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Whispers of Gold
Whispers of Gold
SandyP


Photograph Information Photographer's Comments
Challenge: Pastels (Advanced Editing IV)
Collection:
Camera: Canon EOS-20D
Lens: Canon EF 70-300mm f/4.5-5.6 DO IS USM
Location: San Antonio Zoo (where else?) :)
Date: Aug 29, 2006
Aperture: 5.6
ISO: 400
Shutter: 1/80
Galleries: Animals
Date Uploaded: Aug 29, 2006

I know. . .another bird. But they are just so darn photogenic! This one was so accommodating to pose for me exactly as I had envisioned the photo in my mind.

I processed my raw file twice. I actually never thought to do that until I noticed how SCalvert described doing that on his Magic photo. I processed it once to make the background black (but I still had to burn a little here and there), and once for the bird, then very carefully brushed through a layer mask so the bird showed thru all soft and pretty. I tried a glowing portrait action on it to see if I could soften his feathers up, and sure enough I like how it turned out. Hopefuly I'm not the only one who likes how it turned out :)
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I'm heartbroken that I lost my ribbon. I saw that a site council member had processed a winning photo twice, so I knew that was okay. And I had used the technique of increasing the shadows to darken the background before on a validated image, so I knew that technique was okay. But I guess you can't use those 2 techniques together.

I'm really sad, but wiser I guess.
Disqualification Details
Cloning, dodging, burning, etc. to improve your photo or remove imperfections or minor distracting elements, etc. is acceptable. However, using any editing tools to duplicate, create, or move major elements of your photograph is not permitted.

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Views during voting: 327
Comments: 104
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09/07/2007 06:18:55 PM
Same thing happened to me Sandy...I have a little of the background still showing on mine and there is much less background than this...this is still amazingly beautiful
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11/04/2006 02:20:37 AM
What a great photo!!!!!
I have read your comments on the DQ but still cannot understand why...
It does seem that there are some rather dubious interpretations made of rules when judging comes around, maybe its time for a better guideline for them to be published.
Anyway this is a shot that you have every reason to be proud of...Congratulations
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10/08/2006 01:12:54 AM
Oh, Sandy. I just found this while looking to see how you did on Free Study XIII.

I don't understand the DQ - was there a lot of detail in the background?

This is a stunning shot, and one of which you should be proud. I think the incredible number of supportive comments, including this one, and 19 (!) favorites, including mine, tell you that.
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10/03/2006 09:04:57 AM
Sandy, I never realised that this was dqed till I looked at your portfolio...I am not sure I understand what you did that dqed you, but this is an amazing image...soft and delicate, perfect for the challenge
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09/15/2006 04:38:56 PM
Sandy, This is again a winner in every way. Too bad the rules are enforced diffently over time and so hard to understand. You did great and it's still a winner! Well done.
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09/13/2006 04:45:58 PM
I love your image Sandy and I am sorry for the DQ.
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09/13/2006 01:44:14 PM
I was disappointed when I saw your photo was DQ, it's an excellent shot which I like very much. I am sure you will get more ribbons soon. Keep up the good work Sandy.
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09/13/2006 12:55:52 AM
Sandy, It's good to see so many of your DPC friends offering their condolences for the loss of your ribbon. The Site Counsel might be able to take away your well deserved ribbon, but they can not take away the prize capture you shot. Like Daniel said, the image is strong enough to stand on it's own.

You stand in the same group as one of the top photographers in DPC. There will be a lot more ribbons coming your way. Keep up your excellent work. Everybody here knows you are a winner and that you produce award winning photographs.
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09/13/2006 12:29:31 AM
If it helps you feel better I've had this image as my desktop image at work since Monday.
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09/12/2006 10:02:03 PM
This truly hurts! Chalk it up to experience. But what a lovely image and I am still at a loss as to why it got DQued. This is why sometime back I pressed hard on this issue: that is you you work hard to process an image and then the whole effort falls victim to a dq. Regardless, you have my condolence for your loss. The image is strong enough to stand on its own as a fine study.

Now, is the dq because of the obliteration of the backgound to pure black? If I understand you, you produced two versions from the raw. One was darkened and then laid over the first to erased all other info except the bird. No reason for a dq unless all background info was made black.
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09/12/2006 05:26:48 PM
Still a great shot and one for your portfolio..which is worth a hundred ribbons :-D

Actually...could you go into greater detail how you processed this photo..perhaps showing us the original and then taking us through the steps.

