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03/26/2006 10:08:24 AM · #58

Originally posted by eschelar:

It's possible that the person on the phone misunderstood and thought that the credit/debit card had been directly used to pay for the camera. If the product was not delivered, there would be recourse. In this case, though, the card was used to pay for a Western Union money transfer. THAT service was delivered, so BoA has no grounds for charging back Western Union.

Probably just a simple misunderstanding on the part of the customer service rep.

~Terry

Bear_Music

Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra

Sony 24-70mm F4 Vario-Tessar T* FE OSS

03/26/2006 12:31:12 PM · #59

Originally posted by ClubJuggle:

Originally posted by eschelar:
Woah, Double Bummer.

Sorry to hear that.

It was nice that BoA should give you such a rosy false impression then dump you...

What exactly did they mean in the first place if they don't actually have real policy to help? And if they don't have any such policy, what business do they have in making such claims over the phone? Yeesh!

It's possible that the person on the phone misunderstood and thought that the credit/debit card had been directly used to pay for the camera. If the product was not delivered, there would be recourse. In this case, though, the card was used to pay for a Western Union money transfer. THAT service was delivered, so BoA has no grounds for charging back Western Union.

Probably just a simple misunderstanding on the part of the customer service rep.

~Terry

Or miscommunication on the part of the customer, for that matter.

"Did you use a credit card to pay for this transaction?"

"Yes."

"Then you're covered."

Wrong, as Terry pointed out; the CC was used to purchase a money order from Western Union, not to purchase a camera. Bummer indeed, but good attitude. I've always thought everybody needed to get scammed once in their life, just to put them on their toes for the REST of their life...

Robt.

Neil

Fujifilm X-T30

Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 24-70mm f/2.8G ED

03/26/2006 12:41:56 PM · #60

Sorry to hear this.

Don't forget to write them up on resellerratings.com.

You should write to your state and their state attourney general as well, and maybe the better business bureau.

I hope in good Kharma the money comes back to you somehow.

ElGordo

Sigma 18-200mm f/3.5-6.3 DC OS for Canon

03/26/2006 12:53:57 PM · #61

You have a great attitude, Trecia. I know it hurts to lose that much, especially knowing that some jerk profited by a successful scam. You were not the first to be taken in by one these scams and certainly will not be the last!
A city in Eastern New Mexico (name withheld to protect the stupid) fell for one those "Nigerian" scams, sending the scammers the city's bank account info along with access information. They were 'cleaned out' in short order! In all these 'Nigerian' scams, the perpetrators depend on the victim being amenable to a 'touch of larceny'. The line usually goes something like this: "My husband's uncle was the president of Timbuktu until his assassination last year. Now his Swiss bank account is unavailable for transfer to a Timbuktu bank, therefore we need an accomplice in the U.S. with a bank account to assist. We will pay you 25% of the funds ($14.6 million) in exchange for your help"

Pugilist

Sony DSC-H1

03/28/2006 01:50:08 PM · #62

An update, they have changed their name but did not change their testimonials:

//chembiotin.com/testimonials.php

Same key-rap though.

colyla

Canon EOS-50D

Canon EF 16-35mm f/2.8L USM II

03/28/2006 02:00:21 PM · #63

Man! Same exact info but different website name!!!

Isn't there someone that this information can be sent to????

Message edited by author 2006-03-28 14:02:38.

03/28/2006 02:36:51 PM · #64

heeeheee...I went to "look" around the site and everything i click on i get this..."Warning: mysql_connect(): User chembiotinDB has already more than 'max_user_connections' active connections in /home/www/chembiotin/includes/functions/database.php on line 20
Unable to connect to database server!"

maybe we can keep them locked up and from stealing anyone elses money!

sorry..I got a mean streak for thieves and con artists

03/28/2006 02:43:43 PM · #65

I just read this under "terms and conditions of sale"

""All our prices are firm. Prices are subject to change without notice.
We cannot process orders with a value less than US $699. Sorry for inconvenience.
The maximum order for the first transaction is US $5,000.00.

Now they have a minimun on how much they're gonna rip someone off for???? Something has to be able to be done...make them stop!

Message edited by author 2006-03-28 14:44:42.

03/28/2006 02:45:50 PM · #66

Hey Lesidhe, maybe this will help...

I know it's hard. I'd be half tempted to go to Brooklyn see if they have the camera I ordered. If they do, ask to see a copy. Then, walk out with it. If they come running open the trenchcoat and let them be face to face with both Smith and Wesson. But that's cause I'm sick of the planet earth.

And mainly, that this !@#$% happens every day and our government won't do jack about it. I'm sorry, complain to the Better Business Bureau is the only option we get. Hell, for what we pay in taxes....it's crap.

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Nikon AF Zoom-Nikkor 24-85mm f2.8-4.0D

03/28/2006 02:48:47 PM · #67

Of note, another idea...(and non-lethal one).

Keep finding their websites. Find their web hosts. Then send DCMA cease and desist letters to have their sites taken down for copyright violations.

My guess is all their photos are illegal anyways. Just claim and if you have to fake proof of ownership. Do so... what are they going to do, sue you? Then they'd have to bring you to court. Of course, the odds are that they can't.

;-)

Nikolai1024

Nikon D300

03/28/2006 02:52:03 PM · #68

Originally posted by theSaj:

This is close to where I am. This address is probably a postal service type company. They just take packages and possible ship things. I was looking for another camera store in Brooklyn and that is what I found.

Nick

fitmpdnsthtr

Canon EOS-5D

Tamron SP AF 17-50mm f/2.8 Di II LD Aspherical (IF) for Canon

03/28/2006 03:19:11 PM · #69

I say we try to set up a transaction, get the police involved, and when they go to Western Union to pick up their money, BAM!!! they get arrested for fraud. And then the police delivers them to those they have robbed, handcuffed, and walk away for about three hours. I would love to spend even five minutes with those @$$H*!!$.

Nikon AF-S DX Zoom-Nikkor 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 ED

03/28/2006 03:25:54 PM · #70

Actually, police might not do it, but Western Union might. If you explain the situation. Maybe they'd set up a sting.

It hurts their reputation as well.

BeeCee

Nikon D40

03/28/2006 03:33:00 PM · #71

Originally posted by Pugilist:

An update, they have changed their name but did not change their testimonials:

//chembiotin.com/testimonials.php

Same key-rap though.

Yeah, in their privacy policy they goofed and missed changing the name "Elsider" in one place.
Now that there's a trail, there definitely SHOULD be some fraud proceedings started, quickly before they change yet again.

edit to add;
The name sounded funny for an electronics store so I searched it. First hit I clicked;

not electronics, but the "warehouse" addy!

Haven't checked any further, but the other addresses they list are probably stolen from other legit businesses too.

Message edited by author 2006-03-28 15:42:46.

03/28/2006 03:52:03 PM · #72

Take screen shots....

Nikon AF-S DX Zoom-Nikkor 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 ED

03/28/2006 07:50:45 PM · #73

ok...that site is now gone again..who did what?

BeeCee

Nikon D40

03/28/2006 08:05:30 PM · #74

Originally posted by smilebig4me1x:

ok...that site is now gone again..who did what?

Still there for me.....