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Through a Glass Darkly
Through a Glass Darkly
xianart

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Challenge: Window Framed (Advanced Editing IV)
Camera: Canon EOS-20D
Lens: Canon EF-S 17-85mm f/4-5.6 IS USM
Location: Nova Scotia, Canada
Date: Apr 23, 2006
Aperture: f7.1
ISO: 400
Shutter: 1/100
Galleries: Emotive, Nude
Date Uploaded: Apr 23, 2006

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It's bloody cold running around the yard in the nudd.

Photoshopping:
Lens Correction
Crop
USM
Levels
Select (3x)
Hue Sat (4x)
Bright/contrast
Burn
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thanks for all the wonderful and helpful comments - it's nice to get constructive criticism too. the lower left pane has no glass in it.

i nearly didn't submit this. when i stopped fiddling with it, i steped back back and went - o my god, this is too over the top. mentally i'm still very much a straightforward street photographer - weegee etc. so all this post processing still seems a bit too much for me.

but, i think i like it...;-)

Statistics
Place: 35 out of 180
Avg (all users): 6.1255
Avg (commenters): 7.2973
Avg (participants): 5.7889
Avg (non-participants): 6.3185
Views since voting: 5524
Views during voting: 523
Votes: 247
Comments: 50
Favorites: 20 (view)


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12/08/2006 07:31:04 AM
I understand your feeling with the new post process era, but it has good points and bad points I guess. In this case your artistic taste, and coordination make it a lovely image. A couple of things I like about the photo are the colors, and creativity. I love the colors you set in, and the imagination hits overdrive when I look at it. There is another thing about this photo I can't quite explain. Its the ability to hold my eyes, when I pass over seeing it tends to hold my eyes, I want to study it, look at it, learn more about it. Maybe just me, but I welcome it, and I thank you for posting.
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10/19/2006 12:17:49 AM
awesome image! do more like this!
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10/16/2006 12:56:48 AM
Very artistic! Love it! It made me stop scrolling and contemplate for a moment. I didn’t vote in this challenge but I would give it 10. The picture goes to my favorites.
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05/11/2006 07:13:29 AM
From the CTP MkII

First Impression: God, the PP on this shot f-ing rocks. But guess what? The title f-ing rocked more! I don't know if you got it from the bible (1Cor 13:12) or from the movie (SÃ¥som i en spegel) or wherever, but such photos with such titles make my day. 10. No, 11.;p
Composition: Minus minor nitpicks, I would have it no other way. 9.
Subject: Hey, I just realized I'm not too wild about those boots... damn. I think I would've liked it better with naked feet. Eh, whatever... it still rocks. 8.
Technical: Spot on exposure, IMO. Blown-out window borders worked for me. 8.
Improvement: Remove those goddamned boots! Hehe. Besides that, nothing from me.
Summary: How do you youngsters say it again? I heart this photo -- is that about right? Good work, man. Congrats on the top 40 and the PB.

Disclaimer: The following crits are personal opinions, not photographic dogmas. Please see them as suggestions, not claims of mastery nor a show of hauteur.;p

P.S. Please pardon the f-word. It just occured to me that it might be offensive to some people. Can't help it. Sorry in advance.

Message edited by frisca - language.
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05/08/2006 03:19:11 PM
Comment from a member of your own commenting club :-)
I love this picture. I voted "9".
What is good in it?:
1. It is mystical. Lets the Viewer speculate on how it is possible to have reflections from the outside while taking picture out through the window.
2. This could also be a book cover for a story of a girl that has been abused in some way.
3. The colours are great.
4. The first comment you got on this picture: "To me it crosses the threshold from DP to Digital Art." For me Advanced editing is exacly that, Digital Art and it is great in that way.
5. Good haircut :-)
6. To make all the editing worth wile you show one window (without glass) almost without editing. Makes this picture work.
What could have been done better?:
1. Dunno
2. There is no nr. 2.

Message edited by author 2006-05-10 20:25:41.
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05/07/2006 06:08:12 PM
Greetings from your own critique club.

First Impression
Nice shot, but be bit artsy for some crowd on DPC.
Composition:
Very good composition. Nice tight crop.
Subject:
As I said it may be little bit artsy for some DPCers, I am affraid I am one of them.
Technical (Colour and light):
The color and lighting is perfect. It's too much overprocessed for my taste.
Improvement:
In order to score high on DPC, majority of the crowd need to be pleased. I have a feeling that it scored bit low due that fact.
Summary:
Meets the challenge criteria, but I did not like the PP.

Congrates on your Personal Best.

Message edited by author 2006-05-08 07:13:41.
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05/06/2006 05:00:23 PM
::: Critique Club :::

Hi, my name is Kari and from the critique club.

First Impression - the most important one:
I love your first statement ... yup cold nudd .. and all that ... I though during voting that this was great .. and now am shown and hopefully you are that it was a fantastic idea and you pulled it off.

Composition:
I really like how you have utilised the window to make the four componants of the picture. With each of the componants having their own piece of the puzzle ... this creates a wonderful illusion.

Subject:
Meets and exceeds the challenge.

Technical (Colour and light):
the colour is good .. the lighting is well done ... I think the frame utilisaion works well. The comments you have recieved sum up other thoughts.

To grow its vote?:
Well this is interesting question ... this sort of shot works for some but not all .. but that can be said of ALL photos which are processed. I don't get the ones and twos ... but hey there are only three of them ... I think we call them trolls ... and then the anti art people will come in ... technically a good shot .. I think you choose the right panal to be clear ... Personally I think that this is great.

