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Tamron AF 28-80mm f/3.5-5.6 Aspherical for Canon

02/15/2004 09:19:04 PM · #26

Originally posted by Armadillo:

some of you people are so completely stuck on sitting in the box. this really ticks me off. I haven't been to another site that chokes creativity quite as much as this one. i look at these challenge topics as general guide lines not cages. bend a bit folks! unclench your cheeks and relax.

ABSOLUTELY!!!!! LIVE OUTSIDE THE BOX!!!!

tarique

Nikon Coolpix 5700

02/15/2004 09:21:13 PM · #27

Atleast for me if the main subject is not black it will be minus 1 point from whatever the total I would give.

cbeller

Nikon D300

Nikon AF-S DX Zoom-Nikkor 16-85 f/3.5-5.6G ED VR

02/15/2004 09:27:46 PM · #28

Originally posted by Armadillo:

IMHO, the whole idea of the challenge theme is what inspires the creativity. You need to be creative to find a way to meet the challenge in a unique way. Everyone is trying to find a way to meet the challenge, you need to find a way to make your entry stand out. That takes creativity.

02/15/2004 09:33:19 PM · #29

so tarique, exactly what percentage of the subject would you like to se black? because i don;t think i could sleep tonight unless i was sure i didn't lose that one point!

02/15/2004 09:34:24 PM · #30

is 50% enough? mine is more like 65% black.

tyt2000

Canon EF 16-35mm f/2.8L USM II

02/15/2004 09:36:00 PM · #31

Just keep in mind that the main object in the photograph has to originaly be black. Taking a photograph that has "black" or dark tones is not what the challenge is asking for. Thats how I understood the description.

Good luck...

eaphelps

02/15/2004 09:43:38 PM · #32

I think as always, blanket rulings for point deduction or low scoring are close minded. I would consider a black subject, a conveyed feeling of blackness or darkness, black light, and many many other "blackish" themes as absolutely acceptable and I will consider each photograph individualy. There are not usually very many photographs that are completely unrelated to the theme. We are here to have fun and educate ourselves/others about the art and science of photography right? So be open minded!

tyt2000

Canon EF 16-35mm f/2.8L USM II

02/15/2004 09:47:07 PM · #33

Ya I am open minded (like most ppl here), i'm here to have fun and learn too. I also like to follow the challenge description when taking photos.

Message edited by author 2004-02-15 22:32:48.

Canon EF 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6L IS

02/15/2004 09:47:39 PM · #34

thank you. you may pass

ellamay

Canon EOS-1D Mark II

02/15/2004 09:59:58 PM · #35

I agree armadillo- what other sites are there that are not so restrictive?

dtouch1

Tamron AF 28-80mm f/3.5-5.6 Aspherical for Canon

02/15/2004 10:06:12 PM · #36

I'd like to know that too.

Canon EF 55-200mm f/4.5-5.6 II USM

02/15/2004 10:12:57 PM · #37

I don;t want to advertise other sites here. I just see a common discussion theme on this site. over and over people are discussing how best to adhere to the "Rules". I'm not saying screw the rules, but it seams that Interpertation is being discouraged. Photography is an art form. if you dissagree you should put down your camera and pick up a calculator and become a CPA.

orussell

Canon EOS Rebel T6s

02/15/2004 10:19:53 PM · #38

These post really seem to sway the way people vote. Not saying this is entirely a bad thing - at least not for the winners. It's not easy to gauge how the majority are going to vote. Sometimes it seems you can be too literal with challenge topics and your submissions suffer for exactly this reason. So you decide to think outside the box for once and wham, that works against you. So what do you do? Do your best and do what pleases you.

dtouch1

Tamron AF 28-80mm f/3.5-5.6 Aspherical for Canon

02/15/2004 10:20:05 PM · #39

Originally posted by Armadillo:

It seems like there are quite a few people here that should do just that. But then again what is art without the critics, and what is a challenge without the rules?

Cant we all just get along?

pcody

Canon PowerShot G6

Nikon AF Nikkor 50mm f/1.8

02/15/2004 10:26:48 PM · #40

This is insanity, I tell you. Insanity. Black, smack. Just let me look at all the pretty pictures and I'll vote the way I want to vote. Geez. We can't even have a challenge with something as basic as black without getting the "not on challenge" stuff.

02/15/2004 10:26:54 PM · #41

hmm i am not sure how to think on this one.

I agree with that, it is only fair if we all play by the rules. If indeed the 'rules' say the 'thing' in the image has to black in color, then it should be... if it says the image has to have a 'black' nature then.. that is what we have to do...
however, i think that if the rules say the image has to be black (not saying that they do), then it is not close-minded to only accept black subjects... it would be more challenging or at least equally challenging and requite just as much reativity to photograph an object that is black, as photographing a subject in a dark (black) setting.

Thinking outside the box is always viewed highly, however, only those who satisfy the base requirements, are succesful. just because it is outside the box, it doesn't mean it is inside the realm of the solution.

if that made any sense... ?

02/15/2004 10:27:15 PM · #42

I'm just trying to get some people out of their rigid frame of mind. but i guess as Sigmund Freud said " sometimes a cigar is just a cigar"

tyt2000

Canon EF 16-35mm f/2.8L USM II

02/15/2004 10:33:43 PM · #43

I totaly agree with everything you said leaf. It makes great sense to me.

Canon EF 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6L IS

02/15/2004 10:34:34 PM · #44

leaf, that made sense, but for example if i took a picture of my black friend, who is brown, would i be downgraded because he is not black? if you asked him he would tell you that he is as black as they come.

ellamay

Canon EOS-1D Mark II

02/15/2004 10:39:59 PM · #45

So from now on all those shots that are not 'creative' or have 'art', also as mentioned as requirements in the challenge rules, should automatically be given ones or marked down for lack of 'creativity or art'?

02/15/2004 10:40:46 PM · #46

yeah, i thought about that too, i have a black nephew...
and perhaps that is where a out of the box, grey area is.
a black person isn't BLACK... or most of them isn't, save their hair.
but they ARE 'black'... i dunno
i would think that that black IS black..... perhaps, a black outside the box.

02/15/2004 10:42:23 PM · #47

Originally posted by ellamay:

I think definatly so.
this is about photographic ART... if it does not have anything artistic in it (in your opinion) mark it down.

02/15/2004 10:43:10 PM · #48

and then uprises the discussion.. what is 'ART'... which i guess we all have to decide for ourselves.

MadMordegon

02/15/2004 10:46:09 PM · #49

Originally posted by dtouch1:

Originally posted by Armadillo:
some of you people are so completely stuck on sitting in the box. this really ticks me off. I haven't been to another site that chokes creativity quite as much as this one. i look at these challenge topics as general guide lines not cages. bend a bit folks! unclench your cheeks and relax.

ABSOLUTELY!!!!! LIVE OUTSIDE THE BOX!!!!

indeed/agreed