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03/05/2004 02:14:06 PM · #1 |
I LOVE IT!
Drew and his work force did an excellent job at printing these out for me :)
I have it already for the art show/sale this summer.
It only cost about $59.00 for the black wood frame, matte, glass (I forgot to specify non-glare!) and wall mount.
There is a local art decor store that does it for the cost of materials only, no labor charges.
I plan on ordering more wildlife shots and have them framed & matted or just matted for the show/sale.
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03/05/2004 02:19:12 PM · #2 |
Looks awesome! Was that taken at fossil rim (I'm sending my money today!)
you might get less problems using
//www.pbase.com/image/26640627.jpg for the link
On the 'non-glare' front I actually got recommended against using it by a local framer, as the results can often look quite flat.
I quite like using a matte/ pearl finish print under normal glass, particularly for black frames/ mats as it gives a good glossy look.
I tend to pick and choose depending on the picture though.
Message edited by author 2004-03-05 14:21:02.
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03/05/2004 02:32:31 PM · #3 |
Gordon
Thanks! This was taken at the Zoo in Fort Worth.
I will check using that link next time :)
Maybe that is why they did not recommend using the non-glare?
Thanks again!
Originally posted by Gordon: Looks awesome! Was that taken at fossil rim (I'm sending my money today!)
you might get less problems using
//www.pbase.com/image/26640627.jpg for the link
On the 'non-glare' front I actually got recommended against using it by a local framer, as the results can often look quite flat.
I quite like using a matte/ pearl finish print under normal glass, particularly for black frames/ mats as it gives a good glossy look.
I tend to pick and choose depending on the picture though. |
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03/05/2004 03:28:08 PM · #4 |
WOW! That looks really awesome!!! I love the black on black with the white bevel. Excellent!
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03/05/2004 03:33:53 PM · #5 |
Calvus,
That looks excellent :) I just ordered 4 16x24 prints myself and the framing materials to go with it. I'm using a similar framing, but in metal from americanframe.com to set these up with.
You need to finish that one off by titleing the mat on the lower left and signing on the lower right :)
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03/05/2004 03:51:44 PM · #6 |
Originally posted by jmsetzler: You need to finish that one off by titleing the mat on the lower left and signing on the lower right :) |
I have been wondering about that myself. Is that something that a lot of photographers do? Do you just use a pen and write it by hand? What about placement of the title and signature, should they be closer to the photo, or closer to the edge of the mat?
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03/05/2004 04:01:01 PM · #7 |
Thanks John!
I checked out that site and they are great and great prices. But when I found this art decor store it was even better. I may order from them someday never know.
Are you saying put "Leopard" or etc in the lower left and sign my name on the lower right corner? What do you use to do this? Press on foil or do you title it ny hand? I would be afraid of ruining the matte :) I have a silver permanent marker I cou sign it with.
Do you have a snap of one you have done previously you could show us?
Originally posted by jmsetzler: Calvus,
That looks excellent :) I just ordered 4 16x24 prints myself and the framing materials to go with it. I'm using a similar framing, but in metal from americanframe.com to set these up with.
You need to finish that one off by titleing the mat on the lower left and signing on the lower right :) |
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03/05/2004 04:06:01 PM · #8 |
i got an 8x12 matte print of my mosquito shot, and plan on framing that today... DPC PRINTS DID A GREAT JOB.
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03/05/2004 04:06:13 PM · #9 |
HERE is an example of a 16x20 print that I matted and framed. I used a silver paint pen (DecoColor Opaque Paint Marker by Marvy/Uchida - Extra Fine Point from AC Moore ~$2.59) to put "Crabtree Falls" in the lower left and my signature '03 in the lower right.
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03/05/2004 04:14:38 PM · #10 |
A thought occurs - if we are interested in archival printing and framing, I would assume any pens etc would also need to be archival so that the air within the frame doesn't come acidic from the inks ? correct ?
Mostly I haven't cared, assuming that I'd just reprint or replace anything in a few years time anyway - but if I was selling them it is something I might pay more attention to.
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03/05/2004 04:37:10 PM · #11 |
If I lowered the prices on my Leopard posters would anyone even consider buying one, or is it the Leopard that is not appealing?
The reason I priced them as they are now is because I was planning on making a donation to the Zoo in Fort Worth where I took the phots.
8x12=$20.
10x15=$25.
16x24=$30.
John or whoever:
What would be a good price to set on these framed Leopard photos for sale at show?
13.00 = DPC
59.00 = Framed, matted and glassed
+ Time are effort = ??
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03/05/2004 04:39:48 PM · #12 |
Going to be is San Antonio and Austin all weekend testing my new equipment and visiting our sons :) Pray for nice weather please!
Our youngest son is buying a house in San Antonio and wants me to inspect it :)
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03/05/2004 06:21:56 PM · #13 |
Originally posted by Calvus: If I lowered the prices on my Leopard posters would anyone even consider buying one, or is it the Leopard that is not appealing?
The reason I priced them as they are now is because I was planning on making a donation to the Zoo in Fort Worth where I took the phots.
8x12=$20.
10x15=$25.
16x24=$30.
John or whoever:
What would be a good price to set on these framed Leopard photos for sale at show?
13.00 = DPC
59.00 = Framed, matted and glassed
+ Time are effort = ?? |
I guess it depends on your goal.
I sell a matted/framed 16x24 print (22x30 total size) for $225.