Summary:
Love it .. keep it up .. can't wait to see more. Does this pave the way for an exit from team suck????

If you've got any questions about this critique, please feel free to contact me via the PM system.

Cheers

Kari
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05/04/2006 07:28:08 AM
This shot speaks to me, with the 4th "normal" section and its content. What *I* take from it is that, despite all of our creativity, talent, yearnings, despairing, we all still have to put our boots on and wade in the muck of everyday reality.
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05/02/2006 01:27:38 PM
Interesting processing. I like the single frame left 'normal'. It gives the whole thing a bit of a twist. Each frame looks slightly different, slightly disjointed. I like that, too.
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05/02/2006 07:21:04 AM
This is a much better photograph than your placing indicates... Really nice work.....
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 Comments Made During the Challenge
04/30/2006 11:38:35 PM
excellent! 10!
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04/30/2006 07:57:41 PM
Really cool shot! Nice work.
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04/30/2006 12:10:11 PM
I do like the effects used and the creativity... however, I think I would have prefered seeing the effect on all the panes of glass..
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04/30/2006 12:07:30 PM
I love the rawness of this photo! I will be thouroghly surprised if this is not top 2.
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04/30/2006 11:00:57 AM
Sorry but the post processing isn´t appealing to me at all, way to extravagant on three of the four portions... 3 from me.
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04/30/2006 09:18:03 AM
I'm not a big fan of the grunge look. The single frame not being treated seems strange. My guess is you will have a lot of 10's and a lot of low scores on this. Mine will be a 6.
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04/29/2006 11:44:42 PM
I take it the pane of glass is missing from the lower left? Very artistic!
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04/29/2006 11:05:51 PM
hrmm..interesting, but overprocessed for a large audience to enjoy -- this type of 'art' really speaks to a select few. While I enjoy shots like this, they will probably never be up there here anyway.
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04/29/2006 08:23:43 PM
really nice combination of reflections and open areas
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04/29/2006 04:38:06 PM
strangely mismatched effects in different panes.
kinda grows on you though.
good luck
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04/29/2006 04:21:15 PM
inventive. One of my favorites. - 8
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04/29/2006 02:14:50 PM
wow! love the post processing here. so sad and lonely and gritty ;) Good luck!
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04/29/2006 10:58:38 AM
Lovely effect, very well done.
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04/29/2006 10:04:11 AM
Very dark, almost disturbing! Is one of the panes of glass broken? Anyway I like it, Good luck.
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04/29/2006 08:00:18 AM
To much filters or edition for me in this challenge but looks great just if it was in your portfolio. :)
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04/29/2006 07:25:02 AM
I like the post editing
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04/29/2006 03:28:14 AM
A little bit too confusing.
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04/28/2006 10:15:24 PM
don't care for the lower left pane..should have used the filters on all of it IMHO
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04/28/2006 08:43:41 PM
Seems heavily processed.
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04/28/2006 04:53:10 PM
Nice artistic look
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04/28/2006 06:43:47 AM
I'll bet the DPC voting public don't get this - and your score will be drastically under where this kind of creativy should put it - I hope I'm wrong -

I think this is really cool, a great image, and very creative take on the challenge. The glassless pane being upper right to reveal the head would make it stronger, but I still really like this. (8)
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04/27/2006 07:28:58 AM
amazing mood and grittiness...love this...this is fantastic...hope it does well for you
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04/26/2006 09:51:41 PM
I LOVE this...
this is ART..adding to favs..
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04/26/2006 03:27:24 PM
the framing & reflections are really nice. the colors are a bit off I think, but you've managed to make them fit perfectly with the atmosphere your subject creates this way. 8
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04/25/2006 10:51:41 PM
I really like this, hope this is top 3... 10
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04/25/2006 06:12:44 PM
I like how you have left one pane unaltered, very nice work.
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04/25/2006 05:47:12 PM
Really like this one for some reason! really appealing, good job! lol, someone actually recomended you for a dq? lol, probably just didn't notice that it was advance editing
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04/25/2006 02:39:26 PM
Very artistic interpretation of the challenge theme. I like the emotive quality here and the different elements you've incorporated... my vote is a 7
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04/25/2006 11:01:48 AM
Great shot. Cool colors and post processing. Hope this does well.
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04/25/2006 09:23:58 AM
Really cool and artsy take on this challenge. Very nice photograph!
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04/25/2006 02:17:08 AM
Very clever.....
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04/24/2006 11:41:32 PM
nice...love what you have done here!!! 10
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04/24/2006 07:14:44 PM
Hmmm...I'm not sure what to think on this one. It has an interesting moody feeling to it. I like how you have the one unaltered pane.
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04/24/2006 05:02:17 PM
Cool I'm loving it, you know if we do digtal why not p-shop it. Nice set up good use of color and light.
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04/24/2006 11:21:11 AM
VERY cool! Major props for your bold expression in editing. Love it!
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04/24/2006 08:58:58 AM
Interesting but confusing, visually speaking.
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04/24/2006 06:23:09 AM
Nice work. Love it.
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04/24/2006 01:07:52 AM
yummy!
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04/24/2006 01:06:18 AM
I like the title. Interesting that the single left bottom pane shows off the boots and her hand, while the others are reflective. Nice. 7
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04/24/2006 12:15:46 AM
Too much processing for my taste... To me it crosses the threshold from DP to Digital Art. I'm old school, don't hate me for it...
TC
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