Woot! Adobe Lightroom 2.0 Released!

10/03/2008 09:58:09 AM · #1

Anyone have the new camera calibration profiles working in 2.1RC?

I lost them when I installed the update. I tried reinstalling them, but it didn't work. I think they were a GREAT feature!

I do have another bug to report (it was in 2.0). The custom file naming editor doesn't allow you to put spaces in like LR 1.0. If you try putting a space between custome fields, it removes them as soon as you move your cursor. The workaround I've found is to go into the settings file directly and add them in. But it's inconvenient, because you have to find the file, edit it, quit LR and start it again to make a change.

Overall, LR2 is great! I just wish it supported PS plugins.

(Edited: Found that they wanted bug reports in the forums...)

Message edited by author 2008-10-03 10:00:58.

Medoomi

Canon EOS-5D Mark III

Canon EF 35mm f/1.4L USM

09/30/2008 11:34:09 AM · #2

Originally posted by dwterry:

Originally posted by Medoomi:
nice new avatar David!!!

dirt_diver made me do it. :)

lol!!!

Originally posted by Medoomi:

One of the guys at Adobe said if you wish the feature, to put in the feature request (previous link above), so if you want, that would add weight to the request...

Already done.

Cool.

09/30/2008 12:30:45 AM · #3

Originally posted by Medoomi:

nice new avatar David!!!

dirt_diver made me do it. :)

Originally posted by Medoomi:

One of the guys at Adobe said if you wish the feature, to put in the feature request (previous link above), so if you want, that would add weight to the request...

Already done.

Medoomi

Canon EOS-5D Mark III

Canon EF 35mm f/1.4L USM

09/30/2008 12:12:41 AM · #4

nice new avatar David!!!

Yes, I know what you mean, though I think the original style a little more classy, especially when it recovers color/blown highlights of the background (rather than greying them out).

One of the guys at Adobe said if you wish the feature, to put in the feature request (previous link above), so if you want, that would add weight to the request...

09/29/2008 11:04:24 PM · #5

Originally posted by Medoomi:

Loving the new Lightroom.

However, has anyone else gotten annoyed with the different effect used in the vignette after crop tool? Instead of exposure adjustment, it's a black/white mask...

Here's calling for bug reports/feature requests: here

I agree with you. But there are times when I like it. I would wish for the "method" it uses to be optional/selectable.

Medoomi

Canon EOS-5D Mark III

Canon EF 35mm f/1.4L USM

09/29/2008 10:40:34 PM · #6

muckpond

Sigma 15mm f/2.8 EX Diagonal Fisheye for Nikon

08/18/2008 02:26:18 PM · #7

oh, it's those three most beautiful words in the world: OUT FOR DELIVERY

with my freshly-installed 4Gb of RAM, i get to be a lightroom 2.0 nerd tonight. woo wooooooooooooo!

Nusbaum

Fujifilm X-T1

Canon EF 50mm f/1.4 USM

08/06/2008 11:37:31 AM · #8

Originally posted by mjwood0:

Have you tried it in the 30-day trial of Lightroom?

I just added an image from Lightroom, with the default camera profile, to my previous post. That ability to have camera profiles is a distinct advantage for LR.

Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS USM

08/06/2008 08:11:10 AM · #9

Have you tried it in the 30-day trial of Lightroom?

If I were you, I'd install that and the new camera profiles from Adobe and play with the profiles. See if there is one you like. It's quick, easy and there are instructions on my blog for using the color profiles.

Good luck!

My findings are that no RAW converter is perfect for all photos. That's one of the reasons I really like Lightroom and how it allows me to switch color profiles. Still not perfect, but it does give me some options.

Nusbaum

Fujifilm X-T1

Canon EF 50mm f/1.4 USM

08/05/2008 10:58:39 PM · #10

Originally posted by theSaj:

Originally posted by Nusbaum:
Any other Aperture users looking here and considering a move? The 40D RAW processing in Aperture is weak so I downloaded the trial of Lightroom and so far it's pretty impressive.

Can you explain in what way it is weak?

Your question prompted some testing and ultimately even more confusion. I started with an image that isn't perfectly exposed and seems to push some boundaries for the raw conversion tools. I imported the RAW image into DPP and Aperture and then exported to a web sized jpeg without any adjustments. I then launched the image in PS from Aperture and exported directly from there.
DPP -> [thumb]707391[/thumb] Aperture -> [thumb]707392[/thumb] Aperture and then PS -> [thumb]707404[/thumb] Lightroom -> [thumb]707508[/thumb]

There is a definite bug in the Aperture conversion that will create blotching cyan patches in overexposed areas, like around a light bulb. It's not obvious in one image, but compared to the 30D images in Aperture, the 40D images need more contrast added and more tweaking to get pleasing skin tones. Maybe it's not as weak as I was thought, but there is definitely more work required than with the 30D.

Message edited by author 2008-08-06 11:34:53.

theSaj

Canon EOS-20D

08/05/2008 04:48:11 PM · #11

Originally posted by Nusbaum:

Any other Aperture users looking here and considering a move? The 40D RAW processing in Aperture is weak so I downloaded the trial of Lightroom and so far it's pretty impressive.

Can you explain in what way it is weak?

Canon EF 16-35mm f/2.8L USM

08/05/2008 02:04:53 PM · #12

Cool, thanks for the tip. I just figured the slowdown was because they haven't had time to optimize it yet and that future releases would be snappier. I'll give your idea a shot and see how it goes.

