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09/08/2002 09:09:29 AM · #1
Originally posted by Zeissman:
Let me make a correction is any cares.

Popular Photography has a Candid/Humor catagory, so they do include animals, but all the examples I saw were obviously humourus.

Candid just means the person is not posing for the camera. You are catching them acting semi-naturally. A politician knows he is being photographed during a speech, but those are candid photographs.



In my less-than-expert opinion, a politician is not candid standing on the podium speaking. Maybe if he was talking to his wife after the speech that might be candid. The best example I can think of is the baseball players standing in the outfield chatting. I wouldn't say its candid when they are playing. But we expect them to play. I think its simply the fact of them doing something we normally don't expect that makes it candid, even if every second they're watched, and know it, by thousands or millions of people.
I agree with just-married regarding the animals personified can be candid. Good luck moving!!
BB


* This message has been edited by the author on 9/8/2002 9:16:20 AM.
09/07/2002 10:30:30 PM · #2
huh ?
09/07/2002 10:20:10 PM · #3
Originally posted by cq107:
can·did Pronunciation Key (kndd)
adj.
1 Free from prejudice; impartial.
2 Characterized by openness and sincerity of expression; unreservedly straightforward: In private, I gave them my candid opinion. See Synonyms at frank1.
3 Not posed or rehearsed: a candid snapshot.


Well said... errr... Well defined...

But frankly, anyone that didn't know that anything outside of strictly adult aged humans that were completely unaware that thier picture was being taken (but did not have thier back to the camera either) in crisp, perfect focus with a depth of field covering everything in the shot, would score very low and get "does not meet the challenge" comments, was deluding themselves...

In the end, ask yourself if you are proud of your non-adult, non-human, blurred, whatever shot. If you are, then in my book, you didn't just meet the challenge, you won it.

Congratulations :)
09/07/2002 06:56:51 PM · #4
Originally posted by magnetic9999:
candied? or candid?

09/07/2002 05:33:24 PM · #5
Originally posted by alansfreed:
Dang... I thought THIS was the matter at hand...

09/07/2002 05:13:40 PM · #6
can·did Pronunciation Key (kndd)
adj.
1 Free from prejudice; impartial.
2 Characterized by openness and sincerity of expression; unreservedly straightforward: In private, I gave them my candid opinion. See Synonyms at frank1.
3 Not posed or rehearsed: a candid snapshot.

//www.dictionary.com/search?q=candid
09/07/2002 03:51:04 PM · #7
Originally posted by Zeissman:
Let me make a correction if any cares.
Popular Photography has a Candid/Humor catagory, so they do include animals, but all the examples I saw were obviously humourus.


I've been away from my computer today, so I was glad to see this correction at the bottom of the post. Saved me the effort. By my definition of "animal candid", humor would make sense because we tend to find it funny when animals take on human behavior.


As to the exact title of the book of animal candids I have, as soon as I unpack, I'll be happy to pass it on. My husband, who bought me the book for my last birthday, seems to remember a more poetic title, but neither of us has gotten in just right.

Dawn
09/07/2002 01:54:22 PM · #8
Let me make a correction is any cares.

Popular Photography has a Candid/Humor catagory, so they do include animals, but all the examples I saw were obviously humourus.

Candid just means the person is not posing for the camera. You are catching them acting semi-naturally. A politician knows he is being photographed during a speech, but those are candid photographs.

09/07/2002 05:18:09 AM · #9
The person really does not have to be unaware of the camera for a shot to be candid. There are so many definitions being applied by voters in this challenge, it's a bit insane. I've just completely suspended judgement on meeting the challenge, personally, and voted according to my usual standards of a photo's quality as well as how well the photo captured a moment or a mood. I've rated some animal shots highly as a result.
09/07/2002 04:41:53 AM · #10
What is the animal is looking away anarchos?
09/07/2002 02:33:30 AM · #11
to me a candid shot is shot of a subject who does not know that there picture is being taken. an animal has a mind and it has emotions as well there is no way it can know its being photographed though. Although a picture where the animal is looking at the lense seems to me like its not candid because they are acknowledging the presence of a camera
09/07/2002 01:47:47 AM · #12
Preplanned and posed are not the same thing either. If you went to the wedding reception with your camera and went around looking for shots then it is rather planned. You know where to look and have some idea of what you're looking for. The photographer has a plan even if the subjects don't have a clue. In that way, I think you can have a planned candid.
09/07/2002 12:33:59 AM · #13
For me, animal photos are not candids. They have their own classification as either animal or wildlife photos. However, there are several different classifications of people pictures. Portraits are posed, well lit, preplanned ect... Candids are another type of people picture. If it is not preplanned or posed and usually taken without their knowledge, I'd consider that a candid. For example, a traditional wedding shoot would have both posed and candids.
my 2 cents.


