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09/21/2009 04:20:18 PM · #51 |
Originally posted by K10DGuy:
Originally posted by Ivo:
This is like applauding the government for a new non-smoking initiative when they are the same people who collect taxes from cigarette sales. It throws mud in the face of Site Council as it renders their efforts to be somewhat futile. The whole friend voting thing happens on this site anyhow through the existing structure and is encouraged by "league teams" and forum requests to help select member images for challenge submissions.
The only fault of these guys is that they developed a pattern. Or let me say, they irritated someone enough to encourage SC to seek out a pattern.
These patterns already exist and we all complain about them repeatedly through troll complaints. Which of course, do not exist.
Usually the scrubber takes care of them but in this case, the "SC scrubbers" got involved.
SC shouldn't have to scrub these messes when these messes shouldn't occur in the first place. |
That's an awful lot of 'shouldn'ts'. I guess you have all the solutions packaged up and ready to send to Langdon and the SC then, right? |
No, I was going to send them to you, the new owner of DPC!! ;-)
Message edited by author 2009-09-21 16:20:38. |
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09/21/2009 04:20:23 PM · #52 |
Originally posted by soup:
why isn't that done for every payment ?
Originally posted by scalvert:
It had nothing to do with the thread. Langdon verified credit cards. |
as far a Simms, and his Exif idea - it's bunk. i have a number of digital cameras in the house here. and i suspect many others do too. |
most duplicates have never paid membership. In this case, rugman1969 wasn't currently a paid member and we didn't look further to see if he ever was. This is now something we will check. |
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09/21/2009 04:20:37 PM · #53 |
Thanks to everyone that helped me get back on DPC. Quite a few of you posted in the forums and via email stating that my banning may have been a mistake.
Just a few to thank:
Art ROFLMAO
BEAR MUSIC
Cynthiann
SEG
And especially SIMMS.
Iâm not sure if his post is the one that started everyone thinking that KenSkid and Rugman1969 are two different people but Iâm glad he dug into cache files and posted his findings !
There are too many others to thank by name.
To everyone who hung me in the forums without a trial:
I want to say I donât hold a grudge and you have the right to post what you want in the forumsâ¦just like I do. The only thing that bothered me was that I couldnât do what I do best --- ***Slap you back down in the thread !!**** It was eating me alive !! ;-) I can take all the criticism and name calling like âright wing freakâ âno talent bumâ and âloserâ but the hardest part of this to swallow was for SC to call me Rugman !!!!!!!! (Sorry Rug).
I did email a few members that had public emails to explain my side of the story. Although I could have, I decided not to email anyone who was tearing me up in the thread and Iâm glad I didnât.
Iâm sure the people who dislike me will continue to dislike me but thatâs not a "banable" offense ! LOL !
******* You all couldnât see what wasnât posted in the forums but this was pretty funny****
When SIMMS came up with the idea of looking at camera exif data to determine the âserial numberâ of the camera to detect duplicated accounts I started to laugh my butt off. Why ? Well for starters SEG was the first to defend me so it threw some suspicion upon him that SEG/Kenskid/Rugman1969 were all one person. What got me laughing and an immediate visit to SEG was that SEG has my old D70 camera that links him to me ! I would have flipped if SEG was banned !
Itâs a little ironic that the locked thread is now a treasure trove for anyone who wants to try to dup accounts and not get caught as well as some good pointers for SC in helping them determine true dups !
Lastlyâ¦I am banned from entering contests and commenting on pictures. This is because of "buddy voting", which in all honesty, I did realize I was doing or that it was a very banable activity.
All I can do for three months is poke around in the forumsâ¦â¦â¦â¦SWEET ! ;--)
Thanks again and no hard feelings.
Kenskid
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09/21/2009 04:23:20 PM · #54 |
Originally posted by Ivo:
Originally posted by K10DGuy:
That's an awful lot of 'shouldn'ts'. I guess you have all the solutions packaged up and ready to send to Langdon and the SC then, right? |
No, I was going to send them to you, the new owner of DPC!! ;-) |
Oh. I thought you wanted quicker solutions ;) My funding is coming from selling lemonade in December. |
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09/21/2009 04:26:48 PM · #55 |
welcome back.
now please change account name to kensrug1969
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09/21/2009 04:27:47 PM · #56 |
Originally posted by K10DGuy:
Originally posted by Ivo:
Originally posted by K10DGuy:
That's an awful lot of 'shouldn'ts'. I guess you have all the solutions packaged up and ready to send to Langdon and the SC then, right? |
No, I was going to send them to you, the new owner of DPC!! ;-) |
Oh. I thought you wanted quicker solutions ;) My funding is coming from selling lemonade in December. |
I, we, they .... have all sent in tickets and mentioned improvements time and time again. So yes, this has been tried. I like Doc's solution personally.
