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01/03/2007 08:26:08 PM · #1 |
This isn't directly related to the most recently locked thread but it did make me think about it again...
Why are threads essentially considered the property of the original poster, to be locked at their request? I know that this has always been the policy but I don't really see why. It seems to me that once you initiate a conversation with the community, it should belong to the community and only be locked when it runs afoul of site rules. Otherwise, the forums become more of a soapbox than a dialog. Maybe if this were the case, people would think harder before starting new threads. Anyway, just curious. |
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01/03/2007 08:26:51 PM · #2 |
I agree. This thread is now mine.
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01/03/2007 08:28:29 PM · #3 |
I reserve the right to elbow Yanko out of the way and claim ownership for myself.
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01/03/2007 08:29:53 PM · #4 |
Nooo its mine!!!! *Clings to it*
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01/03/2007 08:30:36 PM · #5 |
| This thread needs some photos don't you think? |
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01/03/2007 08:30:50 PM · #6 |
I'm gonna be nice and hand it back to mk.
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01/03/2007 08:31:12 PM · #7 |
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01/03/2007 08:31:38 PM · #8 |
(But I am actually curious.)
(For real.) |
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01/03/2007 08:33:10 PM · #9 |
SC can we lock this thread?
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01/03/2007 08:34:37 PM · #10 |
Originally posted by fotomann_forever:
SC can we lock this thread? |
We can't. It appears mk has all the locks. |
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01/03/2007 08:34:51 PM · #11 |
Originally posted by quiet_observation:
This thread needs some photos don't you think? |
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01/03/2007 08:35:41 PM · #12 |
Originally posted by mk:
...Why are threads essentially considered the property of the original poster, to be locked at their request? I know that this has always been the policy but I don't really see why. It seems to me that once you initiate a conversation with the community, it should belong to the community and only be locked when it runs afoul of site rules. Otherwise, the forums become more of a soapbox than a dialog. Maybe if this were the case, people would think harder before starting new threads. Anyway, just curious. |
I'm in complete agreement (as usual). I see this Soapbox Phenomenon happening over and over...the only exception that I can remember was in the first Good Evening thread. In that case, if I recall correctly, there were specific statements by the SC that the OP doesn't "own" a thread, and that everyone in the community that desires to do so may participate in a thread.
Too bad the tide seems to be turning. If you put something on the Internet, it ought to be fair game for discussion unless and until it violates site TOS.
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01/03/2007 08:40:07 PM · #13 |
I agree with mk and L2. I don't see that the OP has any more right to lock a thread than anyone else involved in it. Although SC do follow requests from OPs to keep the peace, I'd rather not. It's like if 2 politicians were having a debate, the one who started it can't suddenly make the other shut up. At least, not without looking like a fool and losing the respect of the public. Even worse if he were debating WITH the public and then made ALL of them shut up.
To put it shortly, I don't see the point in locking a thread unless it is really turning into something off-topic or against the TOS.
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01/03/2007 08:41:29 PM · #14 |
| Ok since seriousness seems to be breaking out I'll ask. Where did this idea come from? I didn't know the OP had any power. Are they the only ones that can request a thread be locked? |
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01/03/2007 08:43:21 PM · #15 |
| [burns the damn soapbox to the ground] |
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01/03/2007 08:45:50 PM · #16 |
Originally posted by yanko:
Ok since seriousness seems to be breaking out I'll ask. Where did this idea come from? I didn't know the OP had any power. Are they the only ones that can request a thread be locked? |
Anyone can request it, but the SC will only lock it if they deem it needs to be locked.
On the other hand, if the OP requests it, precident shows SC will lock it no matter what.
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01/03/2007 08:49:02 PM · #17 |
Originally posted by L2:
Originally posted by mk:
...Why are threads essentially considered the property of the original poster, to be locked at their request? I know that this has always been the policy but I don't really see why. It seems to me that once you initiate a conversation with the community, it should belong to the community and only be locked when it runs afoul of site rules. Otherwise, the forums become more of a soapbox than a dialog. Maybe if this were the case, people would think harder before starting new threads. Anyway, just curious. |
I'm in complete agreement (as usual). I see this Soapbox Phenomenon happening over and over...the only exception that I can remember was in the first Good Evening thread. In that case, if I recall correctly, there were specific statements by the SC that the OP doesn't "own" a thread, and that everyone in the community that desires to do so may participate in a thread.
Too bad the tide seems to be turning. If you put something on the Internet, it ought to be fair game for discussion unless and until it violates site TOS. |
Agreed.
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01/03/2007 08:54:53 PM · #18 |
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01/03/2007 08:57:29 PM · #19 |
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01/03/2007 09:43:55 PM · #20 |
Originally posted by Konador:
On the other hand, if the OP requests it, precident shows SC will lock it no matter what. |
I don't think that's entirely true -- it depends on the type of thread.
If someone asks a specific question and it's answered, there's little point in keeping a thread active just to veer off into 68 unrelated topics.
If, however, an OP raises a more general issue -- for example what do people like to use as duotone combinations -- I wouldn't lock the thread just because the OP has had enough, if there's an active discussion of duotones going on. But if the discussion has progressed to tofu recipes ... |
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01/03/2007 09:52:21 PM · #21 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
If someone asks a specific question and it's answered, there's little point in keeping a thread active just to veer off into 68 unrelated topics.
If, however, an OP raises a more general issue -- for example what do people like to use as duotone combinations -- I wouldn't lock the thread just because the OP has had enough, if there's an active discussion of duotones going on. But if the discussion has progressed to tofu recipes ... |
But even if the topic changes how does this merrit locking the thread? If the OP (whatever that stands for) has received his/her answer then they can just abandon the thread and let everyone else continue their learning experience on tofu recipes... |
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01/03/2007 09:52:48 PM · #22 |
All your base are belong to us
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01/03/2007 10:45:30 PM · #23 |
| Mk I agree with you too. Some people have definite agendas in starting a thread, and when "their thread" doesn't go as planned they ask for it to be locked, not accomplishing anything besides getting other people upset. |
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01/03/2007 10:55:29 PM · #24 |
Originally posted by skylercall:
Originally posted by GeneralE:
If someone asks a specific question and it's answered, there's little point in keeping a thread active just to veer off into 68 unrelated topics.
If, however, an OP raises a more general issue -- for example what do people like to use as duotone combinations -- I wouldn't lock the thread just because the OP has had enough, if there's an active discussion of duotones going on. But if the discussion has progressed to tofu recipes ... |
But even if the topic changes how does this merrit locking the thread? If the OP (whatever that stands for) has received his/her answer then they can just abandon the thread and let everyone else continue their learning experience on tofu recipes... |
Only because a thread titled Duotone Settings? but filled with people sharing recipes isn't truly "open" to new participants; rather, it has become a semi-private chat room for the hangers-on from the original discussion. It neither lets the person looking for Duotone info to find it as readily, nor entice people looking for tofu recipes to browse it from the home page.
Message edited by author 2007-01-03 22:56:10. |
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01/03/2007 11:01:02 PM · #25 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Only because a thread titled Duotone Settings? but filled with people sharing recipes isn't truly "open" to new participants; rather, it has become a semi-private chat room for the hangers-on from the original discussion. It neither lets the person looking for Duotone info to find it as readily, nor entice people looking for tofu recipes to browse it from the home page. |
Oh, but we so love to hang-on to over-due threads... now, where is that tofu recipe?
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