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01/21/2003 12:48:21 PM · #26 |
It was displayed for roughly the same amount of time as this weeks 2nd place photo was.
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01/21/2003 12:52:09 PM · #27 |
When I looked if the way the dates are displayed were understandable I read over 'within the submission dates' several times (on the submission page, on the challenges page, on the rules page and on the faq page).
I was focussed on the dates, not the words.
I believe that in DPC1 both dates were specified and it confused me the way it is now, until I started to process what I was reading. English is not my native language, I am a speed reader and have a bachelor degree (almost master, but I quit and do something else now) in business economics so I am supposed to read what is says -oops didn't read that in the Enron documents, oops missed that in the contract-, but still it fooled me. None of my photo's are outside the allowed dates however.
Perhaps it would be even more clear for the submitters when the starting and end date were specifically stated on the challenge and submission pages. Your photo must be taken between january 20th 2003 and january 26th 2003. No room for reader or language error. :)
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01/21/2003 01:41:47 PM · #28 |
I'll say it again, EXIF data is not the be all and end all of making sure photos are legit. It is EASY to fake EXIF data. Take this image for example:
The EXIF info says it was taken on 15 Dec. 2002 with an Olympus E-10 camera -- among other things. The original image was shot 29 Oct. 1999 with a Sony Mavica FD-91. It has since been resized, tweaked, painted, etc etc etc etc in Photoshop and yet all the "original" EXIF data still "exists". (Unpainted version.) (PS -- Edited in later -- some of you may be crying fowl simply because the "modified" date has change. My original file still says 15 Dec. 2002 -- but the image I uploaded to my server changed that date/time...)
My two bits on the whole thing.
Note to Drew/Langdon/mods -- If you think this will give people too many ideas, I won't be offended if you think this post needs to be deleted.
Message edited by author 2003-01-21 13:44:23.
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01/21/2003 02:40:31 PM · #29 |
Ok, ok. I have it all figured out. In every image we submit we have to include somewhere in the photo the current edition of the newspaper : - ) hey it could work.
Ok then, how about this. A secret member of the site counsel will follow each person around when they are shooting their challenge photos.
Wait, I have more. We all go out in one big group when we photograph our assignments.
One more....fh..hfdj..jfj...........
T
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01/21/2003 02:44:49 PM · #30 |
Originally posted by timj351:
Ok, ok. I have it all figured out. In every image we submit we have to include somewhere in the photo the current edition of the newspaper : - ) hey it could work.
Ok then, how about this. A secret member of the site counsel will follow each person around when they are shooting their challenge photos.
Wait, I have more. We all go out in one big group when we photograph our assignments.
One more....fh..hfdj..jfj...........
T |
lol>@ >T you missed your noon pills again. :)
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01/21/2003 02:51:58 PM · #31 |
We are pretty much aware how much faith it is possible to put in EXIF data, which is why we typically look for other supporting evidence to to indicate if a picture is shot 'out of date' However, asking for unmodified originals from the camera is useful to check other forms of rule bending.
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01/21/2003 04:58:47 PM · #32 |
| Sometimes it just takes a sharp eye. Two weeks ago I realized that a photo was certainly not taken during the challenge. No it wasn't a moon photo! All I will say without being specific. If you're going to photograph someone famous make sure they are making public appearances during that or someone will call you on it. |
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01/21/2003 08:24:37 PM · #33 |
| The interesting thing about the "2nd placed" entry is that the correct date was given. Clearly this person wasn't trying to cheat, but was sloppy about reading the rules. |
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01/21/2003 08:47:03 PM · #34 |
Originally posted by drewmedia:
Originally posted by jmsetzler:
I think the ribbon winners should always be required to submit originals after the challenge is over... |
Yes, but it's pretty embarassing for us to be dq'ing/changing winners.
Drew |
Hopefully this is tongue in cheek... We don't disqualify winners, only losers. Then what was the point of the rules in the first place? |
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01/22/2003 03:04:51 PM · #35 |
Originally posted by Azrifel:
When I looked if the way the dates are displayed were understandable I read over 'within the submission dates' several times (on the submission page, on the challenges page, on the rules page and on the faq page).
I was focussed on the dates, not the words.
