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10/08/2003 09:01:27 AM · #1 |
Well, I'm confused. I always thought something ironic meant sort of an opposite meaning. Example - A sign that reads "welcome to beautiful Green Forest" - - and all the trees have been cut down. Or better yet, the 2nd place photo in the Irony Challenge. So when I saw the winning photo for irony, I was confused and figured I was wrong. So I went to dictionary.com and it states "The use of words to express something different from and often opposite to their literal meaning.".
I'm not complaining, I didn't even enter this challenge, and congrats to the winner. I guess I'm just surprised that so many people misunderstood what irony is.
(The winning photo to me is funny, but not a sample of irony.)
Am I alone on this? I know that each challenge is interpreted a little differently, but so many comments were left on the winning photo about how ironic it was. |
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10/08/2003 09:03:43 AM · #2 |
whoops! went through twice
Message edited by author 2003-10-08 09:05:53.
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10/08/2003 09:05:29 AM · #3 |
Might be ironic that they just put the sign at that location?
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10/08/2003 09:07:35 AM · #4 |
| The literal meaning of the sign is the road is a dead end, the none literal meaning relates to the the fact it's in a graveyeard. Hence, I'd say, the disparity between literal and non-literal meaning is ironic. |
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10/08/2003 09:08:08 AM · #5 |
| Coincidence maybe, but not ironic. Maybe if the sign read "No Cemeteries Nearby" (which doesn't make any sense, but portrays an example of irony)... |
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10/08/2003 09:10:18 AM · #6 |
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10/08/2003 09:11:18 AM · #7 |
if it does it's only because there were so many ponces dishing out low scores because it didnt meet their hardass definition of 'irony'.
making it 'ironic' that a non-ironic shot won .. :)
Originally posted by bod:
Does it really matter? |
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10/08/2003 09:12:18 AM · #8 |
| PaulMdx - That sort of makes sense. I guess this was one of those challenges that is just hard to define. |
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10/08/2003 09:45:31 AM · #9 |
I think you missed the point. The cemetary symbolizes the immortal memories of those who perished. Although the body is dead, the memories and love lives on. Hence the irony with the dead end sign.
Ouch. I think I pulled a muscle with that stretch. |
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10/08/2003 10:09:06 AM · #10 |
But isn't it ironic that it won? :)
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10/08/2003 10:56:50 AM · #11 |
| Maybe I'll just say that since the sign is made of metal (iron?) that it's irony. |
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10/08/2003 11:04:42 AM · #12 |
The thing is, there is more than one definition of irony. For example, the definition I used is, "Incongruity between what might be expected and what actually occurs." I felt that my image displayed this, but alot of people didn't get my image. Oh well. 21st place out of 131 insn't all bad:)
Message edited by author 2003-10-08 15:20:39. |
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10/08/2003 03:02:54 PM · #13 |
| G4Ds - I really thought yours was gonna do better than that. At least in the top 10. oh well... |
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10/08/2003 03:14:29 PM · #14 |
| We are here from all over the word and we never can understand things similary. Like what is nice to do or what is a good breakfast. Even next-door man do not understand this same humor as you. Is this not so? |
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10/08/2003 03:47:14 PM · #15 |
| When you ask a mechanic how to write a sonnet, you may get the kind of response we got here. |
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10/08/2003 04:00:09 PM · #16 |
| I think that the discription for irony was to vague and there were to many interuptations for the challenge. Seems around here if things aren't spelled out word for word those who can't see out of the little box can't handle it. |
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10/08/2003 04:14:27 PM · #17 |
Originally posted by OneSweetSin:
I think that the discription for irony was to vague and there were to many interuptations for the challenge. Seems around here if things aren't spelled out word for word those who can't see out of the little box can't handle it. |
I'd personally prefer more vague challenge definitions.
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10/08/2003 04:17:25 PM · #18 |
Originally posted by Gordon:
Originally posted by OneSweetSin:
I think that the discription for irony was to vague and there were to many interuptations for the challenge. Seems around here if things aren't spelled out word for word those who can't see out of the little box can't handle it. |
I'd personally prefer more vague challenge definitions. |
So do I, it starts such interesting threads to keep me amused throughout the day :-)
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10/08/2003 04:22:05 PM · #19 |
Originally posted by kiwiness:
So do I, it starts such interesting threads to keep me amused throughout the day :-) |
ROTFLMAO!!! |
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10/08/2003 04:33:02 PM · #20 |
On a roadsign, the term "dead" is used figuratively (except in certain large cities), but for cemeteries it is obviously being used literally. The unexpected juxtaposition is what creates the irony.
When you are driving and see a "dead end" sign you generally DON'T expect to see actual dead bodies, except in ...)
This may be one of the reasons many communities are changing their signage to read "No Outlet" instead ... |
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10/08/2003 05:05:31 PM · #21 |
irony [Gr. eironeia > dissembling, an antonym for alazon, a bully or braggart.
Whether deliberate or incidental, the author or speaker demands that the audience perceive a concealed meaning that lies beneath his surface statement.
This points toward an essential ingredient of subtlety for an ironic intent to succeed. The subtlety, as well, requires a capability on part of the audience to perceive the finesse.
On the classic Greek stage, this (also) was not always a given. When it was not, I speculate, the audience was ridiculed, which, in turn, points at a latent use of irony, namely the only means to defend a finer sense against a barbaric one.
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10/08/2003 05:12:14 PM · #22 |
| Wow - Zeuszen after all the discussions on Irony I think you've defined it best. Too bad that didn't go out before the challenge. |
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