Personification ??? - DPChallenge Forums

Nikon AF Nikkor 50mm f/1.4D

02/04/2007 11:41:38 PM · #76

One entry in for Pop'nFresh

raish

Olympus C-2500L

02/05/2007 01:55:12 AM · #77

Originally posted by DrAchoo:

You can certainly personify an animal, but it's gonna be a real stretch to have an animal be considered "inanimate".

Personally, the last time I voted this challenge I did 100% comments, but gave out 53 (of 200) scores of 3 or less. That's pretty unusual, but I thought there was a ton of shots which weren't personification at all.

To my understanding:
Just finding a face in an object is not personification.
Figurines of people are not personification.
Pets are not inanimate.
Stuffed animals are a cheap way out.
I am looking for an everyday object to be posed or placed in such a way as to imply an emotion or characteristic.

This:

was my only 10 of the last challenge and I think it was perfect.

The objects can take on a human look (the winner as an example), but that should not be "the whole story" and if you manage to do it with an object that doesn't look human at all, well, you get bonus points.

People are welcome to disagree (Lord knows we all disagreed a bunch last time), but you aren't getting my vote.

Do you ever get fed up with being sensible?

It's a breath of fresh air to read what you've put there.
Finding something that is not human (e.g. a huge block of marble) and making it look human (e.g. this sort of thing

) is sculpture.

etc etc

At first I thought I was so far off the received idea that I should refrain from voting, but you just might have given me the courage.

Kelli

Canon EOS-D60

Canon EF 28-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS USM

02/05/2007 08:08:29 AM · #78

Originally posted by raish:

Originally posted by DrAchoo:
You can certainly personify an animal, but it's gonna be a real stretch to have an animal be considered "inanimate".

Personally, the last time I voted this challenge I did 100% comments, but gave out 53 (of 200) scores of 3 or less. That's pretty unusual, but I thought there was a ton of shots which weren't personification at all.

To my understanding:
Just finding a face in an object is not personification.
Figurines of people are not personification.
Pets are not inanimate.
Stuffed animals are a cheap way out.
I am looking for an everyday object to be posed or placed in such a way as to imply an emotion or characteristic.

This:

was my only 10 of the last challenge and I think it was perfect.

The objects can take on a human look (the winner as an example), but that should not be "the whole story" and if you manage to do it with an object that doesn't look human at all, well, you get bonus points.

People are welcome to disagree (Lord knows we all disagreed a bunch last time), but you aren't getting my vote.

Do you ever get fed up with being sensible?

It's a breath of fresh air to read what you've put there.
Finding something that is not human (e.g. a huge block of marble) and making it look human (e.g. this sort of thing ) is sculpture.

etc etc

At first I thought I was so far off the received idea that I should refrain from voting, but you just might have given me the courage.

The description: Personification occurs when inanimate objects are endowed with human qualities or represented as possessing human form or personality. Take a photo of something non-human-looking that still shows human characteristics or evokes a human feeling.

Now, the description was changed (when I first read it, it said inanimate object, not non-human-looking). The changing of it, I think screwed people up in their thinking because finding a human attribute, be it an eye, nose, face or whatever is Personification.

The definition by Merriam Webster:
Main Entry: perÂ·sonÂ·iÂ·fiÂ·caÂ·tion
Pronunciation: p&r-"sÃ¤-n&-f&-'kA-sh&n
Function: noun
1 : attribution of personal qualities; especially : representation of a thing or abstraction as a person or by the human form
2 : a divinity or imaginary being representing a thing or abstraction
3 : EMBODIMENT, INCARNATION

So for all the people who say they are voting these down, that's your choice, but a bad one IMHO.

***Bolds are mine***

silverfoxx

Canon EOS-5D

Canon EF 70-200mm f/4.0L USM

02/05/2007 08:17:06 AM · #79

Originally posted by DrAchoo:

To my understanding:
Just finding a face in an object is not personification.
Figurines of people are not personification.
Pets are not inanimate.
Stuffed animals are a cheap way out.
I am looking for an everyday object to be posed or placed in such a way as to imply an emotion or characteristic.

