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03/09/2009 06:01:54 PM · #901
Another published, oh, and 5 rejected... :)

Linkie

Those who've been watching our "Unconventional in March" side challenge may recognise this image... :)

Now standing at 5 published, 15 rejected.
03/09/2009 08:40:56 PM · #902
Originally posted by dougi555:

Another published, oh, and 5 rejected... :)

Linkie

Those who've been watching our "Unconventional in March" side challenge may recognise this image... :)

Now standing at 5 published, 15 rejected.


Nice one, I commented on it screening.
03/09/2009 11:21:51 PM · #903
Originally posted by pawdrix:

Originally posted by ursula:

Steve, you are perfectly qualified to vote. Voting to publish or not publish isn't that much different than assigning a numeric value to images in challenges. In both cases, you're voting your heart, your thinking - do you like the image, does it work for you...


I think I'm valuing even my own opinion less and less these days. I prefer discussion and not simply throwing an opinion out in one direction. I know, I myself miss a lot and see many other people "not getting it" across the board, throughout the internet. I suppose some images are clearly not earth shakers but I have less energy for them, these days?

Also, I don't vote much here on DPC either, so my feelings do cut in each direction, equally.

Over the last few weeks, with a number brilliant exceptions, things are starting to look a little more safe...perhaps obvious, over there. "The look" is becoming a little more clear but still underneath all the common stuff, the images are still very good.

Has the site seen or felt a change since you (Ursula) took a leave of absence? I assume if posthumous or Ubique were (Head) Screeners at 1x the front page would look quite different...no?


Yeah, I know what you mean about valuing your own opinion less and less, although I think I wouldn't call it so much your own opinion, but, at least in my case, your (my) own public expression of opinion. If anything, I trust my private opinions and my instincts more than ever, but I feel much less inclined to want to make them public.

Does it seem to you that the site has changed since I started my leave of absence there? I have been wondering about that myself. It doesn't seem to me that it has changed much, if any. It is always sobering to find out how little influence you actually had when you had your little bit of influence.

03/10/2009 06:31:37 AM · #904
Many rejects seem to pass first screening and then get rejected. Is each image seen by two screeners who have to both say yes before the image goes into member screening? i.e. each image has three chances of being knocked back?

Thanks

Paul
03/10/2009 09:58:51 AM · #905
Originally posted by nshapiro:

Originally posted by nshapiro:

...
Perhaps I need to see how my "favorites" do first though...

...ETA...I just posted this for screening. We'll see.



Unfortunately the following picture(s) were not published:

* #104632 (Portal to the Heavens)

The above photos will not be published. This does not mean they are not good
photos, just that they are not what we are looking for. Uploaded photos are
evaluated in terms of affect, originality, aesthetics and technical quality.
Carefully look through our collection to see what kind of photography
onexposure is intended for. Then select your absolutely best work and upload
again. The reject reasons are suggestions about what to look for to improve
the photo. If you want more feedback, paste the photo in the photo critique
forum.


Looks like it just failed in screening. No critical comments.

This is, by the way, a second place BetterPhoto winner. :)


Well after they rejected this one, one of my favorite photos, in early February, I decided to put 1x on hold. But yesterday, I thought I'd give it another try. This one seemed right up their alley. It took about 15 hours in screening, but was just published.

//1x.com/v2/#photos/latest-additions/23208/

Smaller DPC Version here:



ETA: This one is one of my favorite BW shots, especially after I had it printed and framed. Really a beautiful print!

Message edited by author 2009-03-10 10:03:01.
03/10/2009 10:28:26 AM · #906
Originally posted by ursula:

Yeah, I know what you mean about valuing your own opinion less and less, although I think I wouldn't call it so much your own opinion, but, at least in my case, your (my) own public expression of opinion. If anything, I trust my private opinions and my instincts more than ever, but I feel much less inclined to want to make them public.


