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03/01/2004 01:44:18 AM · #1 |
I have been thinking of buying one of these two cameras. I cant make up my mind. I like that the 300D is cheaper but I've heard that it has some limitations that the 10D doesn't, but the 10D is more expensive and you add lenses and all, quite a bit of money. I need help.....what to do....what to do!?!?!?
June
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03/01/2004 01:49:09 AM · #2 |
Originally posted by chiqui74:
I have been thinking of buying one of these two cameras. I cant make up my mind. I like that the 300D is cheaper but I've heard that it has some limitations that the 10D doesn't, but the 10D is more expensive and you add lenses and all, quite a bit of money. I need help.....what to do....what to do!?!?!?
June |
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03/01/2004 02:00:08 AM · #3 |
its bery simple!
If you dont have to worry about the money buy the 10D!
If your are on a tight budget get the 300D!
Either way you are very well off ;) Good Luck
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03/01/2004 02:01:09 AM · #4 |
In making your decision I would look at the features that are missing on the 300D that are available on the 10D. If they are important to you then go for the 10D.
From what I have read the following is missing on the Rebel.
1. The exposure metering mode is automatic. You cannot select between spot, evaluative and center weighted
2. There is no mirror lockup - only an issue on long exposures. Apparently it is harsher than on the 10D.
3. White balance has fewer choices and no kelvin adjustment
4. No flash exposure compensation
A review of the Rebel can be found here:
//www.dpreview.com/reviews/canoneos300d/
You can also do a side-by-side comparison:
//www.dpreview.com/reviews/sidebyside.asp
Message edited by author 2004-03-01 02:03:19. |
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03/01/2004 02:10:06 AM · #5 |
If you don't already have Canon lenses, why not look at the Nikon D70 when it comes out at the end of March.
Preview: //www.dpreview.com/articles/nikond70/ |
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03/01/2004 02:11:56 AM · #6 |
Originally posted by cpanaioti:
If you don't already have Canon lenses, why not look at the Nikon D70 when it comes out at the end of March.
Preview: //www.dpreview.com/articles/nikond70/ |
Now that is something I would do if I was on the market for a Camera with no lenses in my pocket
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03/01/2004 03:33:18 AM · #7 |
| As many people have mentioned: there's no use buying an expensive body and skimping on lenses. If you can afford a 10D (or D70) AND some quality lenses, go for that. Otherwise you may find it better to get a 300D and having a few more dollars for lenses. |
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03/01/2004 04:29:28 AM · #8 |
| Don't buy either. Wait for and get the D70. It'll knock you off your socks. I went to a D70 presentation yesterday, used it for 30 minutes and was completely impressed. |
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03/01/2004 09:08:45 AM · #9 |
I think one big question that needs to be answered is... why do you want to upgrade to a DSLR?
If it's just because everybody is, or because that's the next logical step, then I don't think you should upgrade just yet. A DSLR is a huge investment (in glass) and a totally different beast altogether - not as forgiving as a P&S or prosumer like your DiMAGE 7i.
On the other hand, if you feel that you are limited by the capabilities of your current camera, and want a camera that gives you more control and power, then based on your requirements the answer (300D or 10D) should be clear to you already.
:)atwl
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03/01/2004 09:37:52 AM · #10 |
So when is this camera (the D70) really going to hit the market, and when it does, how long should I wait for the second run to hit the market so I'm not getting a first Gen with little mistakes like so many of the first gen cameras seem to have...
I am wanted a new DSLR this summer and the D70 seems to be a great choice over the D10, which I was going to buy used...
I'm still conflicted, but I l;ike what I've read so far, and my only investment in glass is for a 35mm Canon EOS SLR.
And I don't want to get the 300D!
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03/01/2004 10:38:46 AM · #11 |
Maybe if you would like to get rid of your
old Minolda 7i, drop me a note :)
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03/01/2004 10:43:32 AM · #12 |
Originally posted by chiqui74:
I have been thinking of buying one of these two cameras. I cant make up my mind. I like that the 300D is cheaper but I've heard that it has some limitations that the 10D doesn't, but the 10D is more expensive and you add lenses and all, quite a bit of money. I need help.....what to do....what to do!?!?!?
June |
This is repetetive of me, but American Photo [last edition] compared indepth the 10D and 300D and recommended the 300D for photographers wanting a second camera - over the 10D. The only draw back is the body, but it's esthetics [and the fact that other pompous photographers would look down on it], has nothing to do with the mechanics.
Message edited by author 2004-03-01 10:44:36. |
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03/01/2004 10:46:12 AM · #13 |
Very interesting. Why did they recommend the 300D as a second camera?
Originally posted by GoldBerry:
Originally posted by chiqui74:
I have been thinking of buying one of these two cameras. I cant make up my mind. I like that the 300D is cheaper but I've heard that it has some limitations that the 10D doesn't, but the 10D is more expensive and you add lenses and all, quite a bit of money. I need help.....what to do....what to do!?!?!?
June |
This is repetetive of me, but American Photo [last edition] compared indepth the 10D and 300D and recommended the 300D for photographers wanting a second camera - over the 10D. The only draw back is the body, but it's esthetics [and the fact that other pompous photographers would look down on it], has nothing to do with the mechanics. |
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03/01/2004 10:51:04 AM · #14 |
That being a second SLR.
