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04/03/2015 11:36:30 AM · #51
Originally posted by vawendy:

Originally posted by ubique:

Originally posted by NikonJeb:



EVERYONE is qualified to state how they feel about an image as it affects them and creates an impression.......I don't care if you've never shot an image in your life, just describe how the image you're viewing made an impression, favorably or otherwise.


Jeb's right, as he so often is (except when he says that an MGB is a cool car). Don't bother with saying how a photo could be made better, because you'll nearly always be wrong. Instead say how the photo makes you feel; the impact that it has on you, because you will always be right. And always more helpful to the photographer too.

Take a look at this tutorial.. Best advice ever on how to evaluate and comment on a photograph. Any photograph, not just arty stuff.


Sorry -- have to disagree on this one. You have to realize that commenting on how a photo could be made better can be extremely helpful. I received one of these from Andrewt when I first started. I followed up and was shown a whole new world.

But mainly, it's an exercise for the user. I give feedback on how a shot could be made better, simply because it helps me look critically. It's hard to be critical of your own work, because many times you're too emotionally involved. Looking at other's work and seeing what you would change and why you would change it to make it stronger is an invaluable tool for helping you learn your own work. Yes -- you may very well be missing the point the original photographer had in mind, but you're helping frame your own eye, your own vision, your own world. That's why so many people say that they learn more by commenting than receiving comments.

That being said -- keeping everything in mind is when you learn the most. Comment on both aspects -- how it made you feel and how you would have made it better, then you'll remember all the aspects that are important in photography.

Some people scoff at the technicals. Some people ignore the emotional content. The geniuses are the ones that can do it all. And I'm not saying photos need to be technically perfect and emotional. The incredible photographers know when the technicals are important. When they need to be broken. And what needs to be said.

So don't shut down any types of comments. All types of comments are useful. They help us see how others see the world. And if you're interested in making a statement with your photography, you need to reach more than just yourself.


+`1

It would be "ok" if someone told me how they felt whatever, I know I am really drawn into those photos that really pull an emotion out, but critiquing is not all about the emotions.. I think the photograph and what is wrong with it or not, that is what I wanna learn and know, that is not why I am here is for emotions. I have kids, family and friends and married for emotional softy feeling kind of things for that. I am here to learn the techys of photography. Give me the techs, what do you think is wrong with it. what can improve it. After all, this IS a photography website right?

The hard part with me is that I don't know if someone did something on purpose and I will call it out and then get a PM, I meant to do it this way or that way. Well, how is the voter to know. The only thing I wish we had access too was the special notes that we make when we submit our images. Then the photographer could tell us, I did this on purpose.. Well, ok then, that works and maybe images won't be dingged so much.

Tell me about the processing what was wrong, was it overexposed/under exposed, was it not really in focused, should it have been photostacked to make it the best. When I go out shooting, I really remember some things that were said to do this or not do that. I know I would never improve if some of the tough hard core comments were never said. It is because of those hard shot, hard core, say it to the point never sugar coat comments that I need.
I am improving (at least I think I am LOL) But if I had a choice between emotional comments or the really hard core, give me the hard core. Tough skin is needed, if you need softy sugar coat love hugs, then go to facebook.

If a person is really good at techy stuff and sees something, I want it pointed out. It is all I ask. Don't worry about sugar coating or being tact. Spit it out :-D

Message edited by author 2015-04-03 12:04:48.
04/03/2015 12:38:30 PM · #52
Commenting does not always a better photography make. I know from experience. My "performance" here continues to decline... never did make the leap.

But I very much continue to enjoy photography in general, mostly looking at what all of you can do!

As for helping with technical details, I'm kinda useless. Sorry about that. But I will tell you what I like about your photo!
04/03/2015 12:44:09 PM · #53
The problem I have with commenting is that I don't want to come off as a know it all. I know I am not and I know some of the things I am pointing out in other photographs are things I need to improve in my own stuff. But if you dare to make a comment or point something out it can really make some people mad. I haven't commented much at all lately partly because of the lack of time but mostly because I don't really get into the "great job" kind of comments. The ones I like to make usually involve some kind of critique and its hard to know who wants those and who doesn't.
04/03/2015 12:52:51 PM · #54
When I do give a 1 the photo is so utterly atrocious that I'd have to write an essay to explain why :-)
04/03/2015 12:53:44 PM · #55
If the image moves me or if I feel as if my comment might offer some insight i'll leave one.

I don't feel the urge to comment on a image that doesn't move me. The low vote speaks for itself.

It's not meant in malice and thus its not an act of cowardice not to leave a comment on a low vote . If you get a low vote it's not a personal attack. Someone just didn't like the picture.
04/03/2015 02:16:44 PM · #56
Originally posted by Mike:

If you get a low vote it's not a personal attack. Someone just didn't like the picture.


That is the perspective that some people lose....
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