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Challenge: Free Study 2008-04 (Advanced Editing VII)
Camera: Canon EOS-20D
Lens: Canon EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6
Location: Hesperia, Ca. Studio
Date: Apr 12, 2008
Aperture: 8
ISO: 100
Shutter: 250
Galleries: Emotive, Nude
Date Uploaded: Apr 30, 2008

No idea, just taking a chance to see how DPC responds to this.

Sitting here staring at the image, I am thinking of different ways to rig the harness. This was done on the fly without much prep, well next to no prep to tell the truth. I knew where I wanted the lights what I wanted to see, and kinda just rigged the chain to support in a painful way. Though the model really wanted the shot and I am happy she did.

I am continuing to think though, this may be the last 'serious' piece I submit to DPC. I will still submit, but it won't be anything great, or even close to ribbon worthy. Yet, it all really depends on the outcome of this image. If it tanks like everything else than I am done sharing the better of my work. However, if by some unexplained event, some amazing stroke of timing and the DPC voters open their minds and I do well, Well as in Ribbon... I may just try a bit harder next time.

After a hundred and some odd challenges, with an average less than 5.0 there really isn't a point to share the betterment of my work here for the masses do not appreciate it.

I believe that a most recent comment on a previous challenge entry just really set it all home to me. "this is just really not a good photo. There's nothing that appeals to me here. " To me, regardless of the appeal of a photography it does not change if it is good or not. I have seen some amazing photography that 'does not appeal' to me but doesn't make it not good. This type of closed mindedness (IMO) is what makes being an artist so difficult. To many people with narrow views and who want to force their views on others.

I try my best not to force views on others, I my try to widen your options, though ultimately it is up to the viewer to make the call. The viewer has, and my past few years here it has become apparent to my place.

A appreciate all of those whom took the time to help me, and give me positive comments and energy and stuff, thank you very much. The few of you are truly gold.

Tonight voting starts, and we will see how this comes to be.

Place: 7 out of 468
Avg (all users): 6.8750
Avg (commenters): 8.6667
Avg (participants): 6.8381
Avg (non-participants): 6.9744
Views since voting: 8148
Views during voting: 335
Votes: 144
Comments: 39
Favorites: 15 (view)

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05/18/2011 05:35:26 PM
This is one of my favorite shots you took, I also like a few others from this set. RIP, I hope to create something similar one day.
03/04/2011 06:29:28 PM
Anyone who can pull off a shot like this, I believe, has an immense wealth of inherent talent. You've obviously worked hard with all your submissions and particularly with this one, the your passion shows. Submitting work, and having in the back of your mind the thought of 'conforming to the DPC herd' is always going to be part of it. Submitting because you are proud of your work, even the tiniest part of it, is all that is needed to carry on. Life will get in the way, there are always those that will cast a flippant comment, but if you look at the actual flippant comments for a genuine critique, 99% of the time they are baseless. Keep going, it may well be worth it, even if it's not here, look at your work again from another view, imagine it in a book, or part of a series in an exhibition, or as a body of work you would give as a gift to someone. Thanks for your contributions, rave over ;)
12/24/2009 03:05:07 PM
This photograph participated way before my time here but this shouldn't stop me from leaving a comment.
I have only 1 word for this: A M A Z I N G.
I really hope you will continue with this kind of work and share it with us.
7th place out of 464, this should tell you something...
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05/09/2008 11:45:38 AM
Congrats on the top 10 placement and a new personal best.
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05/08/2008 10:23:13 PM
Artists either shoot/paint/write what they love and say to hell with the reviews and critics, or they edit and shoe-horn their work into the mainstream, possibly at the expense of pride. You have a rare talent that some people simply don't "get" (pun unintended.) Really hope you see this as a breakthrough, because your work is outstanding, imo.
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05/08/2008 02:03:21 PM
I have been fascinated with your work for a few months. I don't necessarily care for most of it, but you do nice work and I like what you have been doing recently. I absolutlely love this one! I agree that you could do a whole series on this. Outstanding!

Great art will get a response from the viewer either bad or good. Don't be discouraged.

Message edited by author 2008-05-08 14:09:06.
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05/08/2008 12:14:32 PM
To me, this is the best photograph that I have seen in your port or challenges. I find this to be outstanding, (bar the greenlight bit that I talked about earlier) This to me should have scored higher. You could do a series on just the chains in this shot with different poses. I am impressed and I love this shot, well done on such a high score and top 10
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05/08/2008 11:00:20 AM
I think this is a great photo. It looks painful to be strung up in the chains that way. Your lighting is spot on and love the way it illuminates the curves in her body. You definately put a different spin on nudes!