I think everyone agrees that it is a simple task. Get the 10D if you can afford it, if not wait for the D70, and if both of those are not an option then get the 300D.
I keep going back to this, but I really would not buy the 300D purely on the basis that "The exposure metering mode is automatic. You cannot select between spot, evaluative and center weighted "
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03/01/2004 10:52:50 AM · #15 |
Originally posted by Jacko:
Very interesting. Why did they recommend the 300D as a second camera?
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Honestly can't remember specifically, basically comparing image quality and versatility, the way you'd compare cameras normally... they basically were even, I think the 300D won because for the same capabilities it was less than half the price. |
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03/01/2004 10:53:58 AM · #16 |
With the 300D, I think if you hold down the AV+/- button whilst taking the shot it uses spot metering
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03/01/2004 11:01:46 AM · #17 |
Probably buy the 300D as a back up ... image quality wise. No need to dish out bigger $$$ for a back up. That's probably the logic.
Originally posted by GoldBerry:
Originally posted by Jacko:
Very interesting. Why did they recommend the 300D as a second camera?
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Honestly can't remember specifically, basically comparing image quality and versatility, the way you'd compare cameras normally... they basically were even, I think the 300D won because for the same capabilities it was less than half the price. |
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03/01/2004 11:24:33 AM · #18 |
Here's a good 10D vs. 300D article:
//www.cps.canon-europe.com/articles/article.jsp?article.articleId=65005
I decided to get the 10D because I just liked the look&feel better, and since I'll be spending lots of money on lenses and things the price difference wasn't that hard to swallow. I also like to have as much control over everything as I possibly can, so the extra functions are welcome although they weren't such a big factor when deciding.
The head said 300D but the heart said 10D, and I couldn't be happier with my decision.
Message edited by author 2004-03-01 11:26:27.
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03/01/2004 01:37:02 PM · #19 |
Thanks all for your help. I think I'm gonna wait for the D70 to come out and not rush into anything. When I first got my Dimage7i I thought I was the bomb...you know, it was a huge step up from my basic point and shoot Kodak DX4900. Now that I've had it for about a year I know what my camera is capable of and I know it's limitations. The one thing I dont like about it is that the slowest shutter speed is 4 seconds while my Kodak's is 16, not too shabby for a basic camera. Don't get me wrong, I think both my cameras are great in their own way, but I feel that a DSLR is the next logical step. I like the fact that I can interchange lenses, and that comes in handy sometimes, like say...I'm planning on going on a safari in Kenya in July and neither one of my cameras has a powerful enough zoom, or at least one that would satisfy me. But when all is said and done, I know that a better camera doesn't automatically mean better pictures, but like I said, I think it's the next logical step. Thanks once again.
June
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03/01/2004 02:16:01 PM · #20 |
Originally posted by jonpink:
That being a second SLR.
I think everyone agrees that it is a simple task. Get the 10D if you can afford it, if not wait for the D70, and if both of those are not an option then get the 300D.
I keep going back to this, but I really would not buy the 300D purely on the basis that "The exposure metering mode is automatic. You cannot select between spot, evaluative and center weighted " |
Directly Out Of The Digital Rebel Manual:
Evaluative metering:
This is the camera's standard metering mode suited for most subject even under backlit condition. After detecting the main subject's possition, brightess, background, front and back lighting conditions, camera orientation (horizontal or vertical), etc., the camera sets the proper exposure.
Partial metering:
This is set automatically during AE lock in the Creative Zone modes. This is particularly effective when the background is much brighter than the subject due to backlighting, etc. This method uses a center area of approximatley 9% of the screen.
Centerweighted average metering:
This is set automatically in the mode. This metering is weighted at the center and then averaged for the entire scene.
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I must say that I absolutely love my Digital Rebel and all of it's limitations you guys/gals keep pointing out. :-)
Ta-ta!
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03/02/2004 01:26:54 PM · #21 |
OK, so I have been given the great opportunity to try out the 300D for 45 days no strings attached. Of course I took it, so this new toy is sitting right next to me as I type. But I seem to be having a porblem, I cant figure out how to turn the LCD display on!!!! LOL I know this is probably make me sound like some idiot, but I've tried every button I see with no results....Help please!!!!
June
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03/02/2004 01:28:23 PM · #22 |
These cameras don't have lcd preview.
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03/02/2004 01:36:17 PM · #23 |
Thanks. I feel like such an idio :P
June
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03/02/2004 01:42:24 PM · #24 |
June,
The best bet is to read the manual but if you are new to digital SLR as opposed to viewfinder digitals, note that you cannot get a LCD display preview of the image because the image is being projected via the mirror to the eyepiece of the camera. The LCD display is useful for reviewing the images taken and for camera settings only.
Dick
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03/02/2004 02:41:17 PM · #25 |
I'd say that if you don't understand the differences between the 300D and the 10D and how those would impact how you take pictures, then probably you'll find the 300D a wonderful camera. Both produce excellent pictures and can use the same excellent lenses. The differences are really in useability and flexibility of control.
The D70 looks work a look too, seems like a much more fully featured camera for the same price point as the 300D.
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