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01/07/2006 09:26:26 PM · #1
I was reading the other day that in order to get a panoramic to come out perfectly, you needed to swivel camera/lens from the center of the lens (the nodal point), not the center point of the camera (the normal tripod mount on the bottom of the camera). So with that in mind, I set off to build a contraption that would allow me to swivel my camera around the nodal point of the lens. This is pretty easy to build, so I thought I would share a couple of pictures of it in case anyone else wanted to build one.

I used some 5/8 oak hardwood as my material, a ballbearing lazy susan swivel, a 1/4-20 insert (for mounting to tripod, and a 1/4-20 nylon bolt (for mounting the camera to it). I used my router to cut a 1/4" slit in the top piece to allow the camera to slide forward or backward so that I can center the lense regardless of which lense I am using. The sliding option isn't necessary if you always use the same lens for panoramic shooting. If this is the case, a 1/4 hole drilled in the correct location will work. All in all, it cost me about $15.00.

Here are a few pics of it. I think I will disassemble it and stain the oak and attach a little piece of felt to the surface as to provide a nice soft area for the camera to sit.


01/07/2006 09:28:21 PM · #2
Do we get to see any samples from your handi-work?
01/07/2006 09:30:44 PM · #3
I see one major flaw here........there is a Nikon mounted on that contraption. hehehe

>>>running away quickly>>>
01/07/2006 09:34:06 PM · #4
pretty awesome when do they go on sale
01/07/2006 09:36:08 PM · #5
Originally posted by pidge:

Do we get to see any samples from your handi-work?


Well, it's rather embarassing and clearly shows that I'm a little better in the woodshop that I am running a camera. It was almost dark too, so I'll use that as my excuse for a bad photo.

01/07/2006 09:36:22 PM · #6
Impressive!
Originally posted by jahoward:

I think I will disassemble it and stain the oak and attach a little piece of felt to the surface as to provide a nice soft area for the camera to sit.

How about a mini-bar and camera-jacuzzi for a real touch of luxury... ;-)
01/07/2006 09:49:13 PM · #7
Originally posted by jhonan:

How about a mini-bar and camera-jacuzzi for a real touch of luxury... ;-)


That's brilliant. I bet I have enough material left over that I could build a cup/cocktail/beer holder right onto the side of the head. Of course it will be mounted on the left hand side so that I can keep pushing the shutter release with my right hand and drink the beer with my left hand.

As for the wise crack about the major flaw being the Nikon mounted to it, no soup for you. ;)
01/07/2006 09:54:54 PM · #8
Well that is one way of doing it. Very novel and a lot less expensive then my Gitzo pan head. Must have been fun to build.
01/07/2006 09:56:42 PM · #9
Originally posted by jahoward:

Originally posted by pidge:

Do we get to see any samples from your handi-work?


Well, it's rather embarassing and clearly shows that I'm a little better in the woodshop that I am running a camera. It was almost dark too, so I'll use that as my excuse for a bad photo.



No excuses necessary, it works, and that's what's important. Looking foward to seeing more! :)
01/08/2006 12:25:34 AM · #10
Thanks for the reassurance pidge. You're right, it does what it's supposed to. Now I need to learn how to use the camera and I'll be in business.
01/08/2006 01:12:53 AM · #11
That's a great idea and I've seen similar gizmos selling for a LOT more than $15 but I have a question: How do you determine the optical center of the lens?

Another idea might be to add a level.

Message edited by author 2006-01-08 01:14:06.
01/08/2006 01:16:12 AM · #12
Hmmm...two thoughts from having seen other versions of this idea.
I thought it was supposed to swivel at the sensor plane, often marked with a circle with a line through it on the camera body.
I googled on this and you are right. Hmmm. I must have misunderstood. this site has lots of info on this - and they have mounted the camera as i suggest (see next paragraph) Site loads slow - animation on it.

Also, to maximize the final image size, the camera should be mounted portrait style - more images needed as you pan, but they are all taller, making the final image taller.

Any degree marks to help in locating the pans?
Nice ball bearing set up - anyway to lock it still?
I would be afraid of using a plastic screw to mount my camera to anything.

And one last nit pick - why didn;t you paint it black?
01/08/2006 01:55:15 AM · #13
Originally posted by Spazmo99:

How do you determine the optical center of the lens?