Lemonade in December means you'll be selling snow cones?? lol |
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09/21/2009 04:28:35 PM · #57 |
Originally posted by Simms:
I'll have you know that Ron Jeremy is the Chuck Norris of the adult film industry.. |
He's fat and overweight.
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09/21/2009 04:31:37 PM · #58 |
Originally posted by soup:
why isn't that done for every payment ?
Originally posted by scalvert:
It had nothing to do with the thread. Langdon verified credit cards. |
as far a Simms, and his Exif idea - it's bunk. i have a number of digital cameras in the house here. and i suspect many others do too. |
Hey, I was brainstorming - when I go off a brainstorm lots of weird and wacky ideas come up.. But in all honesty - if they had entered their photos with a Canon 30D (for example) and the other with a Nikon D50, then surely it would have to be questioned. A lot of us have 2 or more cameras - but not many of us shoot with 2 or more systems.
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09/21/2009 04:31:38 PM · #59 |
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09/21/2009 04:32:36 PM · #60 |
Originally posted by Ivo:
Originally posted by K10DGuy:
Originally posted by Ivo:
Originally posted by K10DGuy:
That's an awful lot of 'shouldn'ts'. I guess you have all the solutions packaged up and ready to send to Langdon and the SC then, right? |
No, I was going to send them to you, the new owner of DPC!! ;-) |
Oh. I thought you wanted quicker solutions ;) My funding is coming from selling lemonade in December. |
I, we, they .... have all sent in tickets and mentioned improvements time and time again. So yes, this has been tried. I like Doc's solution personally.
Lemonade in December means you'll be selling snow cones?? lol |
And yellow snow at that....
Ken, welcome back. (although I do not condone your conduct in the other thread) Your situation certainly brought a lot of things to light, so in the end, hopefully it did some overall good in the way things are looked after.
Message edited by author 2009-09-21 16:35:17. |
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09/21/2009 04:33:53 PM · #61 |
Originally posted by AperturePriority:
Originally posted by Simms:
I'll have you know that Ron Jeremy is the Chuck Norris of the adult film industry.. |
He's fat and overweight. |
Heh, but what a job.. |
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09/21/2009 04:35:38 PM · #62 |
Originally posted by basssman7:
Originally posted by Ivo:
Originally posted by K10DGuy:
Originally posted by Ivo:
Originally posted by K10DGuy:
That's an awful lot of 'shouldn'ts'. I guess you have all the solutions packaged up and ready to send to Langdon and the SC then, right? |
No, I was going to send them to you, the new owner of DPC!! ;-) |
Oh. I thought you wanted quicker solutions ;) My funding is coming from selling lemonade in December. |
I, we, they .... have all sent in tickets and mentioned improvements time and time again. So yes, this has been tried. I like Doc's solution personally.
Lemonade in December means you'll be selling snow cones?? lol |
And yellow snow at that.... |
It's like putting a wiffleball on a T stand for a toddler. |
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09/21/2009 04:36:07 PM · #63 |
Originally posted by frisca:
on topic please, folks! |
This place is out of control! Maybe Nostra Culpa was a bad idea.
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09/21/2009 04:37:02 PM · #64 |
Originally posted by Strikeslip:
Originally posted by frisca:
on topic please, folks! |
This place is out of control! Maybe Nostra Culpa was a bad idea. |
Just curious are you trying to push buttons to get suspended? Or do you know exactly where the line is and haven't crossed it yet?
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09/21/2009 04:49:31 PM · #65 |
Originally posted by Simms:
Originally posted by AperturePriority:
Originally posted by Simms:
I'll have you know that Ron Jeremy is the Chuck Norris of the adult film industry.. |
He's fat and overweight. |
Heh, but what a job.. |
yaa but that got me thinking of the poor under him. |
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09/21/2009 04:55:59 PM · #66 |
| Thanks for updating this to let us know what happened. It takes a lot of courage to do that! |
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09/21/2009 05:02:04 PM · #67 |
i know, but a 'system' isn't what everyone has.
i have a canon P&S, a 10d, a 30d, and a samsung omnia ( phone cam -w exif ). so the system theory is sort of a ( hit one nail on the head, and miss 20 of them ) kind of theory.
