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08/03/2008 03:22:25 AM · #51 |
Well, so far I'm still getting used to the new filtering menu. It's growing on me, I guess. I like that I can now easily combine the camera and lens metadata filters with others.
I REALLY like the camera calibration profiles. I've set "Adobe Standard beta 1" as my new default. I really like it's color rendition compared to the "ACR 4.4" profile. I think the "Camera vivid beta 1" is a little too harsh compared to my own D80's vivid setting; I prefer The "Adobe Standard" plus bumping the Vibrance and Saturation up a bit.
Really love the spot editing, and I've even used the "skin smoother" on some modeling shots I did last week -- that's mighty cool. Here is a link to a cool video on how to use LR2 for portrait retouching. It was mentioned on the Killer Tips web site.
Smart collections are long overdue; I use them in all my theatre catalogs now -- I was already building collections based on keyword+rating as it was, so just "plugging in" those numbers really makes that collection maintenance easy as pie now.
Anyone else have any thoughts so far?
Message edited by author 2008-08-03 03:25:48. |
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08/03/2008 07:58:51 AM · #52 |
Originally posted by cdrice:
Photoshop was built as an image editor from the ground up. It's meant primarily to edit digital images. It also integrates with tools like Adobe Camera Raw to process raw images. It has library and workflow management components that have been added to it over time and that you can purchase others on top of it (including Lightroom itself) to provide greater library and metadata management.
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What do you mean exactly? You can have third party add-on to better manage the library in LR? Do you have examples? I sure would be interested. :) |
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08/03/2008 04:21:27 PM · #53 |
Originally posted by Alain:
Originally posted by cdrice:
Photoshop was built as an image editor from the ground up. It's meant primarily to edit digital images. It also integrates with tools like Adobe Camera Raw to process raw images. It has library and workflow management components that have been added to it over time and that you can purchase others on top of it (including Lightroom itself) to provide greater library and metadata management.
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What do you mean exactly? You can have third party add-on to better manage the library in LR? Do you have examples? I sure would be interested. :) |
I'm not sure if you're just poking fun at my poor grammar and run-on sentences, ;) but I meant that for Photoshop (CSx, etc), you can add external tools (such as Lightroom) to provide (better or at least different) catalog management.
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08/03/2008 04:29:43 PM · #54 |
Originally posted by cdrice:
I'm not sure if you're just poking fun at my poor grammar and run-on sentences, ;) but I meant that for Photoshop (CSx, etc), you can add external tools (such as Lightroom) to provide (better or at least different) catalog management. |
Don't worry, I was not poking fun... English is not my main language, so I was not sure what you were saying. Thanks for the answer.
I asked, because I like Lightroom but I'm not sure if I should use it as my main catalog.
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08/03/2008 11:14:31 PM · #55 |
Originally posted by theSaj:
What about HDR images? Don't you need CS3 for Lightroom to be able to do HDR? Or am I mistaken?
Also, what exactly does "Volume Support" mean? I'd love a "Vault" feature where I could dump onto my NAS. Pull them over, edit, and return them to the NAS vault.
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08/04/2008 12:30:06 AM · #56 |
Originally posted by theSaj:
What about HDR images? Don't you need CS3 for Lightroom to be able to do HDR? Or am I mistaken? |
I believe you do need CS3 for HDR.
Originally posted by theSaj:
Also, what exactly does "Volume Support" mean? I'd love a "Vault" feature where I could dump onto my NAS. Pull them over, edit, and return them to the NAS vault.
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It means you can store photos on external drives and if they aren't connected, it's smart enough to tell you that. When you are re-connected, you're back in action. I don't think it pulls them over to work on them so it might be slower on a NAS, but it would work. I actually tried to cover this in more detail on my blog here: //www.digitalnotions.net/adobe-lightroom-2-released/
On another note, for those who haven't tried they yet the new Camera Profiles are awesome! They add a whole new dimension to things as they mimic the in-camera modes (at their default settings).
I took the time to do some comparisons and posted them here.
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08/04/2008 12:46:45 AM · #57 |
Originally posted by mjwood0:
On another note, for those who haven't tried they yet the new Camera Profiles are awesome! They add a whole new dimension to things as they mimic the in-camera modes (at their default settings).
I took the time to do some comparisons and posted them here. |
Nice work on the writeup.
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08/04/2008 12:59:28 AM · #58 |
Originally posted by dwterry:
Originally posted by mjwood0:
On another note, for those who haven't tried they yet the new Camera Profiles are awesome! They add a whole new dimension to things as they mimic the in-camera modes (at their default settings).
I took the time to do some comparisons and posted them here. |
Nice work on the writeup. |
Thanks. I figured that I was going to go through most of them anyway, I might as well put it out on the web for others to gain from too.
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08/04/2008 08:13:17 AM · #59 |
Thanks  mjwood0 |
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08/04/2008 08:26:31 AM · #60 |
I just updated my macs to 10.5 and now my Extensis Portfolio 8.0 DAM doesn't work correctly. I can upgrade to 8.5 for $99. Since my wife is a teacher I can get LR 2.0 for the same price. My question is is Lightroom a decent DAM, as I could care less about its editing as I use CS3/ACR in my current workflow. Also I have about 45,000 images in my Portfolio database, all keyworded. Will LR 2.0 import my keywords? I can't see them when I look at EXIF info in Bridge. Thanks in advance.
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08/04/2008 08:55:42 AM · #61 |
Once you try it (LR instead of CS3/ACR), you'll never go back. :-)
I don't know about your portfolio database... you could try asking on Adobe's support forums.
