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The Conductor of Hummer Air Orchestra
The Conductor of Hummer Air Orchestra
william88


Photograph Information Photographer's Comments
Challenge: Free Study 2010-11 (Advanced Editing VII)
Camera: Canon EOS-7D
Lens: Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS USM
Date: Nov 18, 2010
Aperture: 13
ISO: 500
Shutter: 1/250
Galleries: Macro, Birds
Date Uploaded: Nov 30, 2010

[Dec. 6th, 2010 08:53:51 PM]

The following link to a video for fun!
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Many thanks to those who vote and comment!

About the wrong DQ: I did not use any editing tool to move the hummer. Why did anyone think I need to do the complicate process when a simple approach can finish?

In the proof description, I put "rotate; crop". Why do you guys ignore that?
Disqualification Details
Cloning, dodging, burning, etc. to improve your photo or remove imperfections or minor distracting elements, etc. is acceptable. However, using any editing tools to duplicate, create, or move major elements of your photograph is not permitted.

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12/12/2010 05:47:45 PM
Originally posted by CJinCA:

So sorry about the DQ William. :-( I really don't agree with it at all as it was not a major element in the image to me, and we have all seen lots of cloning done in other images that have NOT been DQed. If the angle had been different and you had been able to crop it out, no one would be talking about what score it should receive depending on how "easy" or "difficult" it was to take the picture. Besides, I'm sure it was darn difficult to get that one! So, you can crop out a feeder and get a high score but if you clone out that feeder you get DQed - doesn't seem right some how. :-(

Regardless, excellent image and excellent PP!


Good point! and we know there is no outdoor flower in winter, and we know the only method is the feeder, and we know the feeder has been the traditional method for years. The two editing methods (crop and clone out) should have exactly the same emotional impact on the matter of "easy" or "difficult". Thank you so much for the comment!

Message edited by author 2010-12-12 17:49:20.
12/12/2010 04:35:02 PM
So sorry about the DQ William. :-( I really don't agree with it at all as it was not a major element in the image to me, and we have all seen lots of cloning done in other images that have NOT been DQed. If the angle had been different and you had been able to crop it out, no one would be talking about what score it should receive depending on how "easy" or "difficult" it was to take the picture. Besides, I'm sure it was darn difficult to get that one! So, you can crop out a feeder and get a high score but if you clone out that feeder you get DQed - doesn't seem right some how. :-(

Regardless, excellent image and excellent PP!
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12/12/2010 02:34:40 PM
So sorry for the DQ William. My take on it is that, in an effort to get everyone to play nice, DPC sets some rules that will sometimes burn people with good intentions too. We just have to accept that DPC has it's limitations and continue to enjoy what we do.

For what it's worth, this picture and the other disqualified hummer pic of yours are what I will compare every other hummer picture to from now on. And I believe setting that kind of a benchmark with your pictures is worth far more than getting a DPC ribbon for them.
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12/12/2010 01:24:02 PM
Originally posted by Mick:

Originally posted by william88:

About the wrong DQ: I did not use any editing tool to move the hummer. Why did anyone think I need to do the complicate process when a simple approach can finish?

In the proof description, I put "rotate; crop". Why do you guys ignore that?

I don't get it. According to the DQ thread your photo was disqualified for "cloning out a major element of the photo (specifically, a prominent bird feeder was cloned out of the original)." Are you saying that you didn't clone out a bird feeder, or...?

Anyway, it's a shame because it was a very nice photo.


It was the very beginning, I thought the DQ was caused by hummer which is my major element.
12/12/2010 03:01:53 AM
Originally posted by william88:

About the wrong DQ: I did not use any editing tool to move the hummer. Why did anyone think I need to do the complicate process when a simple approach can finish?

In the proof description, I put "rotate; crop". Why do you guys ignore that?

I don't get it. According to the DQ thread your photo was disqualified for "cloning out a major element of the photo (specifically, a prominent bird feeder was cloned out of the original)." Are you saying that you didn't clone out a bird feeder, or...?

Anyway, it's a shame because it was a very nice photo.

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12/11/2010 08:58:19 PM
Sorry William !!! No need to take it so hard , I did the same thing with a bird in flight shot a while back & also got DQd in a FS and it did ribbon.
Just live n Learn... FWIW a damn good shot and my benchmark for Hummer shots.
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12/11/2010 07:16:03 PM
About the wrong DQ: I did not use any editing tool to move the hummer. All I have to do is rotate and crop. Why did anyone think I need to do the complicate process when a simple approach can finish?

