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03/15/2004 05:15:36 PM · #1
Portrait - a representation of a person or group or animal on a two-dimensional medium that typically also shows some aspect symbolic of the subject.

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Portraiture is a classic photographic form that typically captures the face of a person.

Someone commented on mine: "This is not a portrait."

I'd like to reply, "That is not subjective."

That is all.
03/15/2004 05:19:41 PM · #2
While we're at it... since when does a portrait have to be "emotional"?

I just looked through my high school yearbook a couple weeks ago, and I saw hundreds of portraits, and none of them were "emotional".

Can somebody provide a dictionary definition that says a "portrait" has to convey "emotion"?

Here are the various definitions that I've found:

1. [n] any likeness of a person; "the photographer made excellent portraits"
2. [n] a painting of a person's face
3. \Por"trait\, n. [F., originally p. p. of portraire to portray. See {Portray}.] The likeness of a person, painted, drawn, or engraved; commonly, a representation of the human face painted from real life.

A portrait is meant to portray a person's likeness.

That is all.

Message edited by author 2004-03-15 17:21:38.
03/15/2004 05:25:40 PM · #3
Eddy, I'd say it doesn't have to be emotional or to capture an emotion BUT that those portraits that do so on top of being aesthetically pleasing or interesting will score more highly than those which simply portray a person's likeness without also conveying more.

That's just my opinion of course.

Malokata, I agree and sympathise.
03/15/2004 05:28:10 PM · #4
I would like to add, it must also portray the subjects face in some part at least.
In my opinion that is,
Paul.
03/15/2004 05:36:24 PM · #5
This is one of those 'met the challenge' vs 'is any good or interesting to look at' discussions.

Many pictures in year books could be considered portraits. Most of them are not very interesting to look at.
03/15/2004 05:40:51 PM · #6
I beg to differ, take a peak at your year book. Wow! Nice hair dos in mine. I actually had a mullet.

Originally posted by Gordon:

This is one of those 'met the challenge' vs 'is any good or interesting to look at' discussions.

Many pictures in year books could be considered portraits. Most of them are not very interesting to look at.

03/15/2004 05:42:38 PM · #7
Originally posted by Malokata:

Someone commented on mine: "This is not a portrait."

I feel your pain! I have a spookily similar comment (and that old favourite "does not meet the challenge") and while I mutter under my breath "well how does THAT comment help me" I knew when I submitted that there'd be a few people who would give me a 1 and a similar comment for failing to have a perfectly framed face in the center of my entry (not, I think, giving too much away!)
03/15/2004 05:46:38 PM · #8
Originally posted by Gordon:

This is one of those 'met the challenge' vs 'is any good or interesting to look at' discussions.

Many pictures in year books could be considered portraits. Most of them are not very interesting to look at.

Mine's interesting to look at (one gorgeous subject, if I do say so myself), but still is getting a low score!?! I mean, ...This shot is absolutely captivating; and who's a better judge of that than me?? Duhhh...;-) <---EDIT:...just in case noone noticed it

Message edited by author 2004-03-15 19:19:56.
03/15/2004 06:06:43 PM · #9
Originally posted by peecee:

I would like to add, it must also portray the subjects face in some part at least.
In my opinion that is,
Paul.


I agree whith you, a simple traditional portrait shows the complete face of the subject, but what about a portrait with hair on the face hiding some parts of the face?, is not tradiotional but still a portrait. isn't it?
03/15/2004 06:29:13 PM · #10
General portraits are not generally pleasing to look at unless you have some knowledge of the subject. Why do I want to see a photo of this person?

Emotional... Eddy is right. A portrait doesn't have to contain any emotion. Since I'm a veiwer who has no knowledge of the subject i'm looking at, I'll just pass it over and give it a mundane score.

The portraits that will draw me in will have some special element about them that makes me take interest in the person. There may also be some special element about the environment in which the photo was made.

I have a comment on mine also that indicates the viewer doesn't consider mine to be a portrait. Everyone has their individual ideas about what a portrait should be. I don't expect to change anyone's opinion of what a portrait is. I have my own ideas about portraits. I also accept that there are more than one type of portrait.
03/15/2004 06:29:55 PM · #11
Originally posted by Jacko:

I beg to differ, take a peak at your year book. Wow! Nice hair dos in mine. I actually had a mullet.


I thought you still had a mullet
03/15/2004 06:31:52 PM · #12
i got DQd...
03/15/2004 06:40:47 PM · #13
Originally posted by hsteg:

i got DQd...


For...?
03/15/2004 07:07:00 PM · #14
Taking a picture of someone elses artwork. I took a picture of a 100 dollar bill, and cropped it to Ben Franklin... It was titled, My Favorite Portrait. I didnt think of it as copying someone elses art work at the time, I was taking the picture.
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