The reason is your result is truly great and I would like to learn something.

I would ask you to email me all that but I think lots of people might learn something too.

Thanks!
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09/12/2006 04:44:27 PM
That is what this site is about. Learning.
Congratulations on a great picture.
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09/12/2006 03:54:10 PM
you was screwed...nice photo

Message edited by author 2006-09-12 15:54:39.
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09/12/2006 12:13:01 PM
Your experience has given me a valuable lesson too...
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09/12/2006 12:07:28 PM
Major bummer on the DQ Sandy, but it's still a fantastic shot. I just started shooting in RAW this week, and I can see how this would be a grey area in my mind. I had a DQ for similar reasons (at least one of the reasons was for removing the BG), so I know how it hurts. Hang in there and keep on creating these beautiful images!
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09/12/2006 11:35:01 AM
very nice photo!
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09/12/2006 11:34:53 AM
My very first entry wa DQ'ed because when I cropped it, it left thin line on one side. (In those days frames were not allowed.) And it really stung.

As one who has never won a ribbon, I know this really had to hurt. Take heart in the fact that you did create a beautiful photo that is much admired. And who knows, perhaps this technique will be allowed in the future.
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09/12/2006 10:58:46 AM
Beautiful entry and the ribbon remains in our minds eye, regardless of the dq; thanks for your lovely photographic eye Sandy.
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09/12/2006 10:39:32 AM
Great image, regardless of the this Challenge, you should be proud.
Excellent.
Byron Gates, Jr.
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09/12/2006 10:12:32 AM
Lovely image.
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09/12/2006 09:32:15 AM
Major bummer. I don't get the rules all the time either (I've got my own DQ), and I can imagine doing the same thing myself.

No matter what, that is a beautiful shot, and your processing notes are very useful. Thanks for sharing.
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09/12/2006 09:21:42 AM
Don't be sad sandy. You still got the ribbon. You just got DQ'd on a technicality. Nothing to worry about. It doesn't lessen the achievement or the picture one little bit.
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09/12/2006 09:01:29 AM
Oh my, so sorry about the DQ. But it is still a stunning image and you did get the votes for the ribbon. Keep your chin up and the camera in front of your eye - another ribbon coming soon!
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09/12/2006 08:43:43 AM
Sandy, I am so sorry. I love this image and I still think it is amazing and beautiful.
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09/12/2006 08:30:26 AM
Hi Sandy, I can believe you're heartbroken, I'm sorry this has happened to you. Your image was and still is beautiful so keep your chin up, girl.
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09/12/2006 08:26:25 AM
I don't really get the "yes" and "no" rules sometimes, but you know that the voters loved it plus YOU loved, so really that's all that matters.
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09/12/2006 08:17:56 AM
So disappointed on the DQ - probably not as much as you are. BUT...the photo is still an excellent shot and you should be happy.
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09/12/2006 08:14:09 AM
that really is to bad .. can we see the orig to see what was croped ?
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09/12/2006 08:08:09 AM
Sad to see you here Sandy,, Keep Smiling
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09/12/2006 08:03:42 AM
:( So sorry to see your beautiful shot DQ Sandy.......this really is an image to be so proud of. *hugs*
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09/12/2006 07:32:19 AM
Still an amazing shot. Sorry to see the DQ. A shame - a dirty rotten shame!
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09/12/2006 07:01:44 AM
very sorry to hear about your DQ...wonderful work is still wonderful work, and nobody will ever question your integrity....but still, I am sure it just feels wrong...wish for you it wasn't so...
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09/12/2006 06:40:36 AM
This is indeed a sad, sad day, as this was an exceptional image, and so saddned to see you have a DQ's, what a shame, and I feel for you right now, and always will dear Sandy.

Message edited by author 2006-09-12 06:42:14.
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09/12/2006 06:22:08 AM
Sandy - this is an awesome shot. Sorry about the dq -
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09/12/2006 05:59:44 AM
:(
So sad to see your shot DQ'd.
*hug*
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09/11/2006 09:58:41 PM
Fabulous image!

