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 04/24/2007 06:12:57 AM · #1
I think it will be a great idea if we can see the images that made up your "expert editing" submission, as they were taken out from the camera (resized รข€“ sharpened รข€“ saved).
People, who used 3 or more originals to create their entry, are invited to reveal their originals to demonstrate the power of this "rule", exhibit the amount of change that the "rule" did for the originals, and maybe, explain how they arrived at such fantastic, or not so good results. Surly people who used 2 photos could also show there work if they like, I just think putting 3 photos is much harder than two, and that is why I suggested 3+
I wish of people with "expert editing" entries to grace us starting tomorrow, after the results of "landscape III" and "Hair" are out, with their original photos next to their entry indeed; and hopefully this will go on for other "expert editing" rule challenges so everyone can benefit and learn.

Added "Hair"

Message edited by author 2007-04-24 07:27:01.
 04/24/2007 06:25:09 AM · #2
What if we submitted to Hair? Is this only for landscape?
 04/24/2007 06:28:51 AM · #3
Originally posted by JunieMoon:
What if we submitted to Hair? Is this only for landscape?


No No ... Any "expert editing" will be ok.
 04/24/2007 07:10:05 AM · #4
I wish I could...but I am hopeless at Expert Editing.
 04/24/2007 07:18:28 AM · #5
Anyone who wants to is welcome to upload (resized) original(s) for challenge entries to their portfolio, and it's fairly simple to link to them in the description or comments of an entry. The real trick here is to persuade enough people to actually do that :o)
 04/24/2007 07:24:51 AM · #6
I can't post all the images I used for this entry - but you can follow this link for the My World Tutorial. My other expert edit entries could have passed muster in advanced outside of the triptych with a texture I did for Harsh environments.
 04/24/2007 05:39:57 PM · #7
Originally posted by Manic:
Anyone who wants to is welcome to upload (resized) original(s) for challenge entries to their portfolio, and it's fairly simple to link to them in the description or comments of an entry. The real trick here is to persuade enough people to actually do that :o)


Why do you think people will not post the originals, because it involves some work resizing and uploading or what?

And Tim, I still love this photo of yours and thanks for the Tutorial.
04/25/2007 02:14:00 AM · #8
I started this I guess I will go first.
This is my submission
And these are the originals.


I hope this disclosure is not too disappointing for the people who liked the photo.
 04/25/2007 02:26:47 AM · #9
Pretty nice combination Tareq. Intense but still natural.
 04/25/2007 02:53:48 AM · #10
My daughter has been asking me for ages to make her hair pink.


04/25/2007 05:34:08 AM · #11
I had no entry but would like to point out that of the six tibbons, only one was obviously expert-editing. Most of the others could well have been legal under advanced. I think this is a good example of how anyone can compete in expert editing challenges - even the purists!

Well done to all the entrants.
 04/25/2007 03:45:43 PM · #12
Here are straight from the camera JPGs of my three RAW exposures for my entry.

Finished product:


Three exposures, 0, -2, +2 stops



Obviously you need expert to do HDR, but other than some minor cloning, it was quite basic legal.

Message edited by author 2007-04-25 15:46:02.
 04/25/2007 05:09:23 PM · #13
Jason
Thanks for posting these. I think I have been underexposing my multiple exposure HDRs up to now. I tend to not get enough of the dark recesses with my modest bracketing. I will try a wider array of stops to try and get more punch as you did so well in this image.

Originally posted by DrAchoo:
Here are straight from the camera JPGs of my three RAW exposures for my entry.

Finished product:


Three exposures, 0, -2, +2 stops



Obviously you need expert to do HDR, but other than some minor cloning, it was quite basic legal.
04/25/2007 06:08:44 PM · #14
WOW! Great idea for a thread, and I appreciate the examples posted so far.

Jason, that's the single greatest demonstration of HDR I've seen.
 04/25/2007 06:16:32 PM · #15
I REALLY appreciate threads like this - it's a great way for me to UNDERSTAND why some of you are SO BRILLIANT - SMILE!

04/25/2007 06:27:07 PM · #16
Original:

Submission:

No real "expert editing", just a little advanced editing.
04/25/2007 06:33:52 PM · #17
Originally posted by aerogurl:
Original:

Submission:

No real "expert editing", just a little advanced editing.


I think this is a great example of advanced editing.

Would you mind very much sharing what you did to make this shot SO vibrant and alive compared to the original!
 04/26/2007 02:41:08 AM · #18
Originally posted by iamwoman:


I think this is a great example of advanced editing.

Would you mind very much sharing what you did to make this shot SO vibrant and alive compared to the original!


Thank You! This is actually a tree from an old challenge, , I placed 16th out of 636. Each time I pass it I think, I love that tree and I want a great photo of it and I already had pictured in my head just the way I wanted it to look when I shot it. I shot it on a rainy and stormy day to give the sky some oomph. I played around wtih curves in RAW to darken the sky a bit while bringing out the tree. I rotated the image slightly to level the horizon line. I cloned out the power line and cloned in some weeds in the left corner infront of the fence to cover the red mud spot. I moved the fence so it centered perfectly with the tree trunk. I cloned out the stuff on the horizon line (I think thats the worst part of the image, it looks too edited there), also cloned out a couple dots of trash from using a f-stop of 25 and my sensor not being clean. I used selective color to bring out the colors of the sky, grass and tree. I added some contrast and sharpened the tree and fence by hand with the tool. I dodged and burned the sky and dodged the tree and fence a bit. I think the most important thing was the selective coloring. I chose yellow not green and pumped up the cyan and yellow levels to make the yellow greener, then I just let the contrast bring out the natural green.