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03/05/2004 07:35:38 PM · #14 |
Robin
The lepard posters are really nice I wouldn`t give them away!What a beautiful animal!
Neil
Message edited by author 2004-03-05 19:36:52. |
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03/05/2004 07:50:34 PM · #15 |
Calvus,
John's suggestion of $225 is very reasonable.
I sell 13x19's matted only, for $250.
I'd very likely include a frame if the customer requested it, but prefer to let the customer frame for their enviornment.
The key that I keep being reminded of, as I read post after post after post, asking about pricing, is that it is truly about marketing. Lots of people are capable of being president, but 1 of 2 will likely be the next one. It has nothing to do with "great" photographs and everything to do with selling them. Last night on the Apprentice, some art work sold and some didn't. The lesson was supposed to be..."believe" in what you are selling. "Like" the product. Profit has no room for apologies. Your work is worth every penny. "Ask and you shall receive".
Sorry if I got off preaching, but Robin your work is wonderful. It deserves a "going" rate. If you want to donate or tithe or just plain give it away, that is YOUR business. Just understand how good the work is. Certainly worth a couple of hundred bucks, matted and framed.
Flash
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03/05/2004 11:28:55 PM · #16 |
Flash
I replied to your PM.
Thanks so much for your kind words :)
We often get crtiqued pretty rough in DPC and sometimes forget how nice our work may be. But it is good in that we are forced to constantly improve and not get lazy.
I can't thank everyone enough for the nice compliments.
I always look forward to reading your comments, suggestions and Humor!
Thanks to everyone.
Originally posted by Flash: Calvus,
John's suggestion of $225 is very reasonable.
I sell 13x19's matted only, for $250.
I'd very likely include a frame if the customer requested it, but prefer to let the customer frame for their enviornment.
The key that I keep being reminded of, as I read post after post after post, asking about pricing, is that it is truly about marketing. Lots of people are capable of being president, but 1 of 2 will likely be the next one. It has nothing to do with "great" photographs and everything to do with selling them. Last night on the Apprentice, some art work sold and some didn't. The lesson was supposed to be..."believe" in what you are selling. "Like" the product. Profit has no room for apologies. Your work is worth every penny. "Ask and you shall receive".
Sorry if I got off preaching, but Robin your work is wonderful. It deserves a "going" rate. If you want to donate or tithe or just plain give it away, that is YOUR business. Just understand how good the work is. Certainly worth a couple of hundred bucks, matted and framed.
Flash |
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03/05/2004 11:50:21 PM · #17 |
That is an awesome work of art.
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03/06/2004 07:16:14 AM · #18 |
Calvus that is one groooovy print and set up. Love it. Congrats.
That print looks almost as badass as this one.
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03/06/2004 11:32:46 AM · #19 |
Jacko
Now thats really off the wall!LOL
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03/06/2004 12:56:08 PM · #20 |
Calvus just to echo Gordon's observation on glass. Non glare glass cuts the brilliance of a print or watercolor.As a watercolor student this was driven home by my instructor many years ago. Good luck in San Antonio, lovely area. |
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03/06/2004 01:23:04 PM · #21 |
That is a gorgeous print Calvus. Good Job! I agree completely with all comments made in this thread about titling, signing, and pricing.
Regarding the glass issue, I just had the privilege of accompanying a friend who purchased my work to her art gallery to purchase mat and framing, and learned a couple of things while there. The art gallery strongly recommended using something called Den glass (not sure of the exact name, it might be a brand....). It's not "non-glare", but is very close to it. It doesn't haze the look of the print like a non-glare does. And as such, it doesn't mute the appearance of the colors either.
The art gallery also strongly suggested that art prints should always be signed by the artist. I personally title and sign the white area below the print itself as well as the mat I apply. If the purchaser chooses to remove the mat, then he/she could opt to re-mat with the title and signature on the print showing, but this would require that the white border of your print paper also be visible. In my friend's case, I went back to the art gallery with her so that I could title and sign the mats she purchased. (Oh god! And my work looked soooooo gorgeous, and I was so flattered that my friend would plunk down $200 or more to mat and frame a print of mine! But then again, she's a compulsive spender!)
Regarding the pen used - while at the gallery, I requested a pen because I forgot to bring the one I usually use, and they just handed me a ballpoint pen! Interesting, as I was concerned about the archival ink issue too. No comments were made by the art gallery about this issue, so I guess it might not be a concern acid-wise?
Anyway, for titling and signing, I use one of the following, depending on the mat color: a fine-tip Sharpie black marker, or a silver metallic ink marker.
As an aside: They also showed me how to attach the print to the back of the mat: apply archival tape along the top edge of the print (from corner to corner), and then apply a small piece of tape at each bottom corner. That's it.
Message edited by author 2004-03-06 13:24:05.
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03/06/2004 02:48:02 PM · #22 |
I thought most people recommend attaching the photo to the mat along two adjacent sides, so that it doesn't curl or warp with changes in heat or humidity. |
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03/06/2004 03:34:22 PM · #23 |
The acidity issues bug me. None of my framing is air-tight to begin with. I can't imagine the pen I use to sign anything creating a problem. If my framing was air tight, it could be a different issue. I don't even know how I would begin to do it.
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03/06/2004 04:15:09 PM · #24 |
Most printmakers' prints I've seen are signed/numbered in pencil. |
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03/06/2004 05:32:54 PM · #25 |
how can you sign something glossy in pencil?
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