The objects can take on a human look (the winner as an example), but that should not be "the whole story" and if you manage to do it with an object that doesn't look human at all, well, you get bonus points.

People are welcome to disagree (Lord knows we all disagreed a bunch last time), but you aren't getting my vote.

yes, absolutely yes. this is how I am voting now.
I have given many 3s and 4s and even 2s - for the first time I'm here.
sorry for that. I'll try to comment on every entry.

idnic

Canon EOS-60D

Canon EF-S 17-55mm f/2.8 IS USM

02/05/2007 08:23:35 AM · #80

Hmmm chose a very non-human subject, captured its human-like characteristics in a well composed, nicely-colored image and I'm scoring a FOUR POINT FIVE! WTF???

whiterook

Sony DSLR-A700

Sony DT 18-200mm f/3.5-6.3 Aspherical ED High Magnification Zoom Lens for Sony Alpha

02/05/2007 08:33:57 AM · #81

I found 20's something good enough to vote a 10

Message edited by scalvert - Challenge entry removed.

glad2badad

Apple iPhone 16 Pro

Lensbaby Sweet 35 Optic

02/05/2007 08:39:16 AM · #82

Originally posted by idnic:

Hmmm chose a very non-human subject, captured its human-like characteristics in a well composed, nicely-colored image and I'm scoring a FOUR POINT FIVE! WTF???

Well, if it's any consolation I'll join you with your sentiment. I've been here long enough to rarely be surprised at results - this one has blind-sided me.

Oh well, onward to Wednesday morning now. :P

nards656

Canon EOS-300D Rebel

Tamron SP AF 24-135mm f/3.5-5.6 AD Aspherical IF for Canon

02/05/2007 08:42:07 AM · #83

Originally posted by idnic:

Hmmm chose a very non-human subject, captured its human-like characteristics in a well composed, nicely-colored image and I'm scoring a FOUR POINT FIVE! WTF???

All of a sudden, it's very chic to vote low based on supposed DNMC, even on a GOOD picture.

scalvert

Canon EOS-5D Mark III

Canon EF-S 17-55mm f/2.8 IS USM

02/05/2007 08:46:17 AM · #84

Originally posted by idnic:

I'm scoring a FOUR POINT FIVE! WTF???

Team 20D is now accepting applications for a new...

idnic

Canon EOS-60D

02/05/2007 08:50:45 AM · #85

Originally posted by scalvert:

Originally posted by idnic:
I'm scoring a FOUR POINT FIVE! WTF???

Team 20D is now accepting applications for a new...

LMAO Is it bad to start the season with a self DQ?? :P

scalvert

Canon EOS-5D Mark III

Sigma 15mm f/2.8 EX Diagonal Fisheye for Nikon

02/05/2007 09:06:31 AM · #86

Originally posted by idnic:

Is it bad to start the season with a self DQ?? :P

Aww man.... looks like you already have an entry for Bad, and you can't enter both Open challenges... :-(

Message edited by author 2007-02-05 09:17:23.

muckpond

Nikon D200

02/05/2007 09:43:29 AM · #87

aw, man. i thought this was an open challenge and i was going to shoot for it today! i bought props and everything. :(

fork everything! (@*&$%$(!!!1!!

Hipychik

Sony Alpha a6000

Sony 16-50mm f/3.5-5.6 E-mount

02/05/2007 09:49:32 AM · #88

I would have gave this a 10! ;)

raish

Olympus C-2500L

Nikon AF Nikkor 50mm f/1.4D

02/05/2007 10:10:38 AM · #89

Originally posted by idnic:

Hmmm chose a very non-human subject, captured its human-like characteristics in a well composed, nicely-colored image and I'm scoring a FOUR POINT FIVE! WTF???