Question though: what is a "glowing portrait action"? Is that in Photoshop CS?
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09/11/2006 09:14:55 PM
This is such a SandyP Shot!!! Awesome
Congrats on the ribbon!!!
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09/11/2006 08:39:24 PM
Sandy, loved this!! Congrats on your ribbon!
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09/11/2006 08:29:04 PM
Wow, such a stunning picture Sandy. Congrats on your ribbon, very well done... Love the bird and processing :o)
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09/11/2006 08:28:36 PM
Beautiful Sandy congrats on the yellow.
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09/11/2006 08:09:23 PM
I didn't even get to look at this challenge and vote, but this is absolutely exquisite!

Congrats on your ribbon, it is well deserved!
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09/11/2006 06:07:14 PM
Yeah congrats on your 3rd ribbon Sandy-- ::))
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09/11/2006 04:24:28 PM
Beautiful image Congrats this is just lovely
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09/11/2006 03:52:24 PM
Congratulations Sandy! Beautiful photo - love the soft tones and focus.
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09/11/2006 02:51:38 PM
Congratulations Sandy on the yellow ribbon! This is a beautiful shot.
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09/11/2006 02:45:41 PM
Conratulations Sandy!The flamingo's eye pulls the viewer right into this pastel stuy.
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09/11/2006 02:35:42 PM
Don't be surprised with the results ! It's an excellent photo , with natural pastel tones.
The composition , lighting and your touch of magic (= a good edition) are very good.
I'm very happy for you my friend.
As always , all the best !
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09/11/2006 01:46:53 PM
Congratulations Sandy!!!
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09/11/2006 01:27:18 PM
Awesome shot Sandy, and Congratulations on another well deserved ribbon
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09/11/2006 12:21:26 PM
The beauty of this shot, besides the obvious beauty of the bird, is that it looks like a photo you would produce - soft, great color and aesthetically pleasing. Very good work with this!
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09/11/2006 12:21:00 PM
Sandy!! Way to go! I agree 100% with PhantomEWO - this is expected and it´s wonderful. Sooo glad you entered. The colors are gorgeous. I love the sneaky looking expression on the bird. This is just beautiful.
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09/11/2006 11:38:02 AM
Stunning!!! The color is just beautiful! Congrats on the yellow!!
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09/11/2006 11:37:57 AM
Sandy, what a wonderful picture!! Congratulations on your 3rd place!!!
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09/11/2006 10:59:24 AM
Congratulations. Nice exotic subject and quality phtoography work well together ;-)
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09/11/2006 10:22:54 AM
well done Sandy, a beautiful shot, great colouring ;-)
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09/11/2006 10:17:56 AM
OMG OMG!!! you are doing great Sandy. Beautiful pastel entry. Congrats!!
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09/11/2006 09:45:18 AM
WOW! So very expected. You are a winner in everything ... and your photos are great too!!
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09/11/2006 09:27:22 AM
You are so good Sandy, love your photos, Way to go!!!!
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09/11/2006 08:51:20 AM
Just stunning Sandy... congratulations on your ribbon!
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09/11/2006 08:47:44 AM
This is a stunningly beautiful image. THank you soooo much for posting your processing steps. I was very curious. I would like to try it for myself.
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09/11/2006 08:25:21 AM
Woo hoo! You are rockin' and rollin'. Beautiful image.
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09/11/2006 08:20:02 AM
See...what did I tell you!
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09/11/2006 07:22:32 AM
you go girl!!!! very proud of you :-) congrats
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09/11/2006 07:00:45 AM
Congrats! Great shot, beautiful details.
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09/11/2006 06:16:46 AM
Congratulations Sandy! Wonderful picture - great composition, excellent coloring, beautiful subject. The processing lets enough detail come through while keeping a nice soft feel. Very well done Sandy!
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09/11/2006 06:16:20 AM
Sandy! YOU DO ROCK! Congratulations on another Ribbon with this gorgeous shot! Way to go!!!
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09/11/2006 05:58:39 AM
Wooooooo Hoooooooooo -congratulations Sandy!! I knew this was a winner!!!