Originally posted by Simms:
Hey, I was brainstorming - when I go off a brainstorm lots of weird and wacky ideas come up.. But in all honesty - if they had entered their photos with a Canon 30D (for example) and the other with a Nikon D50, then surely it would have to be questioned. A lot of us have 2 or more cameras - but not many of us shoot with 2 or more systems.
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what if the site were to require CC#'s from everyone - for ID purposes. it wouldn't be the 1st time i've come across that.
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09/21/2009 05:03:40 PM · #68 |
it's a fine line - and he has good balance... :)
Originally posted by MattO:
Just curious are you trying to push buttons to get suspended? Or do you know exactly where the line is and haven't crossed it yet?
Matt |
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09/21/2009 05:04:44 PM · #69 |
Originally posted by soup:
i know, but a 'system' isn't what everyone has.
i have a canon P&S, a 10d, a 30d, and a samsung omnia ( phone cam -w exif ). so the system theory is sort of a ( hit one nail on the head, and miss 20 of them ) kind of theory.
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OK, so you're right and I'm wrong.
Happy now?
Jeez. |
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09/21/2009 05:09:52 PM · #70 |
The DPC soap opera, only people here would understand it but it is a dandy of a soap opera!
Kudos to the SC for being willing to correct the mistake, and for everyone bashing SC lighten up they do a lot to try to keep things as fair as possible which is not an easy job with such a large group of cheaters...:P |
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09/21/2009 05:10:34 PM · #71 |
not really - are you ?...
you can make points, but i can't ?
jeez
Originally posted by Simms:
OK, so you're right and I'm wrong.
Happy now?
Jeez. |
there has to be a means to properly identify who's cheating. your method wouldn't, the current method obviously doesn't, so i'm merely trying to save wasted time by ( the admins ) avoiding trying something that is destined to fail...
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09/21/2009 05:13:58 PM · #72 |
Originally posted by PapaBob:
The DPC soap opera, only people here would understand it but it is a dandy of a soap opera!
Kudos to the SC for being willing to correct the mistake, and for everyone bashing SC lighten up they do a lot to try to keep things as fair as possible which is not an easy job with such a large group of cheaters...:P |
well if you start with assumption that dpc is large group of cheaters ... |
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09/21/2009 05:15:57 PM · #73 |
Originally posted by zxaar:
Originally posted by PapaBob:
The DPC soap opera, only people here would understand it but it is a dandy of a soap opera!
Kudos to the SC for being willing to correct the mistake, and for everyone bashing SC lighten up they do a lot to try to keep things as fair as possible which is not an easy job with such a large group of cheaters...:P |
well if you start with assumption that dpc is large group of cheaters ... |
It makes me feel better when I assume they are cheating and that's why they always beat me...lol |
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09/21/2009 05:21:09 PM · #74 |
Originally posted by PapaBob:
Originally posted by zxaar:
Originally posted by PapaBob:
The DPC soap opera, only people here would understand it but it is a dandy of a soap opera!
Kudos to the SC for being willing to correct the mistake, and for everyone bashing SC lighten up they do a lot to try to keep things as fair as possible which is not an easy job with such a large group of cheaters...:P |
well if you start with assumption that dpc is large group of cheaters ... |
It makes me feel better when I assume they are cheating and that's why they always beat me...lol |
:-D,
rikki indeed won lots of ribbons by cheating. |
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09/21/2009 05:22:45 PM · #75 |
Originally posted by soup:
not really - are you ?...
you can make points, but i can't ?
jeez
there has to be a means to properly identify who's cheating. your method wouldn't, the current method obviously doesn't, so i'm merely trying to save wasted time by ( the admins ) avoiding trying something that is destined to fail... |
I was referring to the recent issue of kenskid and rugman, not as a blanket way of deducing dupe accounts on camera system alone. I also dropped in other suggestions such searching for usernames across the internet - flickr, facebook. Once you start putting all the pieces together you get a slightly clearer picture.
But as SEG(and kenskid) mentioned, even checking serial numbers on EXIF would of been flawed in this particular case as he had purchased a Nikon off Kenskid a while back, so effectively that would of drawn him into the web of intrigue and accusation for no other reason than buying a camera off someone he works with.
Its not a case of you not being able to make points, but you picked a tiny suggestion I made and expanded it to being my `final solution` to checking for dupe accounts, which is not what I was suggesting at all. |
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