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12/23/2008 02:57:38 PM · #1 |
| I just cant figure that one out when I read the 'basic' editing rules. Anyone have clarity on this issue? |
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12/23/2008 03:02:10 PM · #2 |
Amazingly enough, the answer is "Yes".
While shadow/highlight is photoshop's answer to "tone mapping", Site Council have determined that they are apparently built on different principles, and S/H is 'legal' in 'basic' editing. It's been a subject of intense debate.
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12/23/2008 03:16:57 PM · #3 |
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
Amazingly enough, the answer is "Yes".
While shadow/highlight is photoshop's answer to "tone mapping", Site Council have determined that they are apparently built on different principles, and S/H is 'legal' in 'basic' editing. It's been a subject of intense debate.
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Yes I notice that in this thread: //www.dpchallenge.com/forum.php?action=read&FORUM_THREAD_ID=690158
So it was resolved then and it's ok?
But tonemapping is not. You saw my question in the other thread about tonemapping and creating 2 pseudo images from one original out of camera by adjusting exposure.
Ps. Using CURVES is allowed I presume? One can create some weird stuff just using curves alone.
Message edited by author 2008-12-23 15:24:34. |
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12/23/2008 03:28:12 PM · #4 |
Originally posted by ThingFish:
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
Amazingly enough, the answer is "Yes".
While shadow/highlight is photoshop's answer to "tone mapping", Site Council have determined that they are apparently built on different principles, and S/H is 'legal' in 'basic' editing. It's been a subject of intense debate.
R. |
Yes I notice that in this thread: //www.dpchallenge.com/forum.php?action=read&FORUM_THREAD_ID=690158
So it was resolved then and it's ok?
But tonemapping is not. You saw my question in the other thread about tonemapping and creating 2 pseudo images from one original out of camera by adjusting exposure. |
Correct, it is resolved. I use it all the time.
Be aware that your question re: Photomatix involved making 2 "originals" from a single exposure and merging them for expanded dynamic range. That is absolutely not 'legal' in 'basic' editing, no matter how you slice it up it involves layering of 2 (or more) images, whether in PS manually (which is a no-no) or in photomatix automatically, which is still a non-no.
More to the point, some of us used to tone map single, unlayered 16-bit bit images in photomatix and then finish them in photoshop and enter them in 'basic' challenges. SC decided that this was not acceptable, that tone mapped images circumvent the editing rules (in 'basic'), so we can't do that anymore (in 'basic').
Shadow/highlight is still ok, though. Knock yourself out!
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12/23/2008 04:05:14 PM · #5 |
| Thanks for the clear answers Bear-Music. One last question...what about using curves? Allowed? |
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12/23/2008 04:06:51 PM · #6 |
Originally posted by ThingFish:
Thanks for the clear answers Bear-Music. One last question...what about using curves? Allowed? |
Yes.
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12/23/2008 04:07:59 PM · #7 |
Originally posted by ThingFish:
Thanks for the clear answers Bear-Music. One last question...what about using curves? Allowed? |
Absolutely, as long as you use curves on the entire image at once, and not on selected portions of it. The cardinal rule of 'basic' editing is that you can NEVER work on selected portions of an image.
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12/23/2008 05:36:12 PM · #8 |
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12/23/2008 05:46:30 PM · #9 |
Not to hijack the OPs thread, but what about this technique? I would assume it 'legal' in 'basic' because you cannot have a new layer up to use it and it makes changes globally on the entire image. It's not true HDR, but I believe it is an advanced shadow/highlight control with the way it works.
Downside: You must have CS3 or higher to use it. |
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