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11/09/2005 06:19:01 PM · #201 |
Originally posted by ScottK:
So same-sex marriage was legal until the year 2001? Wow, that's news to me. Oh, or are you calling George Washington, Abraham Lincoln, Franklin Roosevelt, John Kennedy, Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton Christian jihadists, since same-sex marriage was illegal under all their "regimes"?
BTW, Christian jihadist is such a moronic misuse of either word that it really reflects poorly on your arguement. Such intolerant bigotry as expressed in your post is truly sad. |
Wow, you take such offense you must relate to this a bit I think.
I am saying that the far right wing that wants to "Christianize for our protection" the government of the U.S. are the "jihadist's".
The definition of "Christian" is a religious person who believes Jesus is the Christ and who is a member of a Christian denomination
The definition of "Jihad" is an Arabic word which comes from the Arabic root word "jahada", which means "exerting utmost effort" or "to strive". The word connotes a wide range of meanings, from an inward spiritual struggle to attain perfect faith, to holy war."
Now, how is my referral to the christian zealots on the far right as "Christian Jihadist's" incorrect? They certainly profess being christians and their behaviour is just as zealous and unforgiving as the muslim counterparts of jihad.
I stand by my statement.
Message edited by author 2005-11-09 18:20:33. |
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11/09/2005 06:20:30 PM · #202 |
Originally posted by gbautista87:
I wonder: If Jesus were gay, would people think differently? |
If cows were purple, would milk taste like grapes? What a pointless question. |
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11/09/2005 06:21:25 PM · #203 |
Originally posted by ScottK:
If cows were purple, would milk taste like grapes? What a pointless question. |
/me does her best Larry the Cable Guy impression...
I don't care who you are, that was funny right there. ;)
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11/09/2005 06:25:05 PM · #204 |
Originally posted by senoj:
Originally posted by ScottK:
Originally posted by muckpond:
the fact that some think so is evidence of how dense people are. |
Ah, so now I can add "dense" to the list of names I've been called today. There's the tollerance for ya.... |
Scott you are not dense you are cute. I go to bed, good night! |
I'm about as cute as you are innocent. ;) Good night. :)
Message edited by author 2005-11-09 18:25:35. |
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11/09/2005 06:27:56 PM · #205 |
Originally posted by pawdrix:
Originally posted by Riponlady:
Originally posted by SJCarter:
Or have you forgotten Mary Magdelan and the Da Vinci Code? ;-) |
Great minds.........
:)
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Hot bodies....
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sweaty feet!
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11/09/2005 06:29:10 PM · #206 |
Originally posted by MadMordegon:
Religion is bad because it makes people believe things that cannot and have not been proven and it should not be used to gauge issues in current reality, especially when it effects others. |
a very sad day indeed ..... this is our youth ..... :( |
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11/09/2005 06:32:59 PM · #207 |
Originally posted by KaDi:
Originally posted by ScottK:
Originally posted by muckpond:
the fact that some think so is evidence of how dense people are. |
Ah, so now I can add "dense" to the list of names I've been called today. There's the tollerance for ya.... |
Only if you identify with the statement.
Scott, I appreciate your attention to the arguments in the thread. Without you we'd all be sitting around like a bunch of bobbing-head dolls. These are important and complex issues...we need all sides of the story. Is there anything we agree on yet? |
To complete the quote from muckpond:
Originally posted by muckpond:
don't for a second fool yourself that a civil union is just a $50 legal software program away. the fact that some think so is evidence of how dense people are. |
Since I was the one who made the comment about "$50 legal software program" - even though it was applied out of context here - it didn't seem a huge leap to presume the "dense" part was aimed at me. But that's OK.
I'm not certain I understand the middle part of your post. But then, there is that "dense" thing.
And as far as agreement, I bet there are lots of things we agree on. But, to paraphrase James Prager, I'd prefer clarity over agreement. |
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11/09/2005 06:36:51 PM · #208 |
Originally posted by colyla:
Originally posted by MadMordegon:
Religion is bad because it makes people believe things that cannot and have not been proven and it should not be used to gauge issues in current reality, especially when it effects others. |
a very sad day indeed ..... this is our youth ..... :( |
And youth should question, rebel, dispute what they are told and be as ideological as possible! It's called developing their own minds and forming their own opinions.
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11/09/2005 06:41:06 PM · #209 |
Originally posted by Riponlady:
And youth should question, rebel, dispute what they are told and be as ideological as possible! It's called developing their own minds and forming their own opinions.