Really sorry about the DQ, but based on the reason given I suspect you must have done more to the image than just crop and rotate. If that was a DQ'able offence then pretty much every image on here would be DQ'd. Still a great shot.
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12/11/2010 05:01:37 PM
Damn. Really sorry William..
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12/11/2010 03:16:07 PM
Originally posted by hotpasta:

wow, you're not having much luck with these birds lately :) Hey man, sorry about the dq...I don't get it

You don't get it, but who get it? A single hummer with a background like this, why does anyone need to duplicate, create or move hummer?
12/11/2010 02:16:37 PM
wow, you're not having much luck with these birds lately :) Hey man, sorry about the dq...I don't get it
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12/11/2010 02:10:38 PM
Oh boy...

:( Sorry to hear the DQ
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12/10/2010 05:16:42 PM
Congratulations. It's a great image. I'm glad to see your hummingbirds are still giving you such great material. I love your little video clip - terrific match up to the music.
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12/10/2010 04:28:08 PM
Pretty incredible! Congratulations!
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12/10/2010 12:04:49 PM
Originally posted by dmadden:

Awesome and congrats! Wish I could see the port of voter that issued the 1 :)

I will vote yes for the wish, a geographic map for that would be great!
12/10/2010 11:24:19 AM
Superb detail! Love this! Congrats!
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12/10/2010 12:37:46 AM
Brilliant image William!!!!!
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12/10/2010 12:04:53 AM
Awesome and congrats! Wish I could see the port of voter that issued the 1 :)
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12/09/2010 02:17:46 PM
Originally posted by GeneralE:

Great capture!

I just happened to see a excellent episode of the program Nature last night, all about hummingbirds. I found links to watch the entire video, and also additional info (e.g. interview with the filmmaker) at this page.


Wow! She is right, hummingbirds are nature super heroes.
12/09/2010 09:03:58 AM
Congrats,superb shot.
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12/09/2010 07:11:14 AM
Now my 2 year old daughter thinks every DPC image can be clicked on and will move ! LOL! Very nice all around. encore!
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12/08/2010 05:10:12 PM
Great capture!

I just happened to see a excellent episode of the program Nature last night, all about hummingbirds. I found links to watch the entire video, and also additional info (e.g. interview with the filmmaker) at this page.
  Photographer found comment helpful.
12/08/2010 03:30:57 PM
Great photo. Don't think I've seen a hummer photo from this angle. The video is most enjoyable.
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12/08/2010 11:53:17 AM
Congratulations. Nice video too!
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12/08/2010 11:52:08 AM
Hey, this is great!! I love your little youtube movie.. it's adorable! Congrats on your second place win!!
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12/08/2010 09:22:16 AM
Congrats! You are really good at this hummingbird stuff.
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12/08/2010 09:10:37 AM
Just AWESOME William , Congrats my friend !!
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12/08/2010 07:24:25 AM
Love the video! Congrats on a marvelous photo and perspective.
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12/08/2010 05:08:31 AM
Not perfectly symmetrical, sorry. ;-)
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12/08/2010 01:37:26 AM
Fantastic William! Glad to see you got another ribbon for your wonderful hummingbird shot! Funny video too. :-)
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12/08/2010 01:28:56 AM
Amazing! Congratulations.
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12/08/2010 01:01:40 AM
LOL on the vid! Congrats! This was destined for a FS ribbon.
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12/08/2010 12:41:49 AM
This is just so superb, William. I am in awe. Congrats on your ribbon.
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 Comments Made During the Challenge
12/07/2010 11:19:04 PM
Amazing capture! A winner of blue for sure :)
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12/07/2010 10:52:53 PM
Wow. Just ... wow.
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12/07/2010 10:01:21 PM
What can you say, this is simply the best. I could sit and look at this for hours. I bet the full size version is something to behold. Shivers, it gives me shivers. 10+
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12/07/2010 09:25:38 PM
Stunning!
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12/07/2010 07:00:42 PM
Superb image - very original angle for this classic hummer photography - excellent work - 9!
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12/07/2010 12:41:57 AM
Un-freekin-believable. Not very technical, I know, but you do not need anything from me. This is amazing.
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12/05/2010 09:39:00 PM
The title is hilarious but the capture is most serious. Stunning work.
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12/02/2010 11:33:23 PM
Or he's the local evangelist :) Great shot.
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12/02/2010 12:29:51 PM
One of my tips for the top.
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12/02/2010 07:43:25 AM
How do you do it! This is just fantastic. Very well done!
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12/01/2010 09:03:34 PM
haha BRILLAINT! im going to guess its william, and well done on another fantastic shot!
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12/01/2010 08:31:06 PM
Extraordinary! What an incredible perspective, and the exceptional detail and color are sure to land this on the front page.
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12/01/2010 05:04:39 PM
I know of only one person for whom the humming birds gladly pose :)
Crisp, Simple, and a terrific pose. My top5. An appropriate title too - second thing that came to my mind on looking at the picture (first being a 'ballerina')
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12/01/2010 04:02:42 PM
Ohhhh... lovely details. (not voting)
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