by Hauxon:
You all speak of justice, but funny there's no justice for us.
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The timing is unfortunate. Sometimes the innocent pay the price for the people who break the rules as well. But you're a victim of your team members'actions.
Don't blame the SC or WPL admins. |
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10/30/2006 09:18:52 PM · #291 |
| The bottom line in all of this is. Anyone who remotely feels there is fairness in the current voting system needs to rethink their reality. This site has been tarnished. From this day forward it has officially become a joke. It would make a great sketch on Saturday Nite Live. Stop pussy footing around and be honest with yourselves first, and then the others. There is no credibility here. |
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10/30/2006 09:24:42 PM · #292 |
Originally posted by Ashuuter:
The bottom line in all of this is. Anyone who remotely feels there is fairness in the current voting system needs to rethink their reality. This site has been tarnished. From this day forward it has officially become a joke. It would make a great sketch on Saturday Nite Live. Stop pussy footing around and be honest with yourselves first, and then the others. There is no credibility here. |
A little over the top don't you think? It's drivel like this that brings to mind the words "little credibility." The vast majority of DPC voters are honest, and the voting statistics bear that out. Quit spouting off about about something of which you have little first-hand knowledge. Spew your venom elsewhere. |
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10/30/2006 09:25:53 PM · #293 |
Originally posted by Ashuuter:
Anyone who remotely feels there is fairness in the current voting system needs to rethink their reality. This site has been tarnished. From this day forward it has officially become a joke. |
We proved that 95% of participants played fairly even when there was the added "pressure" of a team competition. If there's any joke, it's your post suggesting 95% honesty means no credibility! |
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10/30/2006 09:30:20 PM · #294 |
Originally posted by Ashuuter:
The bottom line in all of this is. Anyone who remotely feels there is fairness in the current voting system needs to rethink their reality. This site has been tarnished. From this day forward it has officially become a joke. It would make a great sketch on Saturday Nite Live. Stop pussy footing around and be honest with yourselves first, and then the others. There is no credibility here. |
You can call me naïve but I refuse to believe that it’s that corrupt.
I may have little chance to change the minds of those that break the rules or push the limits but they have zero chance of changing me and the other 95% of the members who believe in fair play.
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10/30/2006 09:31:40 PM · #295 |
Originally posted by Ashuuter:
The bottom line in all of this is. Anyone who remotely feels there is fairness in the current voting system needs to rethink their reality. This site has been tarnished. From this day forward it has officially become a joke. It would make a great sketch on Saturday Nite Live. Stop pussy footing around and be honest with yourselves first, and then the others. There is no credibility here. |
I've been away from DPC for a while and I've found it's a healthy thing to do to get some perspective back. BUT I know I have always voted fairly and have never tried to influence the voting in any way shape or form, it's never crossed my mind. I am positive I am not the only one. The site would not be so successful if the vast majority were not honest...plus the SC do a fantastic job of making sure that it stays honest - although with people saying there is no credibility here I do wonder why they VOLUNTEER their time at all.
But this thread DOES show they are good at their job... |
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10/30/2006 09:32:58 PM · #296 |
Originally posted by Ashuuter:
There is no credibility here. |
Your average vote cast is 3.5. Thats a joke dude, you are a low baller.
So I dont think we need to go pointing fingers. |
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10/30/2006 09:43:31 PM · #297 |
Cheated. Caught. Move on.
Could someone lock this so I don't have to read this stupidity?
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10/30/2006 09:47:32 PM · #298 |
Originally posted by Nikolai1024:
Cheated. Caught. Move on.
Could someone lock this so I don't have to read this stupidity? |
put it on ignore ..
i'm kinda getting a kick how people can dig their own holes & sit in them ..
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10/30/2006 09:48:30 PM · #299 |
Originally posted by ralph:
i'm kinda getting a kick how people can dig their own holes & sit in them .. |
Sit in them? I thought they were still digging.
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10/30/2006 09:52:20 PM · #300 |
Originally posted by Hauxon:
Well, I'm one of the three members left in the Ninja Newbies team.
What bothers me with this is the timing. We had no time to rearrange the team. Our team has now been erased from the WPL site. I have gotten no message from any person, WLP or SC, notifying me of the situation.
This is a true mess and the case has been handled in a akward manner towards us the remaining and innocent members.
Why was the team erased?
Why was I or the other non-offending persons not contacted?
Why was this done the day before the tournament?
You all speak of justice, but funny there's no justice for us.
I will take a few weeks break from DPC and not participate in challenges because I don't feel the "fun" anymore.
Have a nice day all!
Hrannar (Hauxon) |
I'm sorry to say but this is a team problem not a WPL problem. Let me explain. Your team was contacted by WPL before your team members even knew they were suspended from DPC. I contacted the next person down on your teams list about your team. So it seams to me that your team did not communicate appropriately and with the magic of databases I can validate my statement.
After sending a PM asking him to contact me ASAP he begins the replies:
Database: wpluser_pm
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10/28/2006 09:49 AM
DPChallenge user has sent you the following private message:
Hi
You send me email and asked me to contact you.
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[url]//www.dpchallenge.com/message.php?USER_ID=[/url]
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10/28/2006 11:45 AM
DPChallenge user Southern Gentleman has sent you the following private message:
Yes,
I sorry to announce to you that four of the WPL voting offenders was on your team. I have removed them and banned them from the WPL for three seasons. I wanted to know if you would like to be captain of your team and I will give you this week (until Sunday of next week) to recruit three players. The top three names on your team are the ones suspended.
Thanks,
SDW
Please let me know as soon as possible.
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10/28/2006 01:15 PM
DPChallenge user has sent you the following private message:
Hi
I´m very surprised, I have speek to the top three and they have nothing heared from anybody, and are also very surprised. You are talking about four and also three, I don´t understand, can you tell me who they are ?
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10/28/2006 03:00 PM
DPChallenge user Southern Gentleman has sent you the following private message:
They should of received an email from the WPL. I will resend.
The photographers that was suspended by DPC and the WPL are:
{edit}
So I wanted to know if you would like to lead your team until their suspension is over. I need you to pick four new photographers for your team.
Thanks,
SDW
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10/28/2006 04:47 PM
DPChallenge user has sent you the following private message:
Hi
Our team will not be in because of this strange situation.
Thanks,
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10/28/2006 04:52 PM
DPChallenge user Southern Gentleman has sent you the following private message:
Hi,
So you are saying that team ninja newbies does not want to participate in the WPL3. The reason I ask is so I will know not to include the team scores.
I'm sorry about the circumstances that came up. I wish all well. Thanks for being a part of the WPL and you are welcome back at anytime. The others are welcome back as soon as the suspension is over.
Believe me this was a hard decision for me and I hope people don't think hard at me but I had Langdons information to go on.
Thanks for replying,
SDW
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No further reply after that.
-SDW
Edit to add: I know you were not one of the offenders. I just wanted to let you know that your team was informed and offered the opportunity to continue in the WPL3 with the recruitment of four new photographers.
Edit to add: Sorry about not editing the names out. I thought everyone knew who they where. I have edited the name out of the email as well.
Message edited by author 2006-10-31 01:26:42. |
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