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I'm well beyond "youth" and still do all those things...maybe that's what keeps my mind young while the rest all goes to pot...
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11/09/2005 06:43:42 PM · #210 |
Three comments:
1 Evevery time you chip away at your constitution, you lose more than you bargain for.
2 I do not believe in democracy by oppression and
3 God provided for Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve(joke!;-)) |
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11/09/2005 06:44:44 PM · #211 |
Originally posted by hokie:
Originally posted by ScottK:
So same-sex marriage was legal until the year 2001? Wow, that's news to me. Oh, or are you calling George Washington, Abraham Lincoln, Franklin Roosevelt, John Kennedy, Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton Christian jihadists, since same-sex marriage was illegal under all their "regimes"?
BTW, Christian jihadist is such a moronic misuse of either word that it really reflects poorly on your arguement. Such intolerant bigotry as expressed in your post is truly sad. |
Wow, you take such offense you must relate to this a bit I think.
I am saying that the far right wing that wants to "Christianize for our protection" the government of the U.S. are the "jihadist's".
The definition of "Christian" is a religious person who believes Jesus is the Christ and who is a member of a Christian denomination
The definition of "Jihad" is an Arabic word which comes from the Arabic root word "jahada", which means "exerting utmost effort" or "to strive". The word connotes a wide range of meanings, from an inward spiritual struggle to attain perfect faith, to holy war."
Now, how is my referral to the christian zealots on the far right as "Christian Jihadist's" incorrect? They certainly profess being christians and their behaviour is just as zealous and unforgiving as the muslim counterparts of jihad.
I stand by my statement. |
From Dictionary.com:
ji·had also je·had
n.
1. A Muslim holy war or spiritual struggle against infidels.
From Wikipedia.com:
Jihad is an Islamic term, from the Arabic root jhd ("to exert utmost effort, to strive, struggle"), which connotes a wide range of meanings: anything from an inward spiritual struggle to attain perfect faith to a political or military struggle to further the Islamic cause. The term is frequently mistranslated to mean "holy war" in English, although jihad can apply to warfare.
So your usage (which, of course, I know did not originate with you) equates to "Christians [i.e. believers in or followers of Christ] who are in a Muslim holy war against infidels" - which, as it turns out, are themselves; or "Christians in a political or military struggle to further the Islamic cause" - to which they are diametrically opposed.
Makes no sense. But you're welcome to stand there all day. :)
Message edited by author 2005-11-09 18:46:54. |
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11/09/2005 06:45:42 PM · #212 |
Originally posted by gibun:
Three comments:
1 Evevery time you chip away at your constitution, you lose more than you bargain for.
2 I do not believe in democracy by oppression and
3 God provided for Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve(joke!;-)) |
Three answers:
1. If Michaelangelo hadn't chipped away, we wouldn't have "David"
2. I do not believe in democracy, I live in a republic
3. Who?
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11/09/2005 06:47:28 PM · #213 |
Originally posted by MadMordegon:
Religion is bad because it makes people believe things that cannot and have not been proven and it should not be used to gauge issues in current reality, especially when it effects others. |
Amen brother, you got that right |
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11/09/2005 06:47:40 PM · #214 |
Originally posted by KaDi:
Originally posted by gibun:
Three comments:
1 Evevery time you chip away at your constitution, you lose more than you bargain for.
2 I do not believe in democracy by oppression and
3 God provided for Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve(joke!;-)) |
Three answers:
1. If Michaelangelo hadn't chipped away, we wouldn't have "David"
2. I do not believe in democracy, I live in a republic
3. Who? |
See! We agree. Yea! |
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11/09/2005 06:48:25 PM · #215 |
Originally posted by Riponlady:
Originally posted by colyla:
Originally posted by MadMordegon:
Religion is bad because it makes people believe things that cannot and have not been proven and it should not be used to gauge issues in current reality, especially when it effects others. |
a very sad day indeed ..... this is our youth ..... :( |
And youth should question, rebel, dispute what they are told and be as ideological as possible! It's called developing their own minds and forming their own opinions.
