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09/06/2005 09:43:06 PM · #1 |
| Question: If the portrait is not a beautiful and young person, will the people give it the same consideration? |
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09/06/2005 09:44:54 PM · #2 |
| Honestly, probably not. How it should be? Well we should be judging the photography and not the model. It is slightly more difficult to make a non-beautiful and older person into a crackling color portrait (although B&W is effective) but if photographed well and if it stands out, it will do well. |
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09/06/2005 09:51:16 PM · #3 |
It depends. Does the portrait portray a specific emotion? Take many of the shots you'd find in National Geographic, for instance - there are tons of photos of old, wrinkly, gnarled women that have great interest because of the way the shot was taken, whether it's because of the location, or the caption that runs with it. If the photo can make me feel something for the person, I'll judge it on the same basis as a beautiful young person.
Hope this helps.
~Savannah |
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09/06/2005 09:53:24 PM · #4 |
It can be anything you want to capture. Photography is not just about all the beautiful people, things, or moments captured. It's about life, pain, and suffering also.
It's all about impact. |
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09/06/2005 09:55:42 PM · #5 |
a good portrait is a good portrait to me, i dont care about the beauty of the person. does the picture convey the person well is what should matter. I dont think is supposed to be like a commercial style/model shoot kinda thing. I can't vote, but if I could I would vote highest for the photos where I feel like I get to know part of the person through the picture, young old beautiful ugly who cares...how does it speak to you is what should matter.
but i can't vote on this one - members only haha. |
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09/06/2005 09:59:26 PM · #6 |
| I think this is a ridiculous question. By far, the most famous and amazing portraits ever done were of common people in common situations, the time worn lines in the faces of the elderly or the dirty faces of the poor and stricken. Do some web searches of renowned photographers, not the glam shooters whose names will never be remembered, but the true masters and you will understand. Photography is a form of art and art has rarely confined itself to the pretty people. |
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09/06/2005 10:09:12 PM · #7 |
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09/06/2005 10:17:25 PM · #8 |
Originally posted by ladymonarda:
Question: If the portrait is not a beautiful and young person, will the people give it the same consideration? |
Actually I think the question was in reference to the people HERE.
And yes, I agree with Tranquil, the voting will be skewed toward the beautiful, young, erotic, etc...
Not how I judge, just a cynical view of the DPC majority.
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09/06/2005 10:26:44 PM · #9 |
Originally posted by ladymonarda:
Question: If the portrait is not a beautiful and young person, will the people give it the same consideration? |
Remember that a portrait does not have to be a of a person.
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09/06/2005 11:05:42 PM · #10 |
Originally posted by TomH1000:
Originally posted by ladymonarda:
Question: If the portrait is not a beautiful and young person, will the people give it the same consideration? |
Remember that a portrait does not have to be a of a person. |
True, but if scores are important to you (to some people they are and to others they aren't), I think it'd have to be exceptional to beat out the more "traditional" human portraits. Not necessarily how I vote, just how I think the majority of voters are here. Then again, I could be completely wrong - it happened once before... ;-)
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09/06/2005 11:09:11 PM · #11 |
If the photo appeals to me and is good then I will vote it accordingly whether it's an old or young person....beauty shouldn't come into it but you know how it can be here sometimes!
I'm sure if I stuck my ugly mug up here, whether it's the best photo or not, I'm sure to pick up the brown!! mwuhahahaha |
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09/06/2005 11:25:58 PM · #12 |
Now, every new challenge is followed by a thread of this sort. I can not blame any one, not at all. I just want to share what I do when a new challenge comes up:
I just use a little common sense. If in doubt, I'd ask people around me what their definitions of a certain word. I am not a native English speaking person. I often have problem of understanding a single word without a context. this method has worked well for me. Once, you think you are on the right track, just go ahead get something, something cool, beautiful or interesting. At the end, it is the photo that counts. I have browsed through the contests archive. I discovered that a photo can win by many different factors, some won by simplicity others won by compilicity; some won by vivid and pleasing color others won by time-proven B&W; some won by pure beauty of the model and perfect lighting others won by story-telling.... many factors. If one is excel on one or two of them, s/he will win sooner or later.