It's funny because I'm bursting with so many (crazy) over the top opinions that should be kept in check but I feel less inclined to share lately. I love broad, open, back and forth discussion which is much easier to do face-to-face than over the internet. Overall I do trust my instincts but I also know that I miss a lot...more times than I care to admit.

If it weren't for Melethia, posthumous, Goodman, Jutilda, ubique etc. and their eyes along with the fact that I occasionally read through their comments, I would miss out on so much great work. It's odd when people say images should stand purely on their own, which I completely disagree with. I've found that others peoples ways of seeing can bring so much to the surface that folks such as myself...viewing on a simpler level, undoubtedly and often miss.

As for the site looking different since you've stepped away...who knows? I was more blown away when I first tuned in and see many images that I believe are fairly tepid but seem to stand out due to crisp processing a little more than on substance. Still pound for pound the work they publish is very good but some images seem a little more predictable.

I've had 5 rejects in a row. Two of which were bold and wish had been published because they weren't common yet pretty strong. I don't think I have anything else to offer at this point. If I get rejected too many times I don't really care but it does work on my subconcious a bit and might have a negative effect on my shooting. I'm better off just doing what I do and forgetting the rest.

eta: I have noticed as I posted before that in 98-99% of the portraits the subjects are brooding and the only time they publish portraits of people smiling is if the subject is a third worlder. Viewers seem to gravitate to the less fortunate still being able to muster a great big smile as seen in this image. In portrait terms it's quite straight forward but who can argue with that face? Right? I suppose that's what I mean by predictable...

Message edited by author 2009-03-10 10:46:33.
03/10/2009 10:39:51 AM · #907
And you didn't comment on my Holy Grail of street shots, Steve.... Was kinda hoping you'd like it. :(

Oh, and since this is a reject thread, which ones did you get rejected that you wanted to share? Post 'em here.

Message edited by author 2009-03-10 10:42:51.
03/10/2009 10:55:48 AM · #908


He's not brooding but if you knew this guy you would know how great a portrait this is (if I may say so myself...lol). I've only taken a few in my life where I can say the subjects actual personality came through genuinely and this is one of them. Generally speaking, I do think that image is a as good as the average published portrait but it does lack that deep, dark mystery that's prevalent in what they usually publish. Dark is deep....eh?



I improved the edits to meet what I assumed was to the tastes of the site...made each one a little richer in tonal
range.

Originally posted by Melethia:

And you didn't comment on my Holy Grail of street shots, Steve.... Was kinda hoping you'd like it. :(


I liked it but I didn't love it.

Message edited by author 2009-03-10 16:22:00.
03/10/2009 04:43:15 PM · #909
Ursula, I haven't been there long enough to tell. It is still a mystery to me how things work--one image will have 50% and not get published, then this one got the same and did get published today.

I guess I'm a little shy, still figuring things out. Have only submitted 5, with 2 accepted.
03/11/2009 09:20:02 AM · #910
reject #8

03/11/2009 12:06:41 PM · #911
Originally posted by pawdrix:

eta: I have noticed as I posted before that in 98-99% of the portraits the subjects are brooding and the only time they publish portraits of people smiling is if the subject is a third worlder. Viewers seem to gravitate to the less fortunate still being able to muster a great big smile as seen in this image. In portrait terms it's quite straight forward but who can argue with that face? Right? I suppose that's what I mean by predictable...


1x like every other large community falls victim to the clutches of conformity and becomes predictable. It's inescapable and inevitable.

Message edited by author 2009-03-11 12:07:46.
03/11/2009 02:51:24 PM · #912
One should be careful not to compromise their own identity, to fit in more.

Message edited by author 2009-03-11 15:17:06.
03/11/2009 03:47:52 PM · #913
Originally posted by Iraklis:

One should be careful not to compromise their own identity, to fit in more.


That's why I don't enter Challenges. I agressively do things that go against the grain or taste of the voters so it doesn't pay to have them rent space in my head. 1x definitely give you more latitude but still but thinking your shooting style to get published wouldn't be a good thing for me.

