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10/26/2006 11:06:17 AM · #51 |
I think that this has to best thread I've ever read here at DPC. I'm not sure why.
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10/26/2006 11:24:42 AM · #52 |
This seems to be Bryan's web site. You can find his email if you click the "Contact" link.
//www.bryanfpeterson.com/
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10/26/2006 11:27:02 AM · #53 |
Originally posted by metatate:
I think that this has to best thread I've ever read here at DPC. I'm not sure why. |
Me too! It illustrates how people react when they are asked to question what they see. |
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10/26/2006 11:30:56 AM · #54 |
| Man, this is just sad. All my heroes are turning out to be, well, just normal people. Oh well. |
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10/26/2006 11:45:04 AM · #55 |
Adding (cloning) the fish farthest from the bear and putting it in front of the bear certainly added to the "drama" of the photograph. Whoever did the hack job must have been in a hurry. Had whoever did this just removed the original fish after moving/cloning it to the front, it probably would have been passed right over.
It is a bummer to see this come up in one of Bryan's books. :(
edit to add, it's also a pain having to scroll this page to the right to view all the text with that wide (large) image hosing the layout of this thread. :D
Message edited by author 2006-10-26 11:46:39. |
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10/26/2006 12:01:34 PM · #56 |
Originally posted by glad2badad:
edit to add, it's also a pain having to scroll this page to the right to view all the text with that wide (large) image hosing the layout of this thread. :D |
what monitor size/resolution are you using? i can fit it all on a 19" |
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10/26/2006 12:07:05 PM · #57 |
| Just for fun, I sent Mr. Peterson an email asking him to visit this thread and respond... perhaps he will. I'm sure he's a very busy man. |
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10/26/2006 12:09:07 PM · #58 |
Originally posted by nards656:
Just for fun, I sent Mr. Peterson an email asking him to visit this thread and respond... perhaps he will. I'm sure he's a very busy man. |
Cool! |
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10/26/2006 12:15:59 PM · #59 |
Originally posted by ursula:
Man, this is just sad. All my heroes are turning out to be, well, just normal people. Oh well. |
Don't worry, Ursula, some people will never be normal.
This discussion reminds me of that famous line from Hamlet, "To clone, or not to clone... that is the question"
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10/26/2006 12:20:29 PM · #60 |
Originally posted by slide12345678:
Originally posted by glad2badad:
edit to add, it's also a pain having to scroll this page to the right to view all the text with that wide (large) image hosing the layout of this thread. :D |
what monitor size/resolution are you using? i can fit it all on a 19" |
17", 1024 x 768 resolution (which as of March 2006 is the most common configuration by the community here at DPC).
Seeing how the image you've posted is nearly 900 pixels wide you may want to read this => Check Item #5. :-) |
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10/26/2006 12:23:36 PM · #61 |
Originally posted by glad2badad:
Originally posted by slide12345678:
Originally posted by glad2badad:
edit to add, it's also a pain having to scroll this page to the right to view all the text with that wide (large) image hosing the layout of this thread. :D |
what monitor size/resolution are you using? i can fit it all on a 19" |
17", 1024 x 768 resolution (which as of March 2006 is the most common configuration by the community here at DPC).
Seeing how the image you've posted is nearly 900 pixels wide you may want to read this => Check Item #5. :-) |
sorry, i'm new :P
i must have been reading those rules too fast last time i looked at them |
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10/26/2006 12:30:17 PM · #62 |
Originally posted by glad2badad:
Originally posted by slide12345678:
Originally posted by glad2badad:
edit to add, it's also a pain having to scroll this page to the right to view all the text with that wide (large) image hosing the layout of this thread. :D |
what monitor size/resolution are you using? i can fit it all on a 19" |
17", 1024 x 768 resolution (which as of March 2006 is the most common configuration by the community here at DPC).
Seeing how the image you've posted is nearly 900 pixels wide you may want to read this => Check Item #5. :-) |
Man you are like the DPC cops. :-P |
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10/26/2006 12:34:37 PM · #63 |
Originally posted by stdavidson:
Originally posted by ursula:
Man, this is just sad. All my heroes are turning out to be, well, just normal people. Oh well. |
Don't worry, Ursula, some people will never be normal.
This discussion reminds me of that famous line from Hamlet, "To clone, or not to clone... that is the question" |
Yeah, what's normal anyway - earwax?
I love that line from Hamlet! Shakespeare was a visionary, no doubt about it, just a normal visionary.
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10/26/2006 12:39:28 PM · #64 |
Originally posted by thegrandwazoo:
Originally posted by glad2badad:
Originally posted by slide12345678:
Originally posted by glad2badad:
edit to add, it's also a pain having to scroll this page to the right to view all the text with that wide (large) image hosing the layout of this thread. :D |
what monitor size/resolution are you using? i can fit it all on a 19" |
17", 1024 x 768 resolution (which as of March 2006 is the most common configuration by the community here at DPC).
