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04/12/2002 04:20:09 PM · #1 |
So, here is a thought I just had. Maybe a bad idea, but still...I am the type of person to spend alot of time picking out art for my walls. It has to be the perfect piece--in fact my bedroom still (after 2 years!!) has two empty walls because I haven't found *the ones*! When I find pictures that I like, they usually come from either traveling or someplace like Barewalls.com. But, many of the pictures that I see on this site rival and appeal to me as much or more so than anything I could buy from some random corporation. So, I was thinking--what if we had a link or page or something where we could buy, sell, trade, exchange some of our work? I don't know about you guys, but I have seen some pretty amazing stuff come out of DPC in the past few months--and the best part is that when you look at the image and it is done by someone that you feel you almost know, it makes it that much greater. Like I said, this is just a thought and have no idea if it is even feasible in any manner, but would love to know what you think. Anyone?
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04/12/2002 04:34:35 PM · #2 |
Maybe some of the photographers could put print sale/exchange info or a link to their 'prints for sale' area on their profile...
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04/12/2002 04:40:18 PM · #3 |
So, how much would I have to pay someone to buy my photos? Seriously, that sounds like a good idea. There have definately been some awesome photos on this website. Webshots has a link where you can purchase copies of member's photos if they have given permission to do so. The pictures here are way better than that.
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04/12/2002 04:50:36 PM · #4 |
It's amazing to me that anyone would frame a digital picture when its obivious a computer was used to make the print. Are their computers out their with printers so advanced that you can't tell weather the print is done by computer or not? I'd really like to know.
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04/12/2002 05:38:51 PM · #5 |
Heh, mine are free = P
crappy and low res too
I use a Hewlett Packard Deskjet 970 Cse. It does photos very well. I'd say they're up to the quality of developed pics, but I'm not sure about the paper I use (HP Premium Plus, it just doesn't seem as good as what I get from a developer)
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04/12/2002 05:46:23 PM · #6 |
Since you're all talking about it! ....
Langdon and I have been talking for months about this idea -- allowing photographers to upload a print-resolution sized version and allowing users to buy prints. Since we would likely not be able to keep up with the physical/hardware demands of printing them ourselves, we were planning on trying to get some sort of deal going with an online printing service. Amateur artists like yourselves can make $money$ off of your photography, and of course we cover printing costs and get enough for us to eat, too. :)
If/when we do offer a service like this, we'll let you upload past photos and have those for sale as well (I think). It's just a fairly extensive thing to get going. Contracts with a printer, how to get your money, how to give you money, etc. If you've got any experience with any of these and want to help or throw us suggestions, feel free.
So, ya interested? :P
Drew
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04/12/2002 05:54:27 PM · #7 |
Originally posted by anarchos_punk:
It's amazing to me that anyone would frame a digital picture when its obivious a computer was used to make the print. Are their computers out their with printers so advanced that you can't tell weather the print is done by computer or not? I'd really like to know.
My HP DeskJet 1220c makes really nice prints. To me, any difference is not worth discussing... I am very pleased with my digital prints.
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04/12/2002 06:29:15 PM · #8 |
Alright, here's my two cents.
I do large prints all the time for other people. It's part of my job. When I say 'large prints' I mean by the square foot. We print them for $8 per square foot plus a $15 rip charge on a large format, CMYK plotter. The quality is amazing. Anyone requiring more info let me know. BTW, Kinko's (locally) charges 12.95 per foot.
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04/12/2002 08:32:43 PM · #9 |
Almost all of the prints on my walls at home are off of my Epson printers, the detail is amazing and the thing to remember too is whenever framed behind glass it is impossible to tell the paper type or what kind of printer it came off of. At work I print on a Fuji Frontier it takes almost any input (film or digital) and prints up to 8x12. I do have to say that the output of that is better than anything I have seen, it even prints off film sharper. Back to the home printing side I have sold many of my prints off of my Epson 1270 and 1280. I have never been questioned about where the print came from unless someone turned it over and saw the Epson logo on the back of the print.