Hah.. I noticed clarify went negative, couldn't even think of "what for". Makes sense. Thanks!

trevytrev

Canon EOS-5D

08/05/2008 11:58:19 AM · #13

Just a tip I noticed in lightroom 2.0. A lot of people, including myself, have had an issue with lightroom bogging down when using the brushes. I have 4G of memory and I have heard of others who have much more than that with the same issue. I found that I get no slow down or hanging if I paint the area first with no adjustments and then after I have applied the mask, make the changes to area via the sliders. It has made it a lot less frustrating and less time consuming. Hopefully this is something Adobe will be addressing. All that said I really like 2.0 so far, the new Clarify slider is very cool b/c you can go negative values with it creating a blur like effect.

Nusbaum

Fujifilm X-T1

Canon EF 50mm f/1.4 USM

08/05/2008 11:37:33 AM · #14

Any other Aperture users looking here and considering a move? The 40D RAW processing in Aperture is weak so I downloaded the trial of Lightroom and so far it's pretty impressive.

Ann

Olympus OM-D E-M1

Olympus 12-40mm f/2.8 Pro

08/04/2008 04:26:17 PM · #15

Originally posted by theSaj:

Originally posted by dwterry:
Wow! If you're a student, this looks like a heckuva deal... Photoshop CS3 Extended plus Lightroom 2.0 for $389.95.

Do you need PS CS3/Extended?

I thought that was really for 3D integration? Might be a lot cheaper to get the basic PS CS3

They don't sell educational licenses for the basic CS3. Only extended.

Places like Academic Superstore do check. You need to be a student. That said, however, it isn't that hard (or expensive) to become a student. You just have to pick the right school.

CraigD

Sony DSLR-A900

Lensbaby Composer

08/04/2008 04:20:27 PM · #16

Originally posted by dahkota:

I have 'educational' licenses for about 6 different Adobe products because of my job. Additionally, I have purchased licenses through the University and through Adobe for personal use with an educational discount (lightroom is $99 with Ed discount on adobe.com). The licensing is related to distribution, not to use. I have single licenses, student licenses, concurrent licenses... But, in all cases I cannot resell the product or duplicate the product. It doesn't control what I produce with the product.

So it would appear on Adobe's site that the discounted sale price is the burden of the reseller and not of those that purchase the software. That is even if I am not a student but purchase it at an educational discount I can still use it for what ever I want and it would be the person that sold it to me that bears the responsiblity to compinsate Adobe. That is a unique thing in our world, the fact that not everything is the customers fault.

dahkota

Canon EOS-7D

Canon EF 17-40mm f/4L USM

08/04/2008 03:09:52 PM · #17

Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS USM

08/04/2008 02:31:05 PM · #18

Most of the educational licenses are written so that you cannot do any commercial work. In other words, you're not allowed to use them for any work you will make a profit on.

I'm not sure how hard they look, but I wouldn't risk it if you do anything commercial. Buying necessary software (and hardware for that matter) is just a cost of doing business.

theSaj

Canon EOS-20D

08/04/2008 02:00:48 PM · #19

Originally posted by dwterry:

Wow! If you're a student, this looks like a heckuva deal... Photoshop CS3 Extended plus Lightroom 2.0 for $389.95.

Do you need PS CS3/Extended?

I thought that was really for 3D integration? Might be a lot cheaper to get the basic PS CS3

CraigD

Sony DSLR-A900

Lensbaby Composer

08/04/2008 01:51:02 PM · #20

Originally posted by Ram21:

Originally posted by muckpond:
yay! need to buy RAM and wait for it to show up at academic superstore! yay!

It is now here :)
Academic Superstore

How hard to they really check for qualified individuals?

robs

Canon EOS R6 Mk II

Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS

08/04/2008 01:06:28 PM · #21

Originally posted by dwterry:

Wow! If you're a student, this looks like a heckuva deal... Photoshop CS3 Extended plus Lightroom 2.0 for $389.95.

Not bad at all!! When I read it though, Would not ANYONE with a kid in school qualify?? Seems like it when I read the eligibility rules. Also - Are these cut down versions or are they the real deal?

It would be cheaper for me to buy complete at that price then upgrade :-/

08/04/2008 12:45:05 PM · #22

Wow! If you're a student, this looks like a heckuva deal... Photoshop CS3 Extended plus Lightroom 2.0 for $389.95.

08/04/2008 10:07:29 AM · #23

Originally posted by mjwood0:

... with the new ACR profiles, I could do it all by just clicking on each individual ACR Profile and saving as a JPG. Easy, fast and allows me to change my mind at any time -- plus, it preserves the edits I've made.

Yes, I love that you can play with profiles after-the-fact. I just hate putting work into an image only to back up and start over. LR is just perfect the way it lets you turn individual edits on and off.

08/04/2008 09:53:44 AM · #24

Originally posted by theSaj:

Thanks mjwood0

No problem. I've used Lightroom since it came out and this new version is fantastic for what I do. Going back to Photoshop + ACR just seems clunky -- as does Adobe Bridge.

The real issue I have with Photoshop + ACR is that it doesn't save the actual RAW photos. You have to choose the RAW profile to use when you import it into PS and after that, you can't change it unless you re-import but then you lose any changes.

From the link I posted to earlier with my experience with the new ACR profiles, I could do it all by just clicking on each individual ACR Profile and saving as a JPG. Easy, fast and allows me to change my mind at any time -- plus, it preserves the edits I've made.