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sobered snare
sobered snare

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Challenge: Color (Classic Editing)
Camera: Kodak CX4230
Location: room
Date: Apr 2, 2003
Aperture: F2.76
ISO: 140
Shutter: 1/30
Date Uploaded: Apr 2, 2003


Place: 294 out of 295
Avg (all users): 2.7512
Avg (commenters): 2.4500
Avg (participants): 2.5899
Avg (non-participants): 3.0714
Views since voting: 929
Votes: 209
Comments: 22
Favorites: 0

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04/16/2003 12:16:29 AM
One word of advice, if you care about the score then you have to be very careful to meet the challenge in a very obvious way. If you mainly want to just get annoying comments and show an alternate interpretation, then go right ahead. More power to you. Much as we might dislike it, this is a bit of a popularity contest for our pictures. You have to learn to appeal to a wide audience in order to get high scores.
I only subtract one point for not meeting the challenge, but LOTS of voters will automatically drop you to a 3 for it. Then they'd drop another point for having soft focus and a composition that isn't as strong as it could be. I think that's how you ended up with such a low score.
The description for this challenge said that you should make color the most important element of your photo. I'm usually pretty open minded about these things, but no matter how I look at this photo, I don't think of color as an important element because there is no color. Even if you took a shot and desaturated everything except one small item, using the selective color to make the subject stand out would have met the challenge IMO.
As far as the picture goes outside of the challenge... I think that the lighting is a bit too dark - there could be a greater tonal range or more contrast between the light and dark. Focus IS soft. It was probably because you were too close to the subject for your camera, and the aperture is way too small to allow any leeway. I think the subject is good, (not for this challenge) but you need a different way of shooting it. Having the bottom part cut off by the frame just doesn't work. You might be able to do a close-up from a lower angle that uses shallow dof... creating a diagonal that leads into the background with the drumsticks. I'm not sure... even shooting directly from above so that it is more symmetric and geometric would work better for me.
Don't get too frustrated with the score. It's all a learning experience.
04/14/2003 01:17:50 AM
OK. Im really pissed at all of you people who cant see outside the box with this challenge. there was more than one perspective to this challenge. My picture was meant to be an absence of color, hence the name "sobered snare". Sober meaning colorless.

Message edited by author 2003-04-14 01:24:28.
 Comments Made During the Challenge
04/12/2003 11:21:51 PM
I'm sorry, but I don't see the connection to "Collour", and the subject is not positioned very well.
04/12/2003 09:47:30 PM
I think you have accomplished what you have set out to achieve. The lowest score. Sorry, just don't see any relationship to the theme.
04/12/2003 01:00:38 PM
I don't get it. Not only is it out of focus, it lacks color. I'm assuming maybe you're trying to suggest a mood...I don't think this challange was appropriate for this picture.
04/11/2003 01:11:11 AM
Nice contradction with the circle and straight lines. where's the color????
04/10/2003 07:45:06 PM
I'm unsure what the focus was intented to be on, but the DOF is too shallow, or the focal point is somewhere I can't discern. Its terribly out of focus, and doesn't meet the challenge. I'm sorry to say I scored it quite low. I do, however, enjoy your composition (just needs to be a little higher to get the bottom of the drum) and the lighting isn't bad at all either. :) keep trying!
04/09/2003 11:57:05 PM
Lost on the theme of color here? Would make a good pi submission. The cropping on this one is too tight. Cut off some of the drum. More DOF to bring the drum detail and sticks more into focus. I like the lighting and lines on the drum.
04/09/2003 07:54:56 PM
I'm so sorry, but I don't get this at all. Is this supposed to represent the opposite of color? In the wrong challenge? Photo quality is O.K. and I am open to hearing your point of view, but otherwise the best I can go is a 4. Swash
04/09/2003 05:32:40 PM
I don't see how this fits the challenge at all.
04/09/2003 11:21:00 AM
Too obscure
04/08/2003 10:26:22 PM
Dude, no color.
04/08/2003 06:23:19 PM
where's the color??
04/08/2003 03:10:46 PM
Color...umm....well....Decent shot, but a bit dark.
04/08/2003 11:29:45 AM
Sorry, but I fail to see how "color is the most important element" here as described in the challenge details.
04/08/2003 04:36:33 AM
This is a color challenge! I'm not sure you'll score so high with a B&W photo. Or was this supposed to have been put in the pi challenge and you submitted it here by mistake. If so, ask if you can get it DQ'ed.
04/07/2003 06:34:55 PM
i don't really see how this meets color.
04/07/2003 05:34:57 PM
No color. Plus it's under-exposed I think.
04/07/2003 03:25:54 PM
Too much color..
04/07/2003 01:48:55 PM
nice image, although it's black and white and this was a color shoot
04/07/2003 11:52:42 AM
I'm missing your point of 'color' in this photo... - setzler
04/07/2003 07:08:56 AM

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