This was a great learning experience for me. I have only dabbled with Photoshop CS for a year or so, but have used it exclusively for the past few months. This challenge really helped me hone my skills.

Thanks again :)
 04/26/2007 05:21:49 AM · #19
Originally posted by aerogurl:
Originally posted by iamwoman:


I think this is a great example of advanced editing.

Would you mind very much sharing what you did to make this shot SO vibrant and alive compared to the original!


Thank You! This is actually a tree from an old challenge, , I placed 16th out of 636. Each time I pass it I think, I love that tree and I want a great photo of it and I already had pictured in my head just the way I wanted it to look when I shot it. I shot it on a rainy and stormy day to give the sky some oomph. I played around wtih curves in RAW to darken the sky a bit while bringing out the tree. I rotated the image slightly to level the horizon line. I cloned out the power line and cloned in some weeds in the left corner infront of the fence to cover the red mud spot. I moved the fence so it centered perfectly with the tree trunk. I cloned out the stuff on the horizon line (I think thats the worst part of the image, it looks too edited there), also cloned out a couple dots of trash from using a f-stop of 25 and my sensor not being clean. I used selective color to bring out the colors of the sky, grass and tree. I added some contrast and sharpened the tree and fence by hand with the tool. I dodged and burned the sky and dodged the tree and fence a bit. I think the most important thing was the selective coloring. I chose yellow not green and pumped up the cyan and yellow levels to make the yellow greener, then I just let the contrast bring out the natural green.

This was a great learning experience for me. I have only dabbled with Photoshop CS for a year or so, but have used it exclusively for the past few months. This challenge really helped me hone my skills.

Thanks again :)


If I were to have a say in this, I would make the horizon as sharp as a razor edge, no trees no nothing and I would rotate the images to make the trunk exactly vertical with the least consideration to the horizon line. I will crop the image from the left even If some of the branches are taken out; the tree now is not in the center and is not positioned enough to the left of the general composition; I think these changes will do the photo good. And it's a very nice tree.
 04/26/2007 06:41:37 AM · #20
Thank you all for posting some very nice images. I was amazed at seeing what images had gone into making the final submissions! I still have alot to learn, but I look forward to seeing what I can create using some of the techniques you all have shown. Thanks so much!
 04/26/2007 10:52:03 PM · #21
Under the Rainbow



The geographical distances between the 4 images to create these landscapes is about 50klm, but were all shot on the same day except for the bird. Had just headed out for a shoot when 5klm from home noticed a rainbow develop to my left on the road I was traveling, immediately started to look for a landscape to shoot under it, and came across a suitable position, IMG 5455 shot with the camera lowered to get in the foreground, raised the camera to capture the rainbow IMG 5460, pleased with what looked good in the viewfinder. Returned home with what I had.
Rang a friend of ours who has a horse stud and asked if we could drive out and fill the trailer with rocks for a rockery we are building, and all was ok. This is in the opposite direction to which I had gone earlier in the day being about 40klm from home. On our way back noticed a lonely country cottage on a large cleared area and thought this would look good under the rainbow. IMG 5452. I now saw in my mind the landscape image that I believed would look good with the images I hoped were captured right to blend together.
The bird was captured 3 days earlier IMG 5345 in a completely different scene.

All color & curve toning & sharpening was done in raw and cropped.

1st Background รข€“ 5452
2nd Background รข€“ 5452 รข€“ 5460
3rd Background - 5452 รข€“ 5460 รข€“ 5455 this increased color range in rainbow and clouds
Final canvas รข€“ 5455 รข€“ 5452 รข€“ 5460 - 5345
Lot of cutting & erasing
Added Brightness/Contrast as required to keep the lighting together.
Selective Colors.
Color replacement on bird.
Final Brightness/Contrast.
NI
Save for web

There is a belief that the editing had distaughted the natural elements of nature by the darkening of the sky, and that the two rainbows were taken at different times because of the reverse coloring on the rear rainbow to that in the front,I believe this had a lot to do with the fact the clouds were quit thin and let the light through, which is evident when the darkening occurred, the light on the roof of the cottage is there in the original and brightened using brightness contrast, as the backgrounds were built. there is no shadow from the tree in the foreground as that is natural from the original 5455, all the shadows are comming from behind the camera, and there is no visble shadow from the large single tree which became the tree in the paddock, for what reason I cannot explain.

Message edited by author 2007-04-26 23:15:58.
 04/30/2007 12:29:20 AM · #22
aerogurl, thanks for sharing your post processing -- really interesting!

As for the others, I had no idea those photos were made up of multiple shots! Thanks for sharing what is possible (and what is allowed, too).

Now I'm wondering if there needs to be a separation of composite and non-composite editing challenges. And on which side of the fence would an HDR image (like the waterfall) fall?

EDIT: I'm not really suggesting further division.

Message edited by author 2007-04-30 18:43:09.
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