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03/30/2004 03:07:28 PM · #1 |
I have begun to play with Neatimage. i also use PS 7.
So when to use neatimage? First (before PS) or last (after PS). I have the demo version, so it can only save as JPG, so th eimage will suffer some either way.
Anyone have thoughts or expereince on this one?
thanks,
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03/30/2004 03:19:23 PM · #2 |
Definitely as your first step. I encourage you to look into either getting some ready-made noise profiles for your camera or make your own. There should be instructions on how to do this. It involves taking photos at each ISO and lighting conditions of a Macbeth color chart and using those images to create the proper noise profiles. You wil get the best results this way and save time too. Starting your editing with as clean an image as possible is the best way to go, IMHO.
T
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03/30/2004 03:27:31 PM · #3 |
I DL'd noise profiles for my camera already. Got em for all the ISO's as the max resolution each. That should suffice for 99% of what i do.
Most of the time the noise is not to bothersome, but last night tried some shots of my son and dog with my house in the near background, a white clapboard house, near sunset. His face and the house were unexpectedly and annoyingly noisy. I ran NI after my ither editing and then got to wondering...
Ill have to make it a regular part of my 'workflow' as it did a great job.
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03/30/2004 03:31:18 PM · #4 |
| Hmm, I agree with this as long as your adjustments in PS are quite subtle. Often, after an extreme levels adjustment such as bringing out shadow detail, or a saturation shift, or an extreme colours adjustment you will find yourself with much more noise than you started with. After these adjustments is the best time from NeatImage IMO. Definitely try to run NeatImage before resizing down, otherwise you are restricted in your selection options within NeatImage. Also, some of the artifacting that NeatImage can produce will be eradicated after the resize. In my experience, sharpening should be done after NeatImage or you run the risk of sharpening some of your noise. |
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03/30/2004 04:29:23 PM · #5 |
Originally posted by bestagents:
I DL'd noise profiles for my camera already. Got em for all the ISO's as the max resolution each. That should suffice for 99% of what i do.
Most of the time the noise is not to bothersome, but last night tried some shots of my son and dog with my house in the near background, a white clapboard house, near sunset. His face and the house were unexpectedly and annoyingly noisy. I ran NI after my ither editing and then got to wondering...
Ill have to make it a regular part of my 'workflow' as it did a great job.
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where do you download the profiles from?
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03/30/2004 05:14:45 PM · #6 |
Originally posted by timj351:
Definitely as your first step. I encourage you to look into either getting some ready-made noise profiles for your camera or make your own. There should be instructions on how to do this. It involves taking photos at each ISO and lighting conditions of a Macbeth color chart and using those images to create the proper noise profiles. You wil get the best results this way and save time too. Starting your editing with as clean an image as possible is the best way to go, IMHO.
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Actually you don't even need a colour chart - the instructions describe using a grey scale target that I found worked really well.
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03/30/2004 05:50:21 PM · #7 |
You might be right Gordan. This was the method I used for profiling my camera in Noise Ninja. I printed out and photographed the color chart from a file they provided. It appeared that noise varied depending on which colors were captured. Anyways, it worked quite well for me. Maybe it would be the same with a gray card and maybe I will test it out sometime but... if it aint broke...
T
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03/30/2004 08:04:09 PM · #8 |
Originally posted by hsteg:
where do you download the profiles from?
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Lots of camera profiles are available from this page on the Neat Image site. If your camera isn't there it has instructions to make one, it's not difficult. |
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03/30/2004 09:08:41 PM · #9 |
| Which NeatImage profile should I use when working with TIFF files? I have a Canon 10D camera, so I downloaded all of the profiles for the 10D, but they're either for RAW or JPG files. I haven't upgraded to Photoshop CS yet, so I can't edit the RAW images. I convert the RAW files to 48-bit TIFFs, edit the TIFFs in NeatImage and Photoshop 6.0, and then save as JPG for uploading. Should I use the JPG or RAW profile to edit the TIFFs? What's the difference? |
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