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04/12/2002 10:34:04 PM · #10 |
Originally posted by anarchos_punk:
It's amazing to me that anyone would frame a digital picture when its obivious a computer was used to make the print. Are their computers out their with printers so advanced that you can't tell weather the print is done by computer or not? I'd really like to know.
You might want to look into wet process printers like 'lightjets'. These are wet process chemical printers, just like those that are used for film.
In fact, the majority of commercial film processing (both cheapo 1-hour lab and expensive professional printing) is done digitally these days.
You can get very good, large prints from digital files these days. No pixelation etc, as they are printed using more traditional chemistry, rather than depositing inkdrops.
Prices are pretty good too.
I'd be flattered if anyone wanted to buy large prints of my pictures. Any of them are available, up to about 16inchx20inch. Each print would cost about $20 or so - basically you could process the image and upload it to a printer's web site and the person could buy it from there.
Several web sites specialise in this, at quite a variety of pricepoints/ quality.
www.ofoto.com or www.shutterfly.com for the cheaper end
www.westcoastimaging.com or //www.calypsoinc.com/ for the higher
end
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04/13/2002 01:36:06 AM · #11 |
Half of the pictures on my living room wall were printed with my computer, and that was with my old printer! They look fantastic. A friend who worked at Gateway got me a great deal on an Epson Photo 785EPX when they closed his store and liquidated the entire operation, it was $70! I haven't printed any photos on it yet, though. :)
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04/13/2002 02:09:29 AM · #12 |
| I got an HP1700 printer for Christmas and it prints amazing pictures--especially since I finally have a camera that gives me enough resolution to do so! That is probably what made me think about this--because, like I said, I really like some of the stuff I am seeing and would love to have some!:) I have seen some pictures that have come back from Ofoto, and they looked pretty good, but haven't seen any of the others, so i wouldn't really care either way if we got them printed online or could do them ourselves--as long as I could get good quality paper. Right now I just buy kodak paper, but i would really like to buy some of that good matte paper. So anyway, is having your latest picture under your name in the forums the latest thing? I like that. |
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04/13/2002 02:27:25 AM · #13 |
Very quick of you to notice :)
A few new toys in the forums ... |
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04/13/2002 02:33:05 AM · #14 |
yeah i know! i just got home from work--people don't like that 2:00 cut off time in our bar! they always keep us there late. more new stuff? i'll have to check it out!
But back to the subject, if you were to choose to print your own, and assuming someone wanted to sell, could it be as simple as just sending a payment to the photographer through paypal? or would more need to be involved than that? i would think that eventually this would really blossom into a full fledged business at some point, but for now...who knows?
* This message has been edited by the author on 4/13/2002 3:00:30 AM. |
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04/13/2002 06:43:45 AM · #15 |
I print off all of my pictures on a Canon S800 printer. Its a FANTASTIC printer.. although bloody expensive.. I actually got it for free when I bought my D-30. (The S800 retails for £329 = $425) It does some of the best prints I've ever seen. And on the right paper, it is next to Impossible to tell the differences between photos and prints.
The quality on your prints is also going to depend on the quality of your camera. I took my pictures on a CD to Jessops (camera shop) and had them put them through a "wet process" (aka same as film is developed) and they came out stunning. Theres absolutely no way you could tell they were taken on a digital. |
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04/13/2002 08:11:43 AM · #16 |
OK, here's what stops me (printing out my own pictures), and maybe others who do can share what they do.
a) Once you print it out, then what? Do you go out and buy some stuff to mount it on? How hard is that? What's the process? Because at one point I just hung up some straight printouts, but they curled up after a few days :P.
and b) i'm always shooting more more more - esp with digital. how do you say, well this one is good enough to keep, when you know you're going to be making more more MORE ? I can barely keep up as it is with postprocessing all the pics I do take.
