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10/08/2006 12:53:33 PM · #51
Originally posted by fotomann_forever:

Edit: Not sure stereotypical is the right word, it sounds a bit crtitical of the work --- which I don't mean it to be.


Not to worry; stereotypes can be both good and bad, actually. And there definitely WAS an "ideal" of those times, a la June Cleaver etc, that a lot of women busted their hearts trying to live up to...

R.
10/08/2006 12:54:21 PM · #52
Thanks, bear. The square crop does kick it up and it looks like you punched it up another notch with some more processing too. A little more saturation?
10/08/2006 12:57:11 PM · #53
I wanted to enter this one



But I know from experience that photos that include the American flag can get beat up.

So I entered this one



I liked the flag shot better.
Any feedback is appreciated
10/08/2006 01:38:00 PM · #54
This was my outtake:

10/08/2006 01:42:15 PM · #55
Originally posted by routerguy666:

This was my outtake:



Nice shot, but you made the right decision with your entry IMO.
10/08/2006 01:55:05 PM · #56
Originally posted by fotomann_forever:

Originally posted by routerguy666:

This was my outtake:



Nice shot, but you made the right decision with your entry IMO.


I agree. I think Drift was superior.
10/08/2006 01:58:36 PM · #57
This is my image before I cropped it...

I think my biggest mistake was taking such a small crop from an ISO 800 shot. My other mistake was I used Vivid (chroma) color setting with full hard sharpening. This gives it a max saturation. I tried softening it up in post, but as you can tell from my score, I failed miserably. Another live and learn experience.
10/08/2006 02:12:01 PM · #58
Originally posted by digitalknight:

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I think this one would have done better. It grabs my attention more...not just your average sweet baby portrait. The one you entered is better than the other crop you posted of the same portrait.
10/08/2006 02:16:10 PM · #59
Originally posted by scarbrd:

I wanted to enter this one



But I know from experience that photos that include the American flag can get beat up.

So I entered this one



I liked the flag shot better.
Any feedback is appreciated


My personal opinion: Stick with what you WANT to enter. If you like the picture better, go with it, and stand up for what you believe in. It's a good picture. I like the shadows and the varied expressions on the face of the children.
10/08/2006 02:25:21 PM · #60
Originally posted by pixeldust:

Originally posted by digitalknight:

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I think this one would have done better. It grabs my attention more...not just your average sweet baby portrait. The one you entered is better than the other crop you posted of the same portrait.


Well, great! I quoted the wrong post...must have newby stamped across my forehead in bold letters. I was trying to reply to JRalston on the "I should have entered this one."
10/08/2006 03:23:45 PM · #61


A friend let me try his fisheye lens. Fun stuff (the lens).

Edit: posted wrong picture

Message edited by author 2006-10-08 15:24:48.
10/08/2006 05:36:07 PM · #62





Message edited by author 2006-10-08 19:18:59.
10/08/2006 06:16:36 PM · #63
Original:


Alternate 1:


and the same image processed differently

Alternate 2:


I like 'em all so whether one would've done better than the other doesn't matter too much to me.
10/08/2006 07:58:31 PM · #64
Cropped as Entered


Original (uncropped)


In truth, I really want to see this break 6.0 and was kind of bummed that it did not do so. About the only constructive input I got was regarding some of the noise in the background which came about in part during the re-size post-processing.

Would love any further input on what to improve. I just really was hoping for this shot to be in the upper 25% of entries.

Message edited by author 2006-10-08 19:58:55.
10/08/2006 08:19:44 PM · #65
My entry:


My outtakes:


I really struggled to make the final decision over which one to enter. I'm pretty pleased with my score, but I'm still not sure I made the right choice.
10/08/2006 08:24:48 PM · #66
Originally posted by DrAchoo:



I was fairly torn between the one I entered and this one which feels different.


What? And left the red out? You better be glad you're married! I hope she got value equal to the 5d you got. As for mojos, if you sold that one to me I'd demand a refund or at least an exclusivity clause. ;)
10/09/2006 03:55:53 AM · #67
The decision was not easy to me. I like both shots similarly.

My entry:


Alternate:
10/09/2006 04:49:42 AM · #68

my entry:

ave. 5.5753

I think I did a really lousy job in my post processing.

my other edit: (less blown-out)



other outtakes, same location:






10/09/2006 07:55:56 AM · #69
Ok, by the comments that I received, many people said my husband face was to red, but his skin is naturally this coloring, so if I reduced the red, the other colors would have changed, especially with the bird. I tried black and white, but found it to harsh for my liking, so then tried this one, in sepia tones.

"My Best Friend".

This is the origional, "Best Friends"
10/09/2006 12:43:56 PM · #70
Originally posted by Prism:

Thanks, bear. The square crop does kick it up and it looks like you punched it up another notch with some more processing too. A little more saturation?


Contrast masking to bring out a little more detail and then a +10 or so in overall saturation, plus some sharpening, is what I did. It was a quickie...

R.
10/09/2006 01:02:29 PM · #71
I almost entered this for some reason, but knew that I'd get hammered for the centered crop (amongst other things).

10/09/2006 02:16:29 PM · #72
For those that did not like the neg space on my entry here is similar shot and a totally unrelated one that was nice but a bit quaint for this challange

10/09/2006 03:02:45 PM · #73
More outtakes from my Free Study shoot Warning - lingerie shoot.
10/09/2006 03:47:19 PM · #74
Originally posted by fotomann_forever:

Originally posted by DrAchoo:


OK DK, give us your vision on this, since I, for one, have missed it so many times. With the rest of the shots I see it as a commentary on the barren lifestyle of the '50s life (a la the neighbor's mother in American Beauty)...


That's what I am seeing myself -- the lack of fulfilment in the life of a (stereo)typical 50's housewife.

Edit: Not sure stereotypical is the right word, it sounds a bit crtitical of the work --- which I don't mean it to be.


well, since I don't see the photographer speaking up yet, I am going to offer my own opinion on this. I think the photo fails to do what you are suggesting. He is instead creating more of an effect than a message. The desert (and the salt flat works as a desert in this photo) is one of the favorite landscapes of Surrealists (certainly for Dali), because it is so blank... it begs to be filled by the mind. Incongruous items placed in a desert lose their usual touch with reality and float there merely as concepts which can then be explored. digitalknight has merely to place some iconic "objects" in this context, i.e. "housewife" and "bed", to start the mind whirling. I agree that it is a "50s housewife," but would suggest this is simply because that is the most iconic of housewives (perhaps as a purposeful overreaction to the women who entered the workforce during world war II). More to the point than "50s-ness" is emptiness: note that there is no bed in the frame, and no shoes on her feet. Her chair is white and blandly curves outward, almost disappearing into the background. The subtext is that she is "barren," for some reason unable to fulfill her stereotypical mother role, and since she is a stereotype, floating in the mind, this is a critical problem. Her very identity is at stake here. Yet she is too trapped in her stereotype even to express her despair. The barrenness we feel is not transmitted in the usual, simplistic way, i.e. I see a model who is sad and therefore I am sad, but rather as a series of signs that we must interpret. For me, that creates a far more devestating effect.

To be honest, I didn't see all this until now. I thought it was merely Surrealistic, but then my eyes moved from the hollow bed to her bare, vulnerable legs surrounded by the white legs of her chair, and it hit me like a ton of bricks.

and now that I've done all this work, I will add this to the photo comments as well.
10/10/2006 10:55:29 PM · #75

Here is the one I entered


Here is an outtake.

I liked the hue to the image...but I guess no one else did.What do you think about this other one?
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