Seeing how the image you've posted is nearly 900 pixels wide you may want to read this => Check Item #5. :-) |
Man you are like the DPC cops. :-P |
THERE ARE NO DPC COPS! Please remember that. Their existence is just a rumour. No humour there. |
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10/26/2006 12:42:09 PM · #65 |
Originally posted by ursula:
THERE ARE NO DPC COPS! Please remember that. Their existence is just a rumour. No humour there. |
Roger that! Over?
:-P |
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10/26/2006 12:48:28 PM · #66 |
Originally posted by slide12345678:
... sorry, i'm new :P ... |
No problem Justin. I wish I had a 19" or bigger monitor here. :D
Snow flying yet in your neck of the woods? I grew up not far from where you are, in the Hagar Shores/Riverside area (not sure if that's on the map. He-he. Just south of South Haven). |
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10/26/2006 01:35:41 PM · #67 |
Originally posted by glad2badad:
Originally posted by slide12345678:
... sorry, i'm new :P ... |
No problem Justin. I wish I had a 19" or bigger monitor here. :D
Snow flying yet in your neck of the woods? I grew up not far from where you are, in the Hagar Shores/Riverside area (not sure if that's on the map. He-he. Just south of South Haven). |
we've had a couple light dustings, but nothing that stuck yet! |
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10/26/2006 02:00:44 PM · #68 |
Originally posted by thegrandwazoo:
Originally posted by ursula:
THERE ARE NO DPC COPS! Please remember that. Their existence is just a rumour. No humour there. |
Roger that! Over?
:-P |
Out |
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10/26/2006 02:10:24 PM · #69 |
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10/26/2006 02:43:38 PM · #70 |
Originally posted by greatandsmall:
Originally posted by metatate:
I think that this has to best thread I've ever read here at DPC. I'm not sure why. |
Me too! It illustrates how people react when they are asked to question what they see. |
For me it was like having fun with one of those "find the 7 things wrong with this picture" puzzles. (Yes, I AM childish... oops, I mean child-LIKE at 4am :D ) |
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10/28/2006 01:32:38 PM · #71 |
Okay, I normally don't bump threads back onto the front page, and I have read this thread in its entirety, but what i still don't get is, "What is the big deal."
It was a book on exposure. IF he cloned a fish in, what does that change? There is two or three fish instead of one. Take them back out and you still have a good picture. Now, if I find out that in his book on exposure he is photoshopping the heck out of everything to fix exposure problems, I would have a big problem.
OR if this picture was dealing with composition or something, it would be different to me.
I'm more disappointed in those sites that get linked to frequently showing the PS'ing wizardry that goes on in advertisements and stuff.
What I tend to forget frequently is that the world is not dpc. It's not "illegal" to "doctor" your pictures.
Obviously, this is the opinion of karmat the user, not karmat the sC. If you clone a fish into your next challenge entry, I will vote for it to be dq'ed. :P |
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10/28/2006 01:42:29 PM · #72 |
Hello karmat the user. How's western NC going? :D
At first my thoughts were similar to yours but then I read where Peterson talked about how lucky he was to get a clear shot of the bear and the salmon in the same shot. If he hadn't made such a comment I wouldn't think it was such a big deal. However, I do think it's a bit deceitful for him to clone in this case.
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10/28/2006 01:44:09 PM · #73 |
Originally posted by karmat:
Okay, I normally don't bump threads back onto the front page, and I have read this thread in its entirety, but what i still don't get is, "What is the big deal." |
The guy's a pretty famous nature photographer. There's a very rigid ethic in nature photography not too dissimilar from our basic editing rules. Cloning OUT of objects is a no-no, let alone cloning them IN. You see this debated with great acrimony in sites dedicated to nature photography, again not unlike here. These people tend to be purists.
So if he DID clone in the fishes to "improve" his picture, he has committed a great "sin" in many of his peers' eyes, basically. It's sort of the equivalent of when that pop star got caught lip-synching, whoever that was :-)
R. |
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10/28/2006 03:14:51 PM · #74 |
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10/28/2006 03:20:49 PM · #75 |
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
Originally posted by karmat:
Okay, I normally don't bump threads back onto the front page, and I have read this thread in its entirety, but what i still don't get is, "What is the big deal." |
The guy's a pretty famous nature photographer. There's a very rigid ethic in nature photography not too dissimilar from our basic editing rules. Cloning OUT of objects is a no-no, let alone cloning them IN. You see this debated with great acrimony in sites dedicated to nature photography, again not unlike here. These people tend to be purists.
So if he DID clone in the fishes to "improve" his picture, he has committed a great "sin" in many of his peers' eyes, basically. It's sort of the equivalent of when that pop star got caught lip-synching, whoever that was :-)
R. |
Art Wolfe is a pretty famous nature photographer. Whole lot more
famous than Bryan.
Didn't stop him.
Reposted link
Message edited by author 2006-10-28 15:21:32. |
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