Well, that can be sort of tricky. I read that one way to do it is to use a streetsign post, streetlight post, or something mounted verticle to view through the lens. I poked a shovel into my lawn and used the shovel handle. Have the post about 3 to 5 feet away. When the swivel point is located at the nodal point of the lense, the streetsign post you are looking at will not appear to be moving in relation to the background when the camera/lens swivels. If the post is moving left or right in relation to the background, the nodal point and the swivel point are not aligned. This is sort of hard to explain, so I hope I didn't make it any more confusing that it already is.
01/08/2006 02:08:46 AM · #14
Thanks for the link Prof_fate.

I agree with you that the panos would be larger if the camera were mounted for a portrait shot. I have a little material left over, so I might make a verticle mount tomorrow.

I have not put any degree marks or anything on it, so I just have to pay close attention to what is in the frame when I am shooting. There is no lock on it either, but it sure spins nicely . I'd have to say this is a fairly primitive device, but it should work for the few times a year I will shoot a pano.

Oh, why I didn't paint it black... It is made of oak, so I just couldn't bring myself to paint over the awesome grain in the wood. But, I have already stained it a nice dark cherry color, so now it looks like a nice piece of camera furniture. :)
01/08/2006 02:46:59 AM · #15
I would recommend one further modification...

I like to use a wide angle lens for most of my panoramas. Looking at this one, i think the device may come into my lens field of view rather quickly. It may work better if the camera sits up a few inches higher above the wooden boards...
01/08/2006 04:19:38 AM · #16
it would be great if you marked the angles, to see how much it has rotated. For example i might wish to rotate by 5 deg const.
01/08/2006 07:18:08 AM · #17
You should make and market this.... I am sure there is money to be made for you. Very creative idea. Make sure the prize is right and I will order on right away, Yes, I will pay the shipping and I will pay you in dollars.
01/08/2006 09:56:26 AM · #18
you can pick up a light weight 9" level for like $2.99 at home depot.
it could be epoxied to the lower rear - behind the camera mounting bolt. or use a string level - but they only level in one plane.

busted link - here is the item number from home depot
Johnson
Plastic Torpedo Level

Model 7500B-ORANGE


Message edited by author 2006-01-08 10:00:39.
01/08/2006 09:58:46 AM · #19
a block of wood with a hole in it and a longer mounting bolt could be added between the camera and board as needed to raise it, and removed when not needed.

Originally posted by jmseztler:

I like to use a wide angle lens for most of my panoramas. Looking at this one, i think the device may come into my lens field of view rather quickly. It may work better if the camera sits up a few inches higher above the wooden boards...

01/08/2006 09:59:45 AM · #20
Nice job!

Here's one I built last year: Building it in portrait mode really allows you to maximize the final size of the image.

Used a video plate and some hardware from Home Depot.

Takes some pretty good shots:

Originally posted by jahoward:

I agree with you that the panos would be larger if the camera were mounted for a portrait shot. I have a little material left over, so I might make a verticle mount tomorrow.



01/08/2006 10:39:05 AM · #21
shouldn't the camera be roated at the focal plane to get the best possible image? That wouldn't be at the front edge of the lens...
01/08/2006 10:51:00 AM · #22
Originally posted by Megatherian:

shouldn't the camera be roated at the focal plane to get the best possible image? That wouldn't be at the front edge of the lens...

The proper rotation point is not at the focal plane (sensor) but at a point that's usually within the lens. This point can be located by careful testing using the movement of a foreground object in relation to a background object.
01/08/2006 10:58:20 AM · #23
Originally posted by mariomel:

Nice job!

Here's one I built last year: Building it in portrait mode really allows you to maximize the final size of the image.

Used a video plate and some hardware from Home Depot.

Takes some pretty good shots:

Originally posted by jahoward:

I agree with you that the panos would be larger if the camera were mounted for a portrait shot. I have a little material left over, so I might make a verticle mount tomorrow.


I would like some more info on how you made this one.
01/08/2006 10:59:25 AM · #24
Originally posted by Megatherian:

shouldn't the camera be roated at the focal plane to get the best possible image?


The camera should be rotated about the lens' nodal point to eliminate parallax errors. Objects relatively near the camera can be poorly stitched or doubled in the panoramic image due to parallax.

//www.path.unimelb.edu.au/~bernardk/tutorials/360/photo/nodal.html shows how to determine the nodal point.
01/08/2006 12:05:59 PM · #25
Originally posted by youngnova:

I would like some more info on how you made this one.


Here is the original thread where I created this head: //www.dpchallenge.com/forum.php?action=read&FORUM_THREAD_ID=199482&highlight=panoramic

Basically bought a video plate, then an L bracket, and some bolts, and butterfly nut at Home Depot.
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