Photoshop 'Save for Web' - too small!

Sigma 15mm f/2.8 EX Diagonal Fisheye for Nikon

12/13/2005 11:00:26 AM · #1

Hi. I tried the 'Save for Web' setting for the first tiem for the 'Too Late' challenge; but almost all of my comments have been: "Great shot, just too small".

Obviously, I'm gutted about this and so I'm asking if I've done something wrong.

I took my original image.
Resized to the longest side to 640px to allow submission.
Chose 'Save for Web'
Chose max file size of 150kb.
Save.

How come my image is apparently smaller than everyone else's?

(Can't show you the shot yet as it's still in the competition).

muckpond

Nikon D200

12/13/2005 11:02:38 AM · #2

instead of choosing the max file size (which apparently resizes the image), you should instead adjust the quality slider until the estimated file size shown is just under 150K.

i use save for the web all the time for my challenge entries without a problem this way.

for color images, your quality will probably be around 80% (depending on the amount of detail). for b/w images, you can often get 100% quality.

give that a shot and see what happens.

Tallbloke

Canon EOS-350D Rebel XT

Canon EF 28-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS USM

12/13/2005 11:05:48 AM · #3

try it with another shot and post it so we can see if everything is ok

Steve

gaurawa

Canon EOS-5D Mark II

Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS

12/13/2005 11:11:04 AM · #4

size it to 640 and use save for web. click the 'Optimize" options and left click on arrow on top of it and select "Optimize to file size" set at 150K. This doesn't resize my photos

Tamron SP AF 28-75mm f/2.8 XR Di for Canon

12/13/2005 11:13:39 AM · #5

Ok. Well that's what I did. How strange.

I'm in the office right now, so cannot post images to the web (firewall).

What dpi do you use when posting? I chose 72dpi.

Canon EOS-20D

12/13/2005 11:13:49 AM · #6

There's also a tutorial here that may be of some help.

Sigma 105mm f/2.8 EX DG Macro for Canon

12/13/2005 11:14:51 AM · #7

Yeah - i followed the tutorial. That's why I'm so bemused!

longlivenyhc

Canon EOS-300D Rebel

12/13/2005 11:17:38 AM · #8

i use "optimize to file size" of 147kb and it doesnt resize the image, just lowers the quality slider until it reaches that 147 mark

12/13/2005 11:32:14 AM · #9

OK - I think I'll wait til tomorrow so that I can put the link to the challenge entry. As this one has got me foxed.

Canon EF 28-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS USM

12/14/2005 09:22:15 AM · #10

Here is the link:
//www.dpchallenge.com/image.php?IMAGE_ID=265286

(Had hoped to do much better than I did with this photo)

Tallbloke

Canon EOS-350D Rebel XT

12/15/2005 07:20:31 AM · #11

Well, it seems your picture is 307 X 460

Was the re-sizing an unfortunate typo?

Steve

Giorgio

Canon EOS-70D

Sigma 105mm f/2.8 Macro EX DG OS for Canon EF

12/15/2005 07:49:01 AM · #12

Try this approach:

after you finished editing the photo instead of resizing it go to 'Save for Web', choose the 'Image Size' tab, resize your photo to 640 X whatever(depends if you cropped the photo or not) and after that play with the quality slide to achieve the required file size.Save and Good Luck! :) This is how I do it.

P.S. if i'm doing something wrong please let me know.

George.

longlivenyhc

Canon EOS-300D Rebel

Sigma 105mm f/2.8 EX DG Macro for Canon

12/15/2005 08:51:06 AM · #13

Originally posted by Giorgio:

i for one like to sharpen after resizing, and i believe other people do as well, so this approach isnt always applicable.

cpanaioti

Canon EOS-40D

Canon EF 70-300mm f/4.5-5.6 DO IS USM

12/15/2005 10:23:08 AM · #14

Originally posted by longlivenyhc:

Originally posted by Giorgio:
Try this approach:

after you finished editing the photo instead of resizing it go to 'Save for Web', choose the 'Image Size' tab, resize your photo to 640 X whatever(depends if you cropped the photo or not) and after that play with the quality slide to achieve the required file size.Save and Good Luck! :) This is how I do it.

P.S. if i'm doing something wrong please let me know.

George.

i for one like to sharpen after resizing, and i believe other people do as well, so this approach isnt always applicable.

Actually, save for web does sharpen. You just select the algorithm.

An alternative to give more control over sharpening would be to do the following:

1) Resize image
2) sharpen as necessary
3) Save for web with optimize for file size (turn off sharpening - I'm not sure if you can turn it off, never tried)

longlivenyhc

Canon EOS-300D Rebel

Sigma 105mm f/2.8 EX DG Macro for Canon

12/15/2005 10:30:44 AM · #15

Originally posted by cpanaioti:

An alternative to give more control over sharpening would be to do the following:

1) Resize image
2) sharpen as necessary
3) Save for web with optimize for file size (turn off sharpening - I'm not sure if you can turn it off, never tried)

which is exactly the process i use

lowonenergy

Canon EOS-5D Mark II

Canon EF 85mm f/1.8 USM

12/15/2005 10:31:58 AM · #16

I never do Save for Web.
I always do Save as. then choose the desired size in KB's.
Ofcourse the size of the image is made smaller before (640X ...)

It's simple, and works all the time..