Message edited by author 2006-09-11 17:22:45.
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09/11/2006 03:14:02 AM
Great Shot Sany and a deserved top 3 finish
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09/11/2006 02:52:10 AM
You broke the curse of 4th place! Woohoo!
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09/11/2006 02:33:28 AM
Beuatiful shot Sandy. I take a pic of these guys every week we are at the zoo and I can only wish to come out with one as nice as this (I am still wishing). Great shot and congrats on another ribbon.
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09/11/2006 02:24:32 AM
sandy you little biscuit! congratulations.
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09/11/2006 01:56:18 AM
Congrats Sandy!
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09/11/2006 01:50:46 AM
burdy
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09/11/2006 01:04:55 AM
Congrats on your 3rd place with this very nice shot Sandy and don't worry I can't stop taking bird shots either :~)
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09/11/2006 12:54:37 AM
Sandy: this capture is truly the essence of pastels. Congratulations on your Yellow!

Message edited by author 2006-09-11 01:09:12.
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09/11/2006 12:52:45 AM
You rock! :)
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09/11/2006 12:36:55 AM
Yes, my friend......Yes, I am so excited for you and my C.O.N.G.R.A.T.U.L.A.T.I.O.N.S. to you, for this "Yellow" ribbon, and you are nearly always so close, and nearly always on the front page. You can see you love what you do, and that is what matters.
Also adding it to my favorites as well.....

Message edited by author 2006-09-11 00:46:04.
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09/11/2006 12:36:49 AM
Hi Sandy, you did a great job here. Congratulations on the yellow ribbon with this beautiful shot.
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09/11/2006 12:35:14 AM
Woo-Hoo Sandy!!!! Another ribbon for you! Congratulations!! Personal opinion, you should have received the Blue for this shot!
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09/11/2006 12:35:06 AM
Congrats Sandy!!!!!! WOO HOO
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09/11/2006 12:33:57 AM
Congrats on another ribbon, Sandy!
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09/11/2006 12:33:37 AM
Great finish and a well deserved Ribbon.
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 Comments Made During the Challenge
09/10/2006 04:01:11 PM
Beautiful photograph! Excellent lighting and use of pastel. I love the black background!
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09/10/2006 10:57:56 AM
I love this, it's just perfect for the challenge and a really great image.
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09/10/2006 12:59:26 AM
I like the square crop and the pose you captured.
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09/09/2006 08:20:30 PM
very nice--I really like the composition.
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09/09/2006 08:41:33 AM
Beautiful. I would love to know how you got the black background with this bird. Nice lighting. Well done.
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09/07/2006 03:01:59 PM
Beautiful colouring and lighting. 9.
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09/07/2006 01:54:22 PM
WOW!!! This is by far the best flamingo picture I have ever seen!! This is beautiful! I also think I am looking at a ribbon winner here! Great Job in composition and your edits. Good luck! Oh yeah - 10
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09/07/2006 12:06:57 PM
sooooo beautiful 10
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09/06/2006 09:50:45 PM
I really like this shot. Well done and meets the challenge well, too!
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09/06/2006 06:40:47 PM
Very likely a ribbon candidate. The softness of colour and the composition are spot on. Great work! 10
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09/05/2006 08:35:46 PM
Beautiful color, peach rather than pink!
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09/05/2006 12:25:21 PM
Gorgeous! (Deleting my flamingo pic now, lol) 9
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09/05/2006 10:24:40 AM
Bump
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09/05/2006 08:34:38 AM
Shhh...I think your photo is a ribbon winner. Sorry, don't have anything helpful to provide other then a score of 10.
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09/04/2006 09:27:59 PM
What an incredible image! This soft salmon color is absolutely gorgeous against the black background. I love how this flamingo is looking right at you and how stunning your use of lighting is. Great Job!!
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09/04/2006 03:43:56 PM
Beautiful colour, nice composition.
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09/04/2006 02:49:00 PM
Beautiful! The solid black background really works to enhance this shot - love the details in the texture.
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09/04/2006 10:30:28 AM
beautiful glow
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09/04/2006 07:33:45 AM
Very soft and delicate, re the feathers of this magestic bird. I just love the pastels colors, just stunning.....
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09/04/2006 04:25:16 AM
nice image
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09/04/2006 04:06:57 AM
This is just great i love the colours I cant criticise this ...10
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09/04/2006 12:40:45 AM
This jumped off the page at me, like the pastel on the bird,and is well taken, and sharp as a tak, not a fan of black, the crop is great.
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