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01/27/2009 06:20:33 PM · #51 |
Black is black. And, white is white. Same goes for nearly black and nearly white. There are a lot of gray tones in between. Think of Ansel Adams' zones. //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zone_system Zones 2 through 8 would be ideal for this challenge.
From feedback comments (all marked "helpful") in the AA-style challenge, I've learned there is a wide variance in viewer's/voter's monitors. Calibration is everything. Even though I constrained my image to zones 2 through 8.... with zero pixels in zones 0, 1, 9, 10.... I suspect my image will not be seen that way by those with poorly calibrated or poor quality monitors.
So, do everyone a favor and calibrate your monitor prior to reviewing the contest entries. If you know you have a weak monitor, then take that into consideration in your DNMC comments.
Message edited by author 2009-01-27 18:21:19. |
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01/28/2009 05:40:30 AM · #52 |
Originally posted by Adamsw216:
Originally posted by BeeCee:
The RIGHT way is "grey" :) |
Seems that "gray" is a more common spelling of the word in the US, while "grey" is more common in the rest of the world. Both are generally interchangeable as both are understood.
"Gray is a color
Grey is a colour"
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There are two spellings and two meanings here.
Grey is a colour
Gray is a scientific unit relating to ionizing radiation; symbol Gy, named after Louis Gray.
Gray as a colour is a US variant that can lead to ambiguity if you are a radiologist lol.
However the Gray, Gy, was only defined in 1975 and as such the US variant of Grey would have been in common use by then and as such I reluctantly accept that for the purpose of the challenge the two words are interchangeable.
By the same token as the word Gray appears in the challenge description I feel that photographs of images depicting ionizing radiation would also comply.
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01/29/2009 03:40:00 PM · #53 |
Originally posted by Balko:
"Capture the color grey somehow. You should do your best to avoid extreme shades of gray (read: shades of black and white)."
Advanced editing and no mention of color or BW, so I guess we are free to do either, as long as it all comes out gray! |
When we shoot the other colors, Red Blue Green ETC, we do not turn these to black and white or desat. so my way of thinking is shoot Grey in color.
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01/29/2009 03:43:52 PM · #54 |
Originally posted by BrianR:
Originally posted by Balko:
"Capture the color grey somehow. You should do your best to avoid extreme shades of gray (read: shades of black and white)."
Advanced editing and no mention of color or BW, so I guess we are free to do either, as long as it all comes out gray! |
When we shoot the other colors, Red Blue Green ETC, we do not turn these to black and white or desat. so my way of thinking is shoot Grey in color. |
My higher scores will definitely go to the people that shoot full color and yet make Grey the primary and most important aspect of their main subject.
It could be a pigeon surrounded by a cacophony of rainbow skittles, but it if the pigeon is prominent and the main subject, and the photo is well done and creative, it'll get far more kudos than someone throwing in a B&W conversion of something. |
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01/29/2009 03:59:19 PM · #55 |
Originally posted by K10DGuy:
Originally posted by BrianR:
Originally posted by Balko:
"Capture the color grey somehow. You should do your best to avoid extreme shades of gray (read: shades of black and white)."
Advanced editing and no mention of color or BW, so I guess we are free to do either, as long as it all comes out gray! |
When we shoot the other colors, Red Blue Green ETC, we do not turn these to black and white or desat. so my way of thinking is shoot Grey in color. |
My higher scores will definitely go to the people that shoot full color and yet make Grey the primary and most important aspect of their main subject.
It could be a pigeon surrounded by a cacophony of rainbow skittles, but it if the pigeon is prominent and the main subject, and the photo is well done and creative, it'll get far more kudos than someone throwing in a B&W conversion of something. |
The thing about this approach is that it may *look* bw, but has not been converted. I've had several shots this month that, due to weather and what not, look bw. |
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01/29/2009 04:01:45 PM · #56 |
Originally posted by karmat:
Originally posted by K10DGuy:
Originally posted by BrianR:
Originally posted by Balko:
"Capture the color grey somehow. You should do your best to avoid extreme shades of gray (read: shades of black and white)."
Advanced editing and no mention of color or BW, so I guess we are free to do either, as long as it all comes out gray! |
When we shoot the other colors, Red Blue Green ETC, we do not turn these to black and white or desat. so my way of thinking is shoot Grey in color. |
My higher scores will definitely go to the people that shoot full color and yet make Grey the primary and most important aspect of their main subject.
