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12/08/2008 07:53:22 PM · #176
Originally posted by ryand:

I had one more quick question. If a sunpak flash is "dedicated" for nikon, can I still use it manually on the cactus trigger with my canon?


YES if you are going to use it off camera.
12/08/2008 07:54:43 PM · #177
Thanks for the help, very much appreciated.
12/10/2008 09:42:20 PM · #178
I am looking for some lighting stuff and though maybe you guys could help me out.
1)One of those brackets that hold the flash and an umbrella or softbox that will attach to a tripod or light stand.
2)A softbox, i saw the one by AB for 39.95 or smaller one for 29.95. Any other suggestions? Ebay deals that you guys think are alright?
3)One of my V2s triggers broke where the mount is but it still sends a pulse and syncs fine. I want to use a cord that hangs from that flash that connects the trigger and my SB-25. I think I need a pc sync cord, but I am not sure exactly what I looking for.
Any help would be appreciated. Links would be great. I am hoping to make a list of stuff to send to family for christmas. :) Not looking for top of the line stuff just quality.
Thanks for any help. :)
Joe
12/10/2008 09:52:24 PM · #179
Well I ordered the Cactus triggers and will update with a review once they arrive. I figured $75 for transmitter and 3 receivers is worth trying.

To try and help you [user]jdhannels[/user] here is a link for the umbrella bracket:

B&H Photo

Just make sure to place a piece of electrical tape over the aluminum shoe mount for the flash

12/10/2008 09:55:32 PM · #180
Originally posted by jdannels:

3)One of my V2s triggers broke where the mount is but it still sends a pulse and syncs fine. I want to use a cord that hangs from that flash that connects the trigger and my SB-25. I think I need a pc sync cord, but I am not sure exactly what I looking for.


You could try cheap ebay ones, supposedly they work pretty well.

I imagine there are better brands of that same idea that might be a better route.

This might be what you are looking for for brackets, not sure, if not, check out that section on B&H. (eta: same as posted by James).

Hope thats helpful.

Message edited by author 2008-12-10 21:56:58.
12/10/2008 09:59:36 PM · #181
Originally posted by jdannels:

I am looking for some lighting stuff and though maybe you guys could help me out.
1)One of those brackets that hold the flash and an umbrella or softbox that will attach to a tripod or light stand.
2)A softbox, i saw the one by AB for 39.95 or smaller one for 29.95. Any other suggestions? Ebay deals that you guys think are alright?
3)One of my V2s triggers broke where the mount is but it still sends a pulse and syncs fine. I want to use a cord that hangs from that flash that connects the trigger and my SB-25. I think I need a pc sync cord, but I am not sure exactly what I looking for.
Any help would be appreciated. Links would be great. I am hoping to make a list of stuff to send to family for christmas. :) Not looking for top of the line stuff just quality.
Thanks for any help. :)
Joe


I recently picked up two of these it has this and then one of the standard brackets. I bought two of these to use with my 580EXII's. I also have a set of brolly box umbrellas from AB link that I also use to make larger light source and then just use the mount I linked earlier. I prefer the larger one as it makes a softer light.

Matt
12/10/2008 11:35:18 PM · #182
Thanks everyone for the responses they were all helpful. I think I wasn't clear on the sync cable though.
I posted a photo of the cable I am looking for. If anyone can point me in the right direction that would be appreciated. :)

I was thinking that I could have a cable that connects and then attach the lens to the impact swivel mount.
Do these light brackets attach to a regular tripod thread or should I find some cheap light stands too? Thanks again. Very helpful stuff!

12/10/2008 11:46:01 PM · #183
Originally posted by jdannels:

Thanks everyone for the responses they were all helpful. I think I wasn't clear on the sync cable though.
I posted a photo of the cable I am looking for. If anyone can point me in the right direction that would be appreciated. :)

I was thinking that I could have a cable that connects and then attach the lens to the impact swivel mount.
Do these light brackets attach to a regular tripod thread or should I find some cheap light stands too? Thanks again. Very helpful stuff!


