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05/31/2004 12:25:49 PM · #26
Six feet DOF
05/31/2004 12:42:43 PM · #27
I think people are going to look for things in the foreground and background to be in complete, sharp, focus.

This one might have qualified, but perhaps the distant objects don't have the detail needed to demonstrate the DOF.



Edited for grammar.

Message edited by author 2004-05-31 12:43:06.
05/31/2004 12:48:46 PM · #28
There is a good Article on Vividlight.com that explains everything about Hyperfocal distance. You can even download the Hyperfocal charts from there.

The following is an example of a very deep DOF, the feet AND the distant mountain are all in focus:



And there's another one, the boat AND the distant mountain are all in focus:


05/31/2004 01:14:09 PM · #29
Originally posted by Jacko:

Neener neener. With my Sigma 15-30mm set @ 15mm and F8.0 ... everything from 2.3 feet and beyond will be in focus :) using hyperfocal charts. 0.58 feet and beyond set at F22. neener neener :P


Don't forget to set your camera's focus at (or as close as possible) to the hyperfocal distance :)
05/31/2004 01:38:36 PM · #30
Here, use this hyperfocal calculator.

//www.mountainstorm.com/HyperFocal/HyperFocal.html

Message edited by author 2004-05-31 13:52:24.
05/31/2004 01:56:23 PM · #31
Originally posted by e301:

*manic laugh* Now you DSLR folks is really gonna have to work - for once our little compacts have the edge ;-)

Ed


Ed, you are so right. I just spent the morning taking crap shots because my camera won't cooperate even if I cranked up the fstop to f22-25. So I will have to revive my Olympus and go back out there.
05/31/2004 02:08:38 PM · #32
My entry to Where You Live challenge shows deep dof, F8 135mm.


edit to correct focal length to 135mm

Message edited by author 2004-05-31 14:10:59.
05/31/2004 02:41:53 PM · #33
Originally posted by Jacko:

Neener neener. With my Sigma 15-30mm set @ 15mm and F8.0 ... everything from 2.3 feet and beyond will be in focus :) using hyperfocal charts. 0.58 feet and beyond set at F22. neener neener :P


:-) Like I said, it's easier with a compact :-)

E
05/31/2004 02:42:28 PM · #34
Originally posted by Jacko:

Neener neener. With my Sigma 15-30mm set @ 15mm and F8.0 ... everything from 2.3 feet and beyond will be in focus :) using hyperfocal charts. 0.58 feet and beyond set at F22. neener neener :P


Does this mean we're going to see a bunch of big eyed bugs in the foreground AND background? :D Just kidding!
05/31/2004 03:03:57 PM · #35
Originally posted by Rooster:

Originally posted by dsidwell:

Originally posted by Rooster:

so whats the ideal ap for deep dof.
I did a lot of testing for my threes entry shot and feel like I got good practice for this one. What are others thinking?


The smaller the better. My camera's best is f 8.0, so I'll be using that! I expect this to be a lovely challenge to judge! I can't wait to see everyone's work!


yeah but I shot on 45 (my smallest) in the bright beaming sunlight & they all came out dark.


when I'm using f8 on my cam, pics come out very dark unless I lower the shutter speed to compensate
05/31/2004 03:41:09 PM · #36
Let's see, the winner will be a picture of a closeup of a bug crawling on the edge of a glass filled with some kind of colored liquid with a motorcycle jumping over it (hopefully driven by a cat), with a great scene photo'd by heida in the background with lovely grey clouds... let's see did I leave anything out??? oh yeah, it all has to be placed on top of a mirror and shot in a white box :-) that will make it to the red ribbon, but if you want the blue, need a couple of drops of water dripping off the legs of the bug, of course the whole picture has to be in focus.
05/31/2004 03:47:51 PM · #37
While trying to calculate the hyperfocal distance for my camera I became confused on which values need to be used for what. Not wanting to steal the focus of the thread I started a new thread.

Thanks for looking

David
05/31/2004 03:57:20 PM · #38
Originally posted by Kali:

Ok so some of you are saying that deep DOF is having everything in focus. I suppose I'm just different... IMO I feel this pic qualifies more so than a pic with everything in focus.

erm imho, I'd say a big no to this showing a deep depth of field.
05/31/2004 04:00:47 PM · #39
can someone explain hyperfocal distance please?
05/31/2004 04:07:58 PM · #40
Originally posted by Rooster:

can someone explain hyperfocal distance please?


