Microsoft Internet Explorer7/Vista Users Read This

12/17/2007 03:58:56 PM · #1

Users of Microsoft's IE7 and Vista may find that one or more of the above dpc button utilities do not work as expected. Additionally, these same users may discover that you are unable to download or upgrade Adobe Flash player. Both of these shortcomings are associated with IE7 and possibly the Vista operating system.

I confirmed these problems just days ago while attempting to attach photographs to this forum. I additionally discovered that I was unable to view web video due to IE7's conflict with Adobe Flash Player.Based upon available information I believe both of these problems are linked. Both MS and Adobe are aware of the Adobe Flash Player/IE7 problem and at this time there is no know solution. A Goggle on Adobe Flash Player IE7 conflict will return a wealth of data.

After about two hours of research I happily discovered that IE7/Vista users can avoid, or avert these problems by simply switching from MS IE7 to Mozilla FireFox. For those of you not familiar with FireFox, it is one, if not the leading, alternative browser. I've made the switch and so far so good.

If you find the need for an alternative to IE7 or are simply curious you can check out FireFox at: //www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/

Louisp

P.S. I would like to thank the fine members and guests of dpc for your help, patient support and encouragement. God Bless.

12/17/2007 04:04:13 PM · #2

I have never had a problem with Flash on Vista using IE7. And the button functionality you experienced is by design in IE. You can turn off the annoying behaviour by doing this: Tools menu, Internet options, Security tab. Click "Custom Level". Scroll down to the "Scripting" section, and under "Allow websites to prompt for information using scripted windows", select "Enable". Click OK a few times and you're all set.

Canon EF 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6L IS

12/17/2007 04:32:37 PM · #3

Originally posted by Louis:

Thank you for the great information Louis! The change to IE7 security worked perfectly for the dpc utilities. You know I spent two days trying to find such a solution. I appreciate your help.

To test the impact of the IE7 security change on the Flash Player matter I un-installed Flash Player ( previously loaded using Firefox) then attempted to re-install Flash Player with the IE7 browser active. No change there unfortunately, I encountered the same IE7 conflict. I then switched to my Firefox browser and downloaded Flash Player with no problems.

Louisp

Strikeslip

Canon EOS-5D

12/17/2007 04:35:14 PM · #4

Louis helping Louis

JustinM

Sony Alpha a7 IV

Sony FE 24-105mm F4 G OSS

12/17/2007 04:42:17 PM · #5

Originally posted by Strikeslip:

Louis helping Louis

lol

dwterry

Canon EOS-1D Mark III

Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L USM

12/17/2007 04:44:13 PM · #6

IE7 is nice, but..... after you get used to Firefox, you won't go back. :-)

Delta_6

Canon EOS-7D

Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS

12/17/2007 04:58:19 PM · #7

Originally posted by dwterry:

IE7 is nice, but..... after you get used to Firefox, you won't go back. :-)

Concur.

12/17/2007 05:03:14 PM · #8

an easier and safer way to go about it is to set the websites you trust.

ie: //www.dpchallenge.com

under the 'trusted sites' section of the IE7 security window.

Originally posted by louisp:

Originally posted by Louis:

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I have never had a problem with Flash on Vista using IE7. And the button functionality you experienced is by design in IE. You can turn off the annoying behaviour by doing this: Tools menu, Internet options, Security tab. Click "Custom Level". Scroll down to the "Scripting" section, and under "Allow websites to prompt for information using scripted windows", select "Enable". Click OK a few times and you're all set.

Thank you for the great information Louis! The change to IE7 security worked perfectly for the dpc utilities. You know I spent two days trying to find such a solution. I appreciate your help.

To test the impact of the IE7 security change on the Flash Player matter I un-installed Flash Player ( previously loaded using Firefox) then attempted to re-install Flash Player with the IE7 browser active. No change there unfortunately, I encountered the same IE7 conflict. I then switched to my Firefox browser and downloaded Flash Player with no problems.

Louisp

Nikon AF-S Nikkor 28-300mm f3.5-5.6G ED VR

12/17/2007 05:05:06 PM · #9

Originally posted by soup:

an easier and safer way to go about it is to set the websites you trust.

ie: //www.dpchallenge.com

under the 'trusted sites' section of the IE7 security window.

Yes, this is much better. If a security update comes along for IE, for example, the setting I described to you will be overwritten. Soup's way is better.

Edit: see my post below, Soup's way has a limitation some might not like (including me).

Message edited by author 2007-12-17 17:10:21.

banmorn

Nikon D750

12/17/2007 05:09:46 PM · #10

Originally posted by Louis:

THANK YOU!

12/17/2007 05:09:47 PM · #11

Actually, I take that back. :-) Soup's way also forces a new browser window every time you want to use the site. This means no tab for dpchallenge when you also want to surf other sites, because IE will force a new browser instance for sites in different security zones. For me, it defeats the purpose of tabbed browsing so I can't use it that way.

12/17/2007 05:11:38 PM · #12

but it doesn't allow a trusted site to be tabbed with an untrusted one - to me that's a good thing. though you are correct in how it works...

Message edited by author 2007-12-17 17:11:58.

Nikon AF-S Nikkor 28-300mm f3.5-5.6G ED VR

12/17/2007 05:11:40 PM · #13

Originally posted by banmorn:

Originally posted by Louis:
I have never had a problem with Flash on Vista using IE7. And the button functionality you experienced is by design in IE. You can turn off the annoying behaviour by doing this: Tools menu, Internet options, Security tab. Click "Custom Level". Scroll down to the "Scripting" section, and under "Allow websites to prompt for information using scripted windows", select "Enable". Click OK a few times and you're all set.