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09/06/2002 11:07:53 PM · #14
I agree globally with people saying that 'candid' is mainly a 'human' behavior. Personally, I have often do a -2 or -3 to the photo (sometimes explaining it when the photo was really good or good, but not candid from me).
There is some picture I like in this challenge that I would have given 7 to 9, this week they got 4 to 6.
I tend to think that people sticking to the definition 'not posed' are stretching the challenge. Outside the challenge, outside the fact of having to take a picture , the global knowledge would be that a candid moment involved people. And somewhere it has to be a 'moment'. Well .. not easy but ... this is what I think.
09/06/2002 10:51:36 PM · #15
How many years have you been reading Popular Photography? I think I have at least three years worth of annual contest issues.


Amazon.com Results: we were unable to find exact matches for your search for animal candids .
Would you like to search again?

And once again, I will go back to the idea that if you want to enter a contest or challenge, you must reach the audience. If the majority does not agree with you, then too bad. I know I have been in that spot.




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* This message has been edited by the author on 9/6/2002 10:53:17 PM.
09/06/2002 10:28:57 PM · #16
Originally posted by Zeissman:
I have never seen an animal photo in any publication classified as candid. On what are you basing your assertion?


Actually I have an entire cook of Animal Candids and I think it is entitled just that. I would look for certain, but we are packing to move and the books went first. Perhaps while unpacking I'll revisit this post.

If you look through Popular Photography's annual contest, I doubt you will see any animals in the Candid catagory.

I doubt that this comment is true. I think it is just as likely as not. I tend to agree with (shoot was it Alansfreed) above when he said "when the animal starts to take on human characteristics, it becomes candid."

2 cents in a dollar's worth of space.
Dawn
09/06/2002 12:05:16 PM · #17
candied? or candid?

09/06/2002 11:04:33 AM · #18
Originally posted by alansfreed:
My can of Mt. Dew on my desk isn't capable of posing, either, but I wouldn't call a shot of it "candid."


Oh, the Mountain Dew is definitely canneded.

Mine is bottleded though.

-Terry
09/06/2002 11:00:29 AM · #19
Actually, I cropped out most of the mess. :(
09/06/2002 11:00:05 AM · #20
yer desk is messy like mine :)
09/06/2002 10:58:22 AM · #21
Dang... I thought THIS was the matter at hand...

09/06/2002 10:53:54 AM · #22
Pictures of animals are usually labelled as nature of wildlife, I have never seen an animal photo in any publication classified as candid. On what are you basing your assertion?

Candid: . photographed informally: photographed or filmed without the subject knowing or having the opportunity to prepare or pose a candid documentary.

I would say it would be rather hard for an animal to prepare of pose.

If you look through Popular Photography's annual contest, I doubt you will see any animals in the Candid catagory.



* This message has been edited by the author on 9/6/2002 10:55:09 AM.
09/06/2002 10:53:35 AM · #23
Candid, as defined by the dictionary, could include any subject, for the most part.

Candid, as traditionally used in terms of photography, usually includes people.
09/06/2002 10:50:43 AM · #24
ANYway, back to the matter at hand...
09/06/2002 10:46:06 AM · #25
Originally posted by alansfreed:
Now I'm thinking more and more that perhaps I should have submitted a shot of my Dew ;)

I would have entered a Mountain Dew shot..with glycerin enhanced "Sweat" all over the can and called it "Sweat".

But then I ain't afraid of no 4's!!!
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