Congrats on your PB!
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05/08/2008 10:04:15 AM
Fantastic, Andrew! Really well done. Congrats on the huge score, top 10 and new PB!
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05/08/2008 08:44:26 AM
I read your comments and completely understand. I am not interested in nudes but you have done this one tastefully if not painful looking. I like the lighting very much. If I had voted in this challenge I would have given it a very high score. Well done.
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05/08/2008 06:49:56 AM
Congrats on the PB & the Top 10! If that doesn't convince you to keep 'em coming, I don't know what will ;O)
I love the lighting, the comp, the pose... pretty much everything. Well done Andrew!
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05/08/2008 05:50:40 AM
this is one awesome piece of art! please don't stop submittin, cus you've got a style and that's what matters most.
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05/08/2008 03:16:30 AM
Congrats on your top 10 finish and new PB. Amazing work. Don't stop it.
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05/08/2008 02:25:04 AM

This is totally awesome, and rich an amazing image, re detail, idea, composition, lighting and color.....

You have excelled, and this my friend deserved a ribbon IMO..........
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05/08/2008 02:17:18 AM
Congrats on a fine finish! I find this photo totally amazing and my hat is off to you. Forget the ignoramuses who feel that leaving a critique must mean you have to tear a photo apart, look for the smallest little thing to complain about, etc. Bottom line is you are the judge of your own work, you know what is good, you know what it took to take the photo, you know the vision you had. To bring that to fruition, that is accomplishment.

I could go on and on... but suffice it to say you have a winner here!
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05/08/2008 01:52:51 AM
Hey, how's top 10 in a friggin' free study strike you? :)
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05/08/2008 01:41:57 AM
Awesome - congrats on top 10 finish! Amazing shot.

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05/08/2008 01:09:45 AM
I love it, even after multiple views.
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05/08/2008 12:55:32 AM
Congrats on your top 10 finish Andrew, and in a Free Study no less! Great photo!

Ignore the comments and keep doing what you do... you're very talented!

Message edited by author 2008-05-08 00:58:37.
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05/08/2008 12:52:12 AM
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05/08/2008 12:14:25 AM
Well, it didn't ribbon, but I think coming in at #7 in a freestudy should convince you that your stuff is appreciated. I read your very interesting comments that go along with this. Even if something is not personally appealing to some, it is still possible for many to identify if it is a good photo or not. (Hope that was not my comment you quoted, but that does not sound like me!)
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05/08/2008 12:11:19 AM
personal best and top 10! congrats... i know its not a ribbon but thats tough to do in a free study, I hope this convinces you to stay in it and disregard the people that can't look deeper - we all suffer from people of that mindset at times for sure.
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 Comments Made During the Challenge
05/07/2008 06:24:10 PM
Very professional...reat set up, wonderful lighting. Should be a ribbon.
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05/07/2008 04:55:40 PM
This one leaves me speechless which is always a good sign.
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05/07/2008 12:40:27 AM
Awesome lighting.........
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05/06/2008 09:49:41 AM
very good but i dont like it 8
05/05/2008 10:00:39 AM
I really like the composition and lighting in this photograph, but the green hair is very disruptive because it stands out the most.
05/03/2008 04:36:18 PM
OMG what an image! Your lighting and detail are about as perfect as it goes, you can even see her thumb ring. I'm amazed women can do these types of creative feats. Unique capture!
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05/02/2008 11:31:59 PM
This is cool. Could be an album cover or something similar. I'm curious about the purpose or inspiration for this scene.
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05/02/2008 05:19:48 PM
This is the free study, not the chained up challenge... Great lighting and the model went above and beyond on this one. Good job.
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05/02/2008 12:59:45 PM
YES this is awesome,
and how did you get the materials to set this shot up, hope you filled the photographers comments out with how you did it
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05/02/2008 08:52:21 AM
Well, this image certainly stands out from the crowd. The high contrast coloured lighting is a little bit much for me, and the composition is trying to be centred, but doesn't quite make it with the misaligned chain. Great setup, and certainly has promise for a fantastic image though.
05/02/2008 12:29:42 AM
I see that someone got very creative for this challenge
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05/01/2008 07:30:43 PM
Excellent shot. Don't know that I like the green hair but that would be my only compaint.
05/01/2008 04:55:06 PM
Love the shadows and the form. Not too sue about the green on the hair.
05/01/2008 04:24:20 PM
That's gotta hurt.
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05/01/2008 02:50:04 PM
very nicely done, 10, maybe have the hair a little muted so that it flows with the rest of the shot, but this is what FS are all about, and you have a shot here that is completely different from anyone elses, outstanding.
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05/01/2008 10:53:40 AM
Wow great production! not sure if I like the green though.
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05/01/2008 10:53:15 AM
Love your originality! Can't say i've seen the pose done before, but its brilliant! Personally I would have stuck with 1 lighting 'warmth' (not really sure what to call it?), but I don't think its a massive problem here at all. It certainly emphasises the 'up/down' element, which I think works very well considering your model is suspended in the air! Can't wait to read the comments on this one, well done indeed for what in my opinion is one of the most original shots in the challenge!
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