Try this article for ful explanation.
In short, the hyperfocal distance is the nearest focal distance that will keep something at infinity in focus. Thik of the object at infinity as being at the far end of the DoF.
05/31/2004 04:09:30 PM · #41
Originally posted by Rooster:

can someone explain hyperfocal distance please?


The best way can be possible explained you can find it on John Setzler's site.
Under "writings" download the Exposure tutorial.
Happy reading!
05/31/2004 04:16:47 PM · #42
Originally posted by skief:

Let's see, the winner will be a picture of a closeup of a bug crawling on the edge of a glass filled with some kind of colored liquid with a motorcycle jumping over it (hopefully driven by a cat), with a great scene photo'd by heida in the background with lovely grey clouds... let's see did I leave anything out??? oh yeah, it all has to be placed on top of a mirror and shot in a white box :-) that will make it to the red ribbon, but if you want the blue, need a couple of drops of water dripping off the legs of the bug, of course the whole picture has to be in focus.


05/31/2004 04:22:19 PM · #43
Originally posted by deafwolf:

Originally posted by skief:

Let's see, the winner will be a picture of a closeup of a bug crawling on the edge of a glass filled with some kind of colored liquid with a motorcycle jumping over it (hopefully driven by a cat), with a great scene photo'd by heida in the background with lovely grey clouds... let's see did I leave anything out??? oh yeah, it all has to be placed on top of a mirror and shot in a white box :-) that will make it to the red ribbon, but if you want the blue, need a couple of drops of water dripping off the legs of the bug, of course the whole picture has to be in focus.


Ohhh . . . is that all? Oops; I don't think I can do that. No ribbon for me;0(

05/31/2004 04:30:05 PM · #44
Originally posted by skief:

Let's see, the winner will be a picture of a closeup of a bug crawling on the edge of a glass filled with some kind of colored liquid with a motorcycle jumping over it (hopefully driven by a cat), with a great scene photo'd by heida in the background with lovely grey clouds... let's see did I leave anything out??? oh yeah, it all has to be placed on top of a mirror and shot in a white box :-) that will make it to the red ribbon, but if you want the blue, need a couple of drops of water dripping off the legs of the bug, of course the whole picture has to be in focus.


Well, all of this could be shot and then rephotographed under plexiglass with water droplets on it...then I think we have covered everything for ribbon winning potential! :o)

(all in jest...no offense meant to anyone)
05/31/2004 04:37:28 PM · #45
Originally posted by Ecce Signum:

Originally posted by Kali:

Ok so some of you are saying that deep DOF is having everything in focus. I suppose I'm just different... IMO I feel this pic qualifies more so than a pic with everything in focus.

erm imho, I'd say a big no to this showing a deep depth of field.

That's why these threads are here... clarification :D
05/31/2004 04:37:50 PM · #46
Where's the frog fit in? LOL Hey, does this mean an entry out-of-focus, but evenly throughout, will score better than a perfectly execute, but shallow DOF??? Just kidding, too!

Message edited by author 2004-05-31 16:39:34.
05/31/2004 04:41:01 PM · #47
Originally posted by Kylie:

Where's the frog fit in? LOL


yea without frogs there is no ribbon!

I'm thinking the winner will catch the frog with the long tongue out just about to catch the insect described above... ?!
05/31/2004 04:47:29 PM · #48
Originally posted by frumoaznicul:

Originally posted by Kylie:

Where's the frog fit in? LOL


yea without frogs there is no ribbon!

I'm thinking the winner will catch the frog with the long tongue out just about to catch the insect described above... ?!


All this, with the photographer standing on his head, would have been perfect for the unusual viewpoint!!
06/06/2004 03:48:01 PM · #49
i've read a bunch of different articles online about hyperfocal distance, and i have a question that isn't answered in any of the articles.

why did the lens makers stop putting markings on the lens for the hyperfocal distance? it sure would make things easier if it were still there.
06/06/2004 03:55:24 PM · #50
Originally posted by nborton:

i've read a bunch of different articles online about hyperfocal distance, and i have a question that isn't answered in any of the articles.

why did the lens makers stop putting markings on the lens for the hyperfocal distance? it sure would make things easier if it were still there.


The only reason I can think of is that most newer lenses are not using manual aperture rings.
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