I believe that in DPC1 both dates were specified and it confused me the way it is now, until I started to process what I was reading. ...but still it fooled me. None of my photo's are outside the allowed dates however.
Perhaps it would be even more clear for the submitters when the starting and end date were specifically stated on the challenge and submission pages. Your photo must be taken between january 20th 2003 and january 26th 2003. No room for reader or language error. :) |
Originally posted by Gina Rothfels:
The interesting thing about the "2nd placed" entry is that the correct date was given. Clearly this person wasn't trying to cheat, but was sloppy about reading the rules. |
I agree with Azrifel!
Perhaps it would be even more clear for the submitters when the starting and end date were specifically stated on the challenge and submission pages.
Message edited by author 2003-01-22 15:08:04.
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01/22/2003 03:34:48 PM · #36 |
Originally posted by daysez:
Perhaps it would be even more clear for the submitters when the starting and end date were specifically stated on the challenge and submission pages. |
From the submission page:
Rules at a Glance
The following is a quick view of the challenge rules. These may be overriden if specified in the 'extra rules' section of the challenge.
File Format: JPEG (.jpg)
File Size: 150 kb or less.
Dimension: No dimension may be shorter than 160 pixels or longer than 640 pixels.
Exposure Date: Your photograph must be taken within the submission dates for the challenge.
No spot editing allowed.
Read the full set of challenge rules, including image modification and disqualification procedures here.
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01/22/2003 03:57:48 PM · #37 |
i know this is there, but i agree, rather than a sentence, the actual dates in the challenge description (in a format that everyone can read, with the month spelled out or abbreviated to 3 letters) would be even more obvious for new users. the way it was in the old challenge descriptions...
Originally posted by daysez:
Perhaps it would be even more clear for the submitters when the starting and end date were specifically stated on the challenge and submission pages. |
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01/22/2003 04:03:48 PM · #38 |
ClubJuggle,
Yes I have read that and this:
Challenge: Square
Type: Open Challenge
Deadline: Sunday, January 26th, 2003
Description: The main subject of your photograph should be square shaped.
And would still like to see this:
Your photo must be taken between January 20, 2003 and January 26, 2003.
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01/22/2003 04:06:18 PM · #39 |
Sorry, franziska I didnt mean to step on your toes.
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01/22/2003 04:26:58 PM · #40 |
you weren't ... i was trying to agree with you and just add my 2 cents. sorry if that didn't come across ... daysez put it in words much more elegantly than me :)
Originally posted by daysez:
Sorry, franziska I didnt mean to step on your toes. |
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01/22/2003 06:33:46 PM · #41 |
What's all this talk about EXIF data?!!?!?!?! I can hardly hold my camera straight, and you're talking stuff I have no clue about. I'd love to learn though, so please explain it to me? Where is it? How do I get to it? and ummm... ... ?
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01/22/2003 08:57:21 PM · #42 |
Originally posted by Annida:
What's all this talk about EXIF data?!!?!?!?! I can hardly hold my camera straight, and you're talking stuff I have no clue about. I'd love to learn though, so please explain it to me? Where is it? How do I get to it? and ummm... ... ? |
EXIF is a feature where most digital cameras automatically store information about your picture at the time you take it. This includes, among other things, the current date/time according to the clock in your camera, the type of camera it was taken with and various camera settings. There are links to several programs you can use to read the data in the FAQ.
-Terry
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01/22/2003 09:00:55 PM · #43 |
Originally posted by ClubJuggle:
Originally posted by Annida:
What's all this talk about EXIF data?!!?!?!?! I can hardly hold my camera straight, and you're talking stuff I have no clue about. I'd love to learn though, so please explain it to me? Where is it? How do I get to it? and ummm... ... ? |
EXIF is a feature where most digital cameras automatically store information about your picture at the time you take it. This includes, among other things, the current date/time according to the clock in your camera, the type of camera it was taken with and various camera settings. There are links to several programs you can use to read the data in the FAQ.
-Terry |
*SMOOCH* thanks *goes to read on it
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01/22/2003 09:03:49 PM · #44 |
Originally posted by Annida:
*SMOOCH* thanks *goes to read on it |
You like me! You really like me!
-Terry
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