P |
True. I just think it's sad....that if you don't have some kind of religion/spirituality in your life it's not much of a life. I have yet to meet a truly happy agnostic. :/
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11/09/2005 06:49:35 PM · #216 |
Originally posted by ScottK:
Originally posted by KaDi:
Originally posted by gibun:
Three comments:
1 Evevery time you chip away at your constitution, you lose more than you bargain for.
2 I do not believe in democracy by oppression and
3 God provided for Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve(joke!;-)) |
Three answers:
1. If Michaelangelo hadn't chipped away, we wouldn't have "David"
2. I do not believe in democracy, I live in a republic
3. Who? |
See! We agree. Yea! |
Good! Though I doubt we really agree on #3...but I have photo club, so I'll have to miss the next several hours of discussion. Ta Ta!
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11/09/2005 06:49:45 PM · #217 |
Originally posted by colyla:
Originally posted by Riponlady:
Originally posted by colyla:
Originally posted by MadMordegon:
Religion is bad because it makes people believe things that cannot and have not been proven and it should not be used to gauge issues in current reality, especially when it effects others. |
a very sad day indeed ..... this is our youth ..... :( |
And youth should question, rebel, dispute what they are told and be as ideological as possible! It's called developing their own minds and forming their own opinions.
P |
True. I just think it's sad....that if you don't have some kind of religion/spirituality in your life it's not much of a life. I have yet to meet a truly happy agnostic. :/ |
Hello!
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11/09/2005 06:51:09 PM · #218 |
Originally posted by Riponlady:
Originally posted by colyla:
Originally posted by Riponlady:
Originally posted by colyla:
Originally posted by MadMordegon:
Religion is bad because it makes people believe things that cannot and have not been proven and it should not be used to gauge issues in current reality, especially when it effects others. |
a very sad day indeed ..... this is our youth ..... :( |
And youth should question, rebel, dispute what they are told and be as ideological as possible! It's called developing their own minds and forming their own opinions.
P |
True. I just think it's sad....that if you don't have some kind of religion/spirituality in your life it's not much of a life. I have yet to meet a truly happy agnostic. :/ |
Hello! |
Right there with you Riponlady
hello! |
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11/09/2005 06:52:26 PM · #219 |
Originally posted by colyla:
True. I just think it's sad....that if you don't have some kind of religion/spirituality in your life it's not much of a life. I have yet to meet a truly happy agnostic. :/ |
Nice to meet you! |
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11/09/2005 06:54:22 PM · #220 |
Originally posted by Riponlady:
Originally posted by colyla:
Originally posted by Riponlady:
Originally posted by colyla:
Originally posted by MadMordegon:
Religion is bad because it makes people believe things that cannot and have not been proven and it should not be used to gauge issues in current reality, especially when it effects others. |
a very sad day indeed ..... this is our youth ..... :( |
And youth should question, rebel, dispute what they are told and be as ideological as possible! It's called developing their own minds and forming their own opinions.
P |
True. I just think it's sad....that if you don't have some kind of religion/spirituality in your life it's not much of a life. I have yet to meet a truly happy agnostic. :/ |
Hello! |
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11/09/2005 06:57:19 PM · #221 |
Originally posted by colyla:
. I have yet to meet a truly happy agnostic. :/ |
Hello! [/quote]
? [/quote]
One truly happy agnostic!
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11/09/2005 06:59:08 PM · #222 |
Originally posted by colyla:
True. I just think it's sad....that if you don't have some kind of religion/spirituality in your life it's not much of a life. I have yet to meet a truly happy agnostic. :/ |
Well, then consider having met one, me :-D |
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11/09/2005 06:59:17 PM · #223 |
Originally posted by Riponlady:
Originally posted by colyla:
. I have yet to meet a truly happy agnostic. :/ |
Hello! |
? [/quote]
One truly happy agnostic! [/quote]
You're saying you're agnostic and happy?
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11/09/2005 07:00:10 PM · #224 |
Originally posted by colyla:
Originally posted by Riponlady:
Originally posted by colyla:
. I have yet to meet a truly happy agnostic. :/ |
Hello! |
? |
One truly happy agnostic! [/quote]
You're saying you're agnostic and happy? [/quote]
Very!
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11/09/2005 07:00:24 PM · #225 |
Originally posted by KaDi:
Originally posted by gibun:
Three comments:
1 Evevery time you chip away at your constitution, you lose more than you bargain for.
2 I do not believe in democracy by oppression and
3 God provided for Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve(joke!;-)) |
Three answers:
1. If Michaelangelo hadn't chipped away, we wouldn't have "David"
2. I do not believe in democracy, I live in a republic
3. Who? |
If michaelangelo chipped one to many chips nobody would have cared for David. Show me democracy and I show you ignorence. Not Adam and Steve:-). |
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