It could be a pigeon surrounded by a cacophony of rainbow skittles, but it if the pigeon is prominent and the main subject, and the photo is well done and creative, it'll get far more kudos than someone throwing in a B&W conversion of something. |
The thing about this approach is that it may *look* bw, but has not been converted. I've had several shots this month that, due to weather and what not, look bw. |
Well, I'm talking about the incredibly obvious ones, but as always, creativity and impact will be paramount regardless. |
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01/30/2009 03:48:05 PM · #57 |
Originally posted by hahn23:
Black is black. And, white is white. Same goes for nearly black and nearly white. There are a lot of gray tones in between. Think of Ansel Adams' zones. //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zone_system Zones 2 through 8 would be ideal for this challenge.
From feedback comments (all marked "helpful") in the AA-style challenge, I've learned there is a wide variance in viewer's/voter's monitors. Calibration is everything. Even though I constrained my image to zones 2 through 8.... with zero pixels in zones 0, 1, 9, 10.... I suspect my image will not be seen that way by those with poorly calibrated or poor quality monitors.
So, do everyone a favor and calibrate your monitor prior to reviewing the contest entries. If you know you have a weak monitor, then take that into consideration in your DNMC comments. |
Nvidia graphics running the optimization wizard and following the prompts will set the icc profile for gray scale and the contrast for the gray scale by making the 2 darkest appear as 1,. Having said this resetting the the graphics default settings to be very very close to the real colors in today's world on my monitor.
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01/30/2009 03:59:11 PM · #58 |
| Yeah I still want to cyber kick Soul's Butt |
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01/30/2009 04:01:31 PM · #59 |
cyber kick away lol.
*pleading* honestly, I must have been drunk or something when I wrote that. I didn't mean for SC to actually pick up the ball and run with it. Have mercy on me....
Message edited by author 2009-01-30 16:03:50. |
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01/30/2009 04:55:52 PM · #60 |
Originally posted by SoulMan1978:
cyber kick away lol.
*pleading* honestly, I must have been drunk or something when I wrote that. I didn't mean for SC to actually pick up the ball and run with it. Have mercy on me.... |
*KICK*
I'm stuck in a one on one showdown with this challenge. If I live out the week, it'll be a miracle. |
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01/30/2009 05:14:50 PM · #61 |
| OK, I admit it everyone, I am genuinely feeling bad that I got us this challenge :-( |
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01/30/2009 05:17:22 PM · #62 |
Originally posted by SoulMan1978:
OK, I admit it everyone, I am genuinely feeling bad that I got us this challenge :-( |
Oh, don't ;D We're just giving you a hard time.
Look at it this way:
FINALLY we have a challenge that is actually kind of difficult to do. It's causing some serious consideration and thinking to happen. It may result in either some of the best images we've seen in a long time, or a giant wash of crap with some serious diamonds hidden within. Either way, it's going to test DPC like many challenges haven't been able to do in a long time, IMO.
That's wonderful.
Give yourself a clap on the back.
Maybe it'll take your mind off the feet on your ass. LOL. |
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02/01/2009 01:11:44 PM · #63 |
| uff!!!!! always the same problem, securely i will submit the wrong image! a photo with the subject gray or a real black and white in colours? |
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02/01/2009 01:31:52 PM · #64 |
| I'm in, it's in colour, it's grey, it's going to get hammered, and I don't care cuz I like it :) |
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02/01/2009 01:36:40 PM · #65 |
I'm conflicted...I have one in, but I highly doubt it'll do well...I may pull it.
ETA: It's been pulled.
Message edited by author 2009-02-01 14:44:41. |
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02/01/2009 01:44:46 PM · #66 |
Im in and it was NOT easy. hahahah. It was hard to pick a picture where the voters wont think it was edited to grey. I am still not sure they wont but hey I like it and its my fav of all of them I had to choose from so in it goes!
Good luck everyone! |
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02/01/2009 02:15:15 PM · #67 |
All righty Soul.
I did a shot, it is grey its pretty boring, but technically it is pretty perfect. Just boring.
It is harder than it looks and it made a lot of people stand up and take notice, so well done on that,
now NEVER suggest anything again!!!!!!!!!!
hehehehe =oP |
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