Are both of those ends exactly the same? Or is one a male and one a female?

Matt
12/11/2008 12:01:39 AM · #184
Originally posted by MattO:

Originally posted by jdannels:

Thanks everyone for the responses they were all helpful. I think I wasn't clear on the sync cable though.
I posted a photo of the cable I am looking for. If anyone can point me in the right direction that would be appreciated. :)

I was thinking that I could have a cable that connects and then attach the lens to the impact swivel mount.
Do these light brackets attach to a regular tripod thread or should I find some cheap light stands too? Thanks again. Very helpful stuff!


Are both of those ends exactly the same? Or is one a male and one a female?

Matt

oops, what a bad photo to upload, lol. Yes the end you can't see is three pronged male end.
Here is a better photo of the flash.
Thanks for the help
12/11/2008 12:04:34 AM · #185
Originally posted by jdannels:


oops, what a bad photo to upload, lol. Yes the end you can't see is three pronged male end.
Here is a better photo of the flash.
Thanks for the help


OK from what I can tell you just need a PC(male) to PC(male) sync cord. Should be relatively easy to find. I have a male to female here I bought and its wrong, was going to send it to you for free as I cant use it, but you wont need it either. Let me search B&H for you.

Matt

looks like this is what you need.

You actually hook to the lower port on the flash unless someone corrects me. That is a PC sync port.

Message edited by author 2008-12-11 00:07:50.
12/11/2008 12:13:15 AM · #186
Thanks alot Matt. These have been questions holding me back from working more with off camera flash, so once I get all these little bits I will be good to go. :)
Do you recommend getting light stands or just use old tripods?
12/11/2008 12:17:51 AM · #187
Originally posted by jdannels:

Do you recommend getting light stands or just use old tripods?

These have worked well for me - pretty light yet durable, though there are slightly cheaper options.

ETA, I detailed the items I bought in my strobist thread.

Message edited by author 2008-12-11 00:20:42.
12/11/2008 12:18:25 AM · #188
Originally posted by jdannels:

Thanks alot Matt. These have been questions holding me back from working more with off camera flash, so once I get all these little bits I will be good to go. :)
Do you recommend getting light stands or just use old tripods?


I value my 580EXII's so I use the same 13' stands that hold my AB's. I want to have stability, height and most importantly did I mention I like my flashes so I dont want a bit of wind to knock them over? I recommend a good stand with one of the umbrella holders linked earlier, either mine or someone else.

Matt
12/11/2008 12:22:34 AM · #189
Matt, how does that 16x16" flash softbox work for you? I've been tempted to pick one up, though I can't convince myself it'd be any better than my shoot-through umbrella. Maybe a little more mobile?
12/11/2008 12:29:09 AM · #190
Originally posted by smurfguy:

Matt, how does that 16x16" flash softbox work for you? I've been tempted to pick one up, though I can't convince myself it'd be any better than my shoot-through umbrella. Maybe a little more mobile?


I have only been using them for about a week. I absolutely love the results so far. Here are a couple of samples with me playing.



Of course once I get the hang of it they might be better. I got a real bargain on the two
I bought. 16x16 softbox X 2, the little stands, the umbrella mounts, shipped to my door..........$121 :D

Matt
12/11/2008 02:53:53 AM · #191
Another good place to pick up strobist cables etc is from Lon at flash zebra

Flash Zebra

Very pleasant to deal with.
12/11/2008 11:40:00 PM · #192
Joe check your PM in regards to a sync cable.

Matt
12/20/2008 05:59:53 PM · #193
Whoop, whoop, just got my Cactus triggers today (1 transmitter, 2 receivers). I'll post some test shots later today maybe.
12/20/2008 07:15:40 PM · #194
Post up some pics when you get a chance.

Still waiting on mine (1 Transmitter, 3 Receivers) Sure it will take a while coming from China?

I think they will be here either Monday or Tuesday.
12/20/2008 07:27:48 PM · #195
Originally posted by James:

Post up some pics when you get a chance.