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08/04/2008 09:48:24 AM · #62 |
Originally posted by hyperfocal:
I just updated my macs to 10.5 and now my Extensis Portfolio 8.0 DAM doesn't work correctly. I can upgrade to 8.5 for $99. Since my wife is a teacher I can get LR 2.0 for the same price. My question is is Lightroom a decent DAM, as I could care less about its editing as I use CS3/ACR in my current workflow. Also I have about 45,000 images in my Portfolio database, all keyworded. Will LR 2.0 import my keywords? I can't see them when I look at EXIF info in Bridge. Thanks in advance. |
I think it really depends how Extensis Portfolio was saving your keywords. If it puts them in teh EXIF data, Lightroom should read them.
Download the 30 day trial and see. If you like it and purchase a registration, all you have to do is enter the code and keep using it. Worth a shot I guess. |
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08/04/2008 09:53:44 AM · #63 |
Originally posted by theSaj:
Thanks mjwood0 |
No problem. I've used Lightroom since it came out and this new version is fantastic for what I do. Going back to Photoshop + ACR just seems clunky -- as does Adobe Bridge.
The real issue I have with Photoshop + ACR is that it doesn't save the actual RAW photos. You have to choose the RAW profile to use when you import it into PS and after that, you can't change it unless you re-import but then you lose any changes.
From the link I posted to earlier with my experience with the new ACR profiles, I could do it all by just clicking on each individual ACR Profile and saving as a JPG. Easy, fast and allows me to change my mind at any time -- plus, it preserves the edits I've made. |
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08/04/2008 10:07:29 AM · #64 |
Originally posted by mjwood0:
... with the new ACR profiles, I could do it all by just clicking on each individual ACR Profile and saving as a JPG. Easy, fast and allows me to change my mind at any time -- plus, it preserves the edits I've made. |
Yes, I love that you can play with profiles after-the-fact. I just hate putting work into an image only to back up and start over. LR is just perfect the way it lets you turn individual edits on and off.
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08/04/2008 12:45:05 PM · #65 |
Wow! If you're a student, this looks like a heckuva deal... Photoshop CS3 Extended plus Lightroom 2.0 for $389.95.
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08/04/2008 01:06:28 PM · #66 |
Not bad at all!! When I read it though, Would not ANYONE with a kid in school qualify?? Seems like it when I read the eligibility rules. Also - Are these cut down versions or are they the real deal?
It would be cheaper for me to buy complete at that price then upgrade :-/
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08/04/2008 01:51:02 PM · #67 |
How hard to they really check for qualified individuals?
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08/04/2008 02:00:48 PM · #68 |
Do you need PS CS3/Extended?
I thought that was really for 3D integration? Might be a lot cheaper to get the basic PS CS3 |
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08/04/2008 02:31:05 PM · #69 |
Most of the educational licenses are written so that you cannot do any commercial work. In other words, you're not allowed to use them for any work you will make a profit on.
I'm not sure how hard they look, but I wouldn't risk it if you do anything commercial. Buying necessary software (and hardware for that matter) is just a cost of doing business. |
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08/04/2008 03:09:52 PM · #70 |
| I have 'educational' licenses for about 6 different Adobe products because of my job. Additionally, I have purchased licenses through the University and through Adobe for personal use with an educational discount (lightroom is $99 with Ed discount on adobe.com). The licensing is related to distribution, not to use. I have single licenses, student licenses, concurrent licenses... But, in all cases I cannot resell the product or duplicate the product. It doesn't control what I produce with the product. |
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08/04/2008 04:20:27 PM · #71 |
Originally posted by dahkota:
I have 'educational' licenses for about 6 different Adobe products because of my job. Additionally, I have purchased licenses through the University and through Adobe for personal use with an educational discount (lightroom is $99 with Ed discount on adobe.com). The licensing is related to distribution, not to use. I have single licenses, student licenses, concurrent licenses... But, in all cases I cannot resell the product or duplicate the product. It doesn't control what I produce with the product. |
So it would appear on Adobe's site that the discounted sale price is the burden of the reseller and not of those that purchase the software. That is even if I am not a student but purchase it at an educational discount I can still use it for what ever I want and it would be the person that sold it to me that bears the responsiblity to compinsate Adobe. That is a unique thing in our world, the fact that not everything is the customers fault.
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08/04/2008 04:26:17 PM · #72 |
Originally posted by theSaj:
Do you need PS CS3/Extended?
I thought that was really for 3D integration? Might be a lot cheaper to get the basic PS CS3 |
They don't sell educational licenses for the basic CS3. Only extended.
Places like Academic Superstore do check. You need to be a student. That said, however, it isn't that hard (or expensive) to become a student. You just have to pick the right school. |
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08/05/2008 11:37:33 AM · #73 |
Any other Aperture users looking here and considering a move? The 40D RAW processing in Aperture is weak so I downloaded the trial of Lightroom and so far it's pretty impressive.
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08/05/2008 11:58:19 AM · #74 |
| Just a tip I noticed in lightroom 2.0. A lot of people, including myself, have had an issue with lightroom bogging down when using the brushes. I have 4G of memory and I have heard of others who have much more than that with the same issue. I found that I get no slow down or hanging if I paint the area first with no adjustments and then after I have applied the mask, make the changes to area via the sliders. It has made it a lot less frustrating and less time consuming. Hopefully this is something Adobe will be addressing. All that said I really like 2.0 so far, the new Clarify slider is very cool b/c you can go negative values with it creating a blur like effect. |
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08/05/2008 02:04:53 PM · #75 |
Cool, thanks for the tip. I just figured the slowdown was because they haven't had time to optimize it yet and that future releases would be snappier. I'll give your idea a shot and see how it goes.
Hah.. I noticed clarify went negative, couldn't even think of "what for". Makes sense. Thanks!
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