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08/12/2003 06:43:02 PM · #26 |
Olyuzi,
Thanks for that interpretation :) I would have never looked at this photo that way myself :)
If I had to place a bet on the photographer's intent with this particular image, I would bet that it's a simple 'meet the challenge' photograph with no particular 'intent'. I think the photographer saw an opportunity to capture a candid moment of two participants in a simple game of chess. However, this candid shutter click just happened to be an excellent moment in time in my opinion.
To me, photojournalistic photos in general don't do well on dpchallenge. They may strike interest in a few voters (like chess moves did with me) but I really believe that they work better when they are used in their original intent... to accompany a story. The photos are not designed to really stand on their own as much as they are to support a story.
I would like to wrap up my comments on 'chess moves' by saying that I feel that it's a great photo. It's a bit of photojournalism that seems to tell several stories, depending on who is viewing the image. Since this photo was done in a journalistic style, I kept that in mind when 'judging' it and let my opinion of how well that photo works in that particular style be my guide....
My next post in this thread will highlight a photograph that is done in a different style....
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08/12/2003 07:02:51 PM · #27 |
The Bottom Line - by Moodville
Here's a photo that brings up another category of photography for me. This is somewhat 'photojournalistic' but not really... For me, this photo has a good 'humor' value and the title of this photo 'integrates' with the image rather than explaining it to me.
Moodville managed to capture a moment in time with her camera in a journalistic way, but, for me, the humor value of this photo separates it from normal photojournalism. There is nothing about this photo in the technical excellence area that really peaks my interest at all. What peaks my interest here is the 'being in the right place at the right time and being ready to go with the camera' aspect of it. To me, this is good photography. It strikes emotion in me by making me chuckle when i look at it :) This is the kind of photo that wins contests... maybe not on dpchallenge, but I think this would do very well in other environments :)
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08/12/2003 09:07:02 PM · #28 |
I would just like to add that it is just impossible to generalize about what makes a good photograph, or what photography is great for...
Now since we were on the subject of technical attributes not always being relevant to a photo.... I happened to take one yesterday, which I love, but I can't really describe any nice "technical" attributes
couple walking
This old couple just looked romantic to me. They were walking off together, arm in arm, through my neighboorhood with the graffitti, concrete, and tire tracks everywhere. I thought that, for me, it was a good image to represent an enduring marriage or partnership (they could be having an affair for all I know).
Message edited by author 2003-08-12 21:07:49. |
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08/12/2003 09:11:56 PM · #29 |
John:
Thanks for this great thread. The quality of threads lately is rather depressing. I agree completely with your ideas about viewing photography and I think it's important that someone with the respect that you have earned on here comes out and says that DPC is not the end-all of rating photographs. This site is an excellent learning tool for technical aspects (although I am actually finding less of that lately) and also a nice way of finding out if the emotional and humorous aspects of your photo were appreciated by a few people as well.
The discussion of the Chess Moves photo was very interesting. It's nice to see how different people interepret an image in very different ways based on their backgrounds.
Moodville's bottom line shot is a super example of a catching the moment shot. I often find that my own spur of the moment shots are some of my favorites even if they aren't technically the best because they are different and help me remember a specific event that makes me smile.
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08/12/2003 10:29:58 PM · #30 |
Yay! Congratulations all -- this is an excellent thread.
I have been a fan of photography forEVER, but had never moved beyond a small 35mm camera until last summer for cost reasons. I hovered around a lot of photo sites for quite some time before I got up the nerve to join them.
In my time at DPC, I've learned TONS about the technical aspects of photography: lighting, DOF, shadow, contrast, color, etc... I've also learned one very important thing: I hate taking setup shots.
I've just decided that I much rather enjoy using my newfound talents to capture moments in time instead of just images. I couldn't get a
setup shots of corndogs that is as fun as this.
I just feel like if I were to spend a lot of time inside, sweating over the details, I'd be missing out on a whole lot more elsewhere.
Just my two cents...
Thanks again for this thread, John.
Rob
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08/13/2003 12:23:45 AM · #31 |
| I voted my first couple of challenges by simply assessing how the photograph affected me and positioning it relative to how the others affected me. I was afraid that I was being too subjective with my voting, so I started to assess both technical and challenge related aspects of the photograph and then add up the points to get a score. Now you have me wondering if I haven't wondered off track. Perhaps next time I will return to voting based on how the photograph impacts me and then comment on the technical aspects in order to share thoughts on how the photographs impact might be improved. |
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08/13/2003 12:28:53 AM · #32 |
Nusbaum, You bring up a very interesting point. How does one go about voting? subjective, how it makes me feel or objective, technical merit only. I cannot tell you how to vote, and I would have difficulty telling you how I vote, even as I tend to sway back and forth. If you think it is a good picture, be it subjective or objective opinions, go with it.
I have learned it is a whole lot more fun to just look at the pictures and enjoy them with voting being a secondary activity.
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08/13/2003 03:28:45 AM · #33 |
Probably my favourite photo here at DPC, by heida. It's not very sharp at all, but has such a feeling to it that I didn't notice its lack of sharp focus (perhaps intentional) until I read the other comments.
Likewise, this shot by imagesloyola has elelments which might be considered undesireable (branch top right probably wasn't intentional) but again is one of my top favourites because of the feel of it.
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08/13/2003 04:29:08 AM · #34 |
jimmythefish: those are two excellent examples; powerful emotive shots that use light and focus in nontraditional ways that I think add to the feeling in them.
On this topic, I just got back from seeing the movie "28 days later", which I thought had some really excellent photographic work but with low end cameras. It really shows that the artist has the power and not the equipment. Sure, it helps to have good equipment, that thousand dollar camera with all the lenses you could ever want, but sometimes what works the best is your old disposable camera. It's all about feeling and creativity. |
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