Though I'm a little angry with myself for not entering the 1000th. I thought Princess Sun would get pissed on so decided not to tarnish it with low votes and silly comments but now I think it may have done well. Not to sure.
03/11/2009 05:24:26 PM · #914
Originally posted by pawdrix:



Though I'm a little angry with myself for not entering the 1000th. I thought Princess Sun would get pissed on so decided not to tarnish it with low votes and silly comments but now I think it may have done well. Not to sure.


I'm starting to agree with you, I entered one that did well in 1X, 70% acceptance and nearly 4000 views yet here is scoring 5.55...... Also agree with your other comments, I was finding that the DPC "challenge" process, which at first I thought was pushing me, and maybe it did, was starting to restrict me. I wouldn't shoot things I liked because "it didn't fit with either the challenge or what I percieved the voter would want". I've now started concentrating on side challenges that better fit the mood I'm in, and the 1X thing I find very stimulating. On saying that I've now had 16 rejects and 5 published, but you're right, you shouldn't focus on it simply being published ( although you get a buzz to be in that crew ) but focus on what excites you. Lisa's "Unconventional..." side challenge is one that I am particularly enjoying....

Message edited by author 2009-03-12 21:04:49.
03/12/2009 07:48:01 AM · #915
another rejection .. !!
didnt have black border in 1x .

Comments from members: * white circle is too distracting.
Additional feedback: Of those who voted against your image, three indicated that there is a problem with color, two noted technical quality as a weakness and two selected impact as a reason for not publishing the image.


keep thinking i wont submit another one for rejection but for some dumb reason change my mind .. :)

Message edited by author 2009-03-12 08:12:59.
03/12/2009 10:30:48 AM · #916
Originally posted by roz:


[i]Comments from members: * white circle is too distracting.
:)


Now, that's what I call a dumb f*@#&^%g comment and wish I could explain to the person that left it why (in a nice, polite way of course). Just my opinion but isn't it incredibly annoying when someone sees the main subject as a distraction?

I think it's a nice image. I have no problem with the darkness as it's all about the breaking light. The toning is fine and is a good choice for the subject. I think it's just not a whopper in terms of strength/impact but still a very nice shot.

eta: One thing I like about 1x is that some of the photographers have really unique way toning. Since many of us use Photoshop in pretty straightforward ways we tend to see a lot of sameness in our coloring but there's a few 1xers that seriously break out in that regard.

Here's a cool example, of toning that I don't believe I've ever seen before. Even as odd as it seems, there is still something very genuine about it...like maybe 5 times a year that is actually how the light looked, at that precise moment. There's a lot of truth to it and the editing was not done by simply playing with color sliders to achieve crazy, over-the-top saturation levels.

Message edited by author 2009-03-12 12:53:40.
03/16/2009 05:37:51 PM · #917
Another published Link Here

That's now 6 published, 23 rejected! Phew, you have to work for it eh!
03/22/2009 06:11:48 AM · #918
I've been making use of the additional slots of my Bronze account this week and I uploaded a bunch of images - However, for me more slots means more rejection! Here are five:











03/22/2009 07:24:40 AM · #919


Latest reject...I think the processing is off...
03/22/2009 12:45:03 PM · #920
Rejection less than 2 hours after uploading. I must have made someone's day with this one!

03/24/2009 09:13:54 PM · #921
4 More rejections....



03/24/2009 10:03:50 PM · #922
Originally posted by Iraklis:



Latest reject...I think the processing is off...

I think the processing is actually quite fitting, it's just not the refined 1x style. But they seem to not realize (on average, I mean) that certain images and topics call for a raw, unpolished, contrasty look. It's almost hopeless to submit such images there (speaking from experience :))
03/25/2009 11:39:34 AM · #923


Well, it's game over for my photo "Game Over"...the photo received a few generous comments though so all is not lost and another one for the wall of my Peanut Gallery. ;-)
03/25/2009 12:41:20 PM · #924


Another reject ... eh!
03/25/2009 02:25:00 PM · #925
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