Still waiting on mine (1 Transmitter, 3 Receivers) Sure it will take a while coming from China?

I think they will be here either Monday or Tuesday.


yeah i've heard a bunch of crap about them, but so far I've probably tested it a hundred times and it is yet to misfire. One time it did fire one of my flashes every time it recycled even with my camera off. I also electrical taped the battery door tightly on because it was a bit loose. But they work quite well so far, I think you'll enjoy them.
12/20/2008 07:42:55 PM · #196
Alright here are a few shots from a shoot back in October. All flashes triggered either with a Pocket Wizard, or optically.




Set up:
SB-28 into a shoot through umbrella to camera left in front of model and a bare SB-800 to camera right for rim light (not in the photo)





Set up:
Same as before, but with a flag over the model to block sunlight coming through the trees.




Set up:
SB-28 into shoot through umbrella camera left in front of model, two bare flashes for rim lights. One camera left and one camera right. (Rim lights are SB-26 & Sb-800)


( ^ Doin' my thing.)




Set up:
SB-28 into shoot through umbrella camera right for first shot, same for the second, but with a silver reflector added underneath her face for fill.


Message edited by author 2008-12-20 19:59:48.
12/20/2008 07:50:06 PM · #197
Very nice shots man, appreciate you posting the setup as well.
12/20/2008 08:02:25 PM · #198
Originally posted by ryand:

Very nice shots man, appreciate you posting the setup as well.


Thanks! Yea, I love it when others include set up shots. No matter how well they describe their set up, a photo of it always helps more. So I try to get one most of the time, but sometimes in my focus or haste to get the shot and move on I forget.
12/23/2008 11:00:04 PM · #199
Alright, I've hidden from the "light" long enough and will kindly ask for some help. I am really intrigued by the whole "strobist" concept and it makes practical sense for reasons mentioned over and over.

I have the following: Nikon D200, Nikon SB600 and Nikon SB-22s

I need to get the following for certain: Light Stands, Umbrellas, various clamps and bungees.

The part I'm sorta dumb about is whether to get a Nikon SB-800 or to go the route of Pocket Wizards? If I get the SB-800, I'll just have the SB-800 and the SB-600 as my strobes. If I get the Pocket Wizards, I'd need 3 wizards, the SB-600, SB-22s and a hot shoe adapter for the SB-600 as it does not have a flash plug.

Though I understand the SB-800 and SB-600 will have everything built in to do the job of the pocket wizards, I know little of the success utilizing the Nikon Speedlight array versus the proven range and reliability of the Pocket Wizards. The beauty of the Speedlight array is that everything is built in whereas the pocket wizard is just a whole heap of other stuff I need to keep track of.

The cost to go either way will be comparable if I go new but I have a good chance of getting a used SB-800 on eBay for a pretty attractive price.

I'd like to do this right and don't want to look at cheaper alternatives to the Pocket Wizard as I agree, they are proven to be the best. The Nikon Flash system is also rock solid with regards to quality so I think both solutions will provide the best ...... for durability.

The question is simply "which way should I go"?

Please and thanks?

12/24/2008 12:21:05 AM · #200
Right now IMO there are 2 paths to do this.....

* The eTTL/CLS path which needs the more expensive flashes. The logical extension would be the radiopoppers to get radio eTTL for when light communication fails (either bright sunlight, thru objects or distance.... also that bright sunlight is overdone as I think it's better then most realise).

* The cheap manual flash (second hand SB24 types or Vivitar or whatever) with the radio triggers, optical or cables (don't rule out the cables). A mixture or optical and radio/cable works great also. This path is all manual though..... so you lose the fancy TTL operations and the auto adjustments from the camera (apart from Cyber/RP in some cases with PCB lights).

As for the PW's - Personally I think there are better options today IF you don't need to rent gear or play with other photg - because for good or bad PW are still the industry standard and common. IMO the PCB CyberSync are the best options going (get the plus model if you have or plan to also have PCB lights) but the new release of radiopopper jr looks interesting and touted to have a range equal to the PW's.

Welcome to the non dark side :-)
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