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01/29/2008 10:27:06 PM · #1
I'm assuming that a gradient layer is legal in basic since it is an adjustment layer, am I right thinking here? If so, can you use a gradient layer for a vignette? Thanks for the help.
01/29/2008 10:31:46 PM · #2
You can use a gradient adjustment layer, but you can't use a mask. Vignetting is not allowed in basic.
01/29/2008 10:32:32 PM · #3
Yes, I asked this question in an earlier thread.


01/29/2008 10:34:48 PM · #4
Originally posted by AperturePriority:

Yes, I asked this question in an earlier thread.

Your thread is asking about Advanced and his is Basic. I don't think it's allowed in Basic, but with the Ruleset changes, I am not sure.
01/29/2008 10:35:12 PM · #5
Originally posted by AperturePriority:

Yes, I asked this question in an earlier thread.


It's legal in advanced, but not in basic editing.
01/29/2008 10:47:43 PM · #6
Originally posted by _eug:

Originally posted by AperturePriority:

Yes, I asked this question in an earlier thread.

Your thread is asking about Advanced and his is Basic. I don't think it's allowed in Basic, but with the Ruleset changes, I am not sure.

Oops! You're right. I must be out of it right now. I need to go have dinner! Whew! ;-)
01/29/2008 11:11:23 PM · #7
Nevermind. It was already mentioned.

Message edited by author 2008-01-29 23:12:22.
01/29/2008 11:12:49 PM · #8
So if I can use a gradient, then I couldn't set it to radial in reverse and lower the opacity of the layer to create the vignette?
01/29/2008 11:27:49 PM · #9
Originally posted by trevytrev:

So if I can use a gradient, then I couldn't set it to radial in reverse and lower the opacity of the layer to create the vignette?


You can't use any editing tool, otherwise legal or not, to create a vignette in Basic. Adding a vignette in Basic will get an image DQ'd every time. Sorry!
01/29/2008 11:35:08 PM · #10
cool, understood. Thanks for the help!
01/29/2008 11:45:44 PM · #11
Originally posted by L2:

Originally posted by trevytrev:

So if I can use a gradient, then I couldn't set it to radial in reverse and lower the opacity of the layer to create the vignette?


You can't use any editing tool, otherwise legal or not, to create a vignette in Basic. Adding a vignette in Basic will get an image DQ'd every time. Sorry!

I'm living proof of that! Look in my portfolio. :-(

01/30/2008 10:28:17 AM · #12
Originally posted by AperturePriority:

I'm living proof of that! Look in my portfolio. :-(

Where's the count of Browns and DQ's in your siggy, boy? ;)
01/30/2008 10:59:35 AM · #13
Originally posted by AperturePriority:


I'm living proof of that! Look in my portfolio. :-(


Only one DQ? What you complainin' about? :-P
01/30/2008 12:54:40 PM · #14
soo.. from what I gather..you can use the gradient tool in basic? No wonder all these basic shots look illegal.

Message edited by author 2008-01-30 12:55:23.
01/30/2008 12:58:04 PM · #15
I don't think gradient tool is legal in basic.
01/30/2008 01:00:43 PM · #16
Originally posted by Sonifo:

soo.. from what I gather..you can use the gradient tool in basic? No wonder all these basic shots look illegal.

No. Not legal in basic. It must be applied UNIFORMLY to the entire image, which would defeat the purpose of using a Gradient.
01/30/2008 01:01:13 PM · #17
Originally posted by frisca:

I don't think gradient tool is legal in basic.

It seems to me that a gradient would be illegal simply because pixels are being treated differently across an image in a specified way (the gradient). QED.
01/30/2008 01:02:39 PM · #18
not to rat out the #2 winner for framed but didn't they use a vignette frame?
01/30/2008 01:02:52 PM · #19
Originally posted by frisca:

I don't think gradient tool is legal in basic.


I'm pretty sure you're right.

I'm also pretty sure the Gradient adjustment layer contains pixel data and would ultimately be DQ'd brought to SC's attention.

Sorry, I already have a few DQ's or I'd test it out ... :-)
01/30/2008 01:04:13 PM · #20
Just to clear things up here - creating a vignette in advanced is ok? it doesnt fall under the "use ANY editing technique to create new image area, objects or features (such as lens flare or motion) that didn’t already exist in your original capture(s)." part of the Advanced ruleset (specifically thinking of image area here)?

I've been pondering this recently and i cant remember how it is thought of...
01/30/2008 01:09:03 PM · #21
Originally posted by inshaala:

Just to clear things up here - creating a vignette in advanced is ok? it doesnt fall under the "use ANY editing technique to create new image area, objects or features (such as lens flare or motion) that didn’t already exist in your original capture(s)." part of the Advanced ruleset (specifically thinking of image area here)?

I've been pondering this recently and i cant remember how it is thought of...

I seem to remember that extreme ignettes have been DQ'd in advanced before, but can't find examples.
01/30/2008 01:09:19 PM · #22
Originally posted by Sonifo:

not to rat out the #2 winner for framed but didn't they use a vignette frame?

Looks like it was caused by the use of the ND filter not software.
01/30/2008 01:33:07 PM · #23
Originally posted by SaraR:

Originally posted by inshaala:

Just to clear things up here - creating a vignette in advanced is ok? it doesnt fall under the "use ANY editing technique to create new image area, objects or features (such as lens flare or motion) that didn’t already exist in your original capture(s)." part of the Advanced ruleset (specifically thinking of image area here)?

I've been pondering this recently and i cant remember how it is thought of...

I seem to remember that extreme ignettes have been DQ'd in advanced before, but can't find examples.


So it is perception i suppose - the car shot which was just the front grill got DQ'd on something similar i think. But was just thinking of something like this shot:



And after searching that i realise where my thought process was coming from - it was actually the shot he mentions in the details which was DQ'd and that was my first look at a DQ'd shot because of an added vignette and back then i wasnt into the intricacies of advanced vs basic...

Got it now :)
01/30/2008 02:26:12 PM · #24
Originally posted by _eug:

Originally posted by Sonifo:

not to rat out the #2 winner for framed but didn't they use a vignette frame?

Looks like it was caused by the use of the ND filter not software.


gotcha..I guess I should have read all of the comment in the comment box.
01/30/2008 04:29:53 PM · #25
Originally posted by fotomann_forever:

Originally posted by frisca:

I don't think gradient tool is legal in basic.


I'm pretty sure you're right.

I'm also pretty sure the Gradient adjustment layer contains pixel data and would ultimately be DQ'd brought to SC's attention.

Sorry, I already have a few DQ's or I'd test it out ... :-)


If you are referring to the gradient map adjustment layer that doesn't contain any pixel data. If it did then it wouldn't be an adjustment layer.

ETA: Sorry I missunderstood. I was thinking of a different tool. The gradient map should be 100% legal in basic and I assume (now) that's not what you are talking about here.

Message edited by author 2008-01-30 16:34:17.
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