Just my two cents.... |
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09/06/2005 11:26:50 PM · #13 |
i'm thinking of some ridiculous entries for this one, beautiful or not.
:-) |
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09/07/2005 06:18:55 PM · #14 |
| What about a full profile? Is that NOT a portrait, although the entire side of the face is seen? And what about animals???? I've seen some awesome pet portraits. |
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09/07/2005 06:23:35 PM · #15 |
Originally posted by Jutilda:
What about a full profile? Is that NOT a portrait, although the entire side of the face is seen? And what about animals???? I've seen some awesome pet portraits. |
Judy, you can do anything that is a representation of a suject as long as it is not printed in "landscape" mode. ;-)
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09/07/2005 06:25:58 PM · #16 |
i guess it has to be an extreme of one or the other
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09/07/2005 06:29:26 PM · #17 |
Originally posted by Fetor:
i guess it has to be an extreme of one or the other |
Normal people aren't interesting. That's what defines normal. The trick is to get a normal person in an unnatural or just eyepopping situation. It is going to be tricky but you should not be discouraged if you don't feel you have access to these extremes. Every person is unique and so is their personality... and that is what portrait photography is about. I myself usually bias my voting on which entries are best photographed, then afterwards think about challenges. If your photo is in color and it is a portrait (animal or human or whatever creative idea someone may have) then it meets the challenge. My 2c.
Lee
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09/07/2005 06:31:10 PM · #18 |
Originally posted by Ivo:
Judy, you can do anything that is a representation of a suject as long as it is not printed in "landscape" mode. ;-) |
I dont agree with this statement. A portrait doesnt have to be in portrait mode at all, it can be in either portrait or landscape mode. Creative cropping sometimes makes a spectacular portrait photograph.
Edit: It can also be in a square format for that matter.
Message edited by author 2005-09-07 18:32:18.
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09/07/2005 06:34:51 PM · #19 |
Originally posted by loriprophoto:
Originally posted by Ivo:
Judy, you can do anything that is a representation of a suject as long as it is not printed in "landscape" mode. ;-) |
I dont agree with this statement. A portrait doesnt have to be in portrait mode at all, it can be in either portrait or landscape mode. Creative cropping sometimes makes a spectacular portrait photograph.
Edit: It can also be in a square format for that matter. |
I think I should clarify my statement.
Here we go
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;-)
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09/07/2005 06:35:12 PM · #20 |
People like beautiful people; it's built into everyone, and running away from human nature isn't worth it. Let's not throw around extravagant justifications like 'it's what emotion it conveys that matters' blahblah. Just admit it like I do; you'll be happier that way. |
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09/07/2005 06:39:49 PM · #21 |
 
even us uglies can win a ribbon or two. :D
 
and some older folks score ok too |
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09/07/2005 06:56:55 PM · #22 |
Edit - I said something dumb again. Forget it.
Message edited by author 2005-09-07 18:59:06.
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09/07/2005 07:15:50 PM · #23 |
| I think all of the portraits shown on this page are awesome. I've enjoyed viewing them all. The human face has so much to be interesting. It's just capturing that essence. Sometimes you get it and don't even know it til you upload the camera. :~) |
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09/07/2005 07:22:34 PM · #24 |
Remember that the person voting is going to be looking at 200-300 entries. A normal person in a normal portrait is going to get overlooked very easily (even if it is a good portrait of them). So you are going to have to:
a) have an extraordinary person (be it beautiful, old, weathered, tattooed, pierced, ugly)
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b) have an extraordinary pose or extraordinary location
The winner will undoubtedly utilize both and have impeccible lighting...
Message edited by author 2005-09-07 19:23:14. |
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09/07/2005 07:38:12 PM · #25 |
I love too love the portraits posted on this thread....but the challenge is for a color portrait or can we desaturize the color into almost b/w?
I guess we can submitt anything, but some will probably vote down if it isn't obvious color (?) |
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