THANK YOU!

Welcome. :-) Be sure to write the steps down though, as the setting might be overwritten if IE is updated by automatic updates.

banmorn

Nikon D750

12/17/2007 05:17:30 PM · #14

Originally posted by Louis:

Originally posted by banmorn:

Originally posted by Louis:
I have never had a problem with Flash on Vista using IE7. And the button functionality you experienced is by design in IE. You can turn off the annoying behaviour by doing this: Tools menu, Internet options, Security tab. Click "Custom Level". Scroll down to the "Scripting" section, and under "Allow websites to prompt for information using scripted windows", select "Enable". Click OK a few times and you're all set.

THANK YOU!

Welcome. :-) Be sure to write the steps down though, as the setting might be overwritten if IE is updated by automatic updates.

NP....I'll add scroll ALL the way down to the choices(? selections maybe is better) as it is just above the bottom....easier to find that way.

Message edited by author 2007-12-17 17:18:53.

12/17/2007 05:46:04 PM · #15

then any site - trusted or not - is allowed to run scripts. IMO that is circumventing the security altogether. might as well uninstall the virus scan while you're at it...

Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS USM

12/17/2007 05:48:05 PM · #16

Originally posted by soup:

then any site - trusted or not - is allowed to run scripts. IMO that is circumventing the security altogether. might as well uninstall the virus scan while you're at it...

With the setting I've described? No, not install scripts, just allow scripts to pop up a window that prompts for information (as in the post editing tools on this site).

Photologist

Apple iPhone 16 Pro Max

12/17/2007 05:57:16 PM · #17

I've never had an issue with the DPC site, nor with Flash player. I've been running Windows Vista Enterprise Edition for over a year and Internet Explorer 7 for much longer.

12/17/2007 06:06:21 PM · #18

they are running in the cache - you have to download a javascript because it is a client side type of code ie: it runs on the local computer ( your machine ). a script that pops up a window here ( DPC ) is likely benign. one from somewhere else might potentially have other code in it that you don't 'see'... so if you are unsure whether you trust the site why let it run code on your machine?

Originally posted by Louis:

Originally posted by soup:

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then any site - trusted or not - is allowed to run scripts. IMO that is circumventing the security altogether. might as well uninstall the virus scan while you're at it...

With the setting I've described? No, not install scripts, just allow scripts to pop up a window that prompts for information (as in the post editing tools on this site).

Message edited by author 2007-12-17 18:06:48.

12/17/2007 08:11:11 PM · #19

Originally posted by soup:

Well, it's my livelihood, so I understand how all this stuff works. ;-) Sure, you can disable Javascript for all sites except your trusted ones, but by and large you'll have a spotty web experience. The risk with js is pretty minimal.

12/18/2007 08:17:13 AM · #20

Re: Unable to load Flash Player when using IE7.

After even more research I located a solution from Adobe.

1. Go to //www.adobe.com/support/flashplayer/downloads.html

2. Locate then click on Download the Windows Flash Player 9 ActiveX control content debugger (for IE) (EXE, 1.18 MB) (it is the first listed utility)

3. Follow the prompts.

A user listed the above solution on: //www.tabletquestions.com/internet-explorer/110343-re-ie-7-b3-not-loading-flash-player.html

12/18/2007 10:29:41 AM · #21

Originally posted by Louis:

Originally posted by soup:

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they are running in the cache - you have to download a javascript because it is a client side type of code ie: it runs on the local computer ( your machine ). a script that pops up a window here ( DPC ) is likely benign. one from somewhere else might potentially have other code in it that you don't 'see'... so if you are unsure whether you trust the site why let it run code on your machine?

Well, it's my livelihood, so I understand how all this stuff works. ;-) Sure, you can disable Javascript for all sites except your trusted ones, but by and large you'll have a spotty web experience. The risk with js is pretty minimal.

Message edited by author 2007-12-18 10:30:22.

12/18/2007 10:39:49 AM · #22

Originally posted by soup:

i guess part of my reasoning is i really don't want pop up windows from any site i visit - weather.com has them blocked everytime i visit the site ( daily )... i don't have javascript disabled, i just don't let sites pop up crap unless i am pretty certain the crap is something i am interested in seeing... i always have the option of viewing the blocked content from 'untrusted' sites as well - with one click...

and yes the internet w/o javascript at all would be slightly clunky ;}

Originally posted by Louis:
Originally posted by soup:

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they are running in the cache - you have to download a javascript because it is a client side type of code ie: it runs on the local computer ( your machine ). a script that pops up a window here ( DPC ) is likely benign. one from somewhere else might potentially have other code in it that you don't 'see'... so if you are unsure whether you trust the site why let it run code on your machine?

Well, it's my livelihood, so I understand how all this stuff works. ;-) Sure, you can disable Javascript for all sites except your trusted ones, but by and large you'll have a spotty web experience. The risk with js is pretty minimal.

I don't mean to beat a dead horse but have you taken a look at weather.com when using Firefox. Maybe no great difference, only you can tell.

Lp

12/18/2007 10:49:46 AM · #23

haven't yet - but will install it at some point. i really don't have an issue with IE so haven't had the need to switch...