Too soon after nudity IV - there's only one button to press.

SaraR

Sony Alpha a7R III

Sony FE 24-70mm f/2.8 GM

02/05/2007 10:20:42 AM · #90

Originally posted by hipychik:

I would have gave this a 10! ;)

The way I am feeling about my score in this challenge, it somes up my feelings entirely - would have been a 10 from me, too!

Canon EF 28-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS USM

02/05/2007 11:54:28 AM · #91

Hey raish, I was exactly thinking of your example last night. Michaelangelo's David is not marble personified...

that's my view and I'm sticking to it.

Kelli

Canon EOS-D60

02/05/2007 12:03:39 PM · #92

Originally posted by DrAchoo:

Hey raish, I was exactly thinking of your example last night. Michaelangelo's David is not marble personified...

that's my view and I'm sticking to it.

I agree with the statue thing, or the stuffed animals, but if you were to find a face in your grilled cheese sandwich (the virgin mary perhaps) then that is personification IMHO. LOL

Canon EF 70-200mm f/4.0L USM

02/05/2007 12:06:27 PM · #93

Originally posted by kdsprog:

Originally posted by DrAchoo:
Hey raish, I was exactly thinking of your example last night. Michaelangelo's David is not marble personified...

that's my view and I'm sticking to it.

I agree with the statue thing, or the stuffed animals, but if you were to find a face in your grilled cheese sandwich (the virgin mary perhaps) then that is personification IMHO. LOL

Yes, last time around I didn't think so. This time around, I'm going to buy it, but I'm giving higher votes if the face also conveys an emotion. So just finding a face will get a 4-6 from me, if the face does something for me, 7-10.

silverfoxx

Canon EOS-5D

02/05/2007 12:14:59 PM · #94

Originally posted by DrAchoo:

it would be really interesting to find out what you can give/have given? my entry. it seems like I have the same voting "style" on this challenge but i can't analyse my own entry form this position:) I just can't. I'm very good at judging others though, hehe. it would be fun to see if my own entry meets these criteria.

Message edited by author 2007-02-05 12:15:27.

Canon EF 70-200mm f/4.0L USM

02/05/2007 12:27:44 PM · #95

Originally posted by silverfoxx:

Originally posted by DrAchoo:
Yes, last time around I didn't think so. This time around, I'm going to buy it, but I'm giving higher votes if the face also conveys an emotion. So just finding a face will get a 4-6 from me, if the face does something for me, 7-10.

it would be really interesting to find out what you can give/have given? my entry. it seems like I have the same voting "style" on this challenge but i can't analyse my own entry form this position:) I just can't. I'm very good at judging others though, hehe. it would be fun to see if my own entry meets these criteria.

I'll tell you after if I don't leave the score in a comment. I haven't voted yet.

silverfoxx

Canon EOS-5D

02/05/2007 12:28:48 PM · #96

Originally posted by DrAchoo:

I'll tell you after if I don't leave the score in a comment. I haven't voted yet.

thank you!

skewsme

Canon EOS-6D

Canon EF 200mm f/2.8 L II USM Lens

02/05/2007 12:37:44 PM · #97

Originally posted by DrAchoo:

To my understanding:

Just finding a face in an object is not personification.

Perhaps you mean, 'In my view' or 'In my opinion' - because I can't imagine that you didn't understand the entire challenge description better.

from the challenge description: "inanimate objects...represented as possessing human form"

Originally posted by DrAchoo:

I am looking for an everyday object to be posed or placed in such a way as to imply an emotion or characteristic.

This is above and beyond what was asked for. You require that the object be small enough to move? That seems unnecessarily limiting. Personification is the act of attributing the human characteristics, whether this means having the imagination to see them in something that already exists, or else manipulating objects as if they were puppets.

Originally posted by DrAchoo:

but you aren't getting my vote.

Oh horrors.