Thanks for the insights,
K |
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04/13/2002 08:27:52 AM · #17 |
| I think it's a great idea to be able to sell some of our prints directly from the site. I already offer mine for sell on my site, but this would be an added bonus. I have an HP970cxi and it does great prints also, but I use those for my personal use.I'm not too happy with the paper quality though, so I've been searching for some good paper to use. Planning on buying an Epson 1280 to do my sale prints and/or use a local photo shop. |
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04/13/2002 10:58:21 AM · #18 |
Originally posted by magnetic9999:
OK, here's what stops me (printing out my own pictures), and maybe others who do can share what they do.
a) Once you print it out, then what? Do you go out and buy some stuff to mount it on? How hard is that? What's the process? Because at one point I just hung up some straight printouts, but they curled up after a few days :P.
and b) i'm always shooting more more more - esp with digital. how do you say, well this one is good enough to keep, when you know you're going to be making more more MORE ? I can barely keep up as it is with postprocessing all the pics I do take.
Thanks for the insights,
K
What I do is mount the picture, with backing board, the picture, a cover matt and then frame the whole thing.
If you mount it properly, it'll be hinged at a couple of points and
can then be easily changed for the newer picture that you like more :)
This link has some info that points to more info on how to do this. |
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04/13/2002 12:11:28 PM · #19 |
Hey, I'm confused. I won the architecture challenge almost a week ago now, and still haven't received the flood of requests for large, high quality signed prints (only $100 per print - limited to 100 copies). What's going on here ? Did I put the wrong email address in or something ?
[yes I am just joking for those missing the humour without having smileys in this post]
btw - if anyone did ever want to buy one of my pictures - I sell them at cost :) |
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04/13/2002 12:31:02 PM · #20 |
Originally posted by GordonMcGregor:
can then be easily changed for the newer picture that you like more :)
This link has some info that points to more info on how to do this.
Thanks!!
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04/13/2002 01:25:27 PM · #21 |
Originally posted by drewmedia:
Since you're all talking about it! ....
Langdon and I have been talking for months about this idea -- allowing photographers to upload a print-resolution sized version and allowing users to buy prints. Since we would likely not be able to keep up with the physical/hardware demands of printing them ourselves, we were planning on trying to get some sort of deal going with an online printing service. Amateur artists like yourselves can make $money$ off of your photography, and of course we cover printing costs and get enough for us to eat, too. :)
If/when we do offer a service like this, we'll let you upload past photos and have those for sale as well (I think). It's just a fairly extensive thing to get going. Contracts with a printer, how to get your money, how to give you money, etc. If you've got any experience with any of these and want to help or throw us suggestions, feel free.
So, ya interested? :P
Drew
Would be interested but how would we go on for uploading very large files if not on Broadband?
Vin
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04/13/2002 01:34:39 PM · #22 |
Very carefully.
Originally posted by vin rigby:
Would be interested but how would we go on for uploading very large files if not on Broadband?
Vin
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04/13/2002 07:13:13 PM · #23 |
Originally posted by vin rigby:
Originally posted by drewmedia:
Since you're all talking about it! ....
Would be interested but how would we go on for uploading very large files if not on Broadband?
Vin
So far I've found that even on broadband it's a real pain to upload images good enough to do get good prints from. I've done this a couple of times to get 16x20 prints and the files end up somewhere around 20Mb which is pretty damn slow, even on a business contract cable modem.
(especially when you multiply that up by several images you want to take)
I think in the future I'm going to start sending CDs to the print company, just to save my poor link, especially as TimeWarner are now threatening to start charging for bandwidth use.
* This message has been edited by the author on 4/13/2002 7:14:33 PM. |
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04/14/2002 01:48:02 AM · #24 |
Originally posted by magnetic9999:
OK, here's what stops me (printing out my own pictures), and maybe others who do can share what they do.
a) Once you print it out, then what? Do you go out and buy some stuff to mount it on? How hard is that? What's the process? Because at one point I just hung up some straight printouts, but they curled up after a few days :P.
and b) i'm always shooting more more more - esp with digital. how do you say, well this one is good enough to keep, when you know you're going to be making more more MORE ? I can barely keep up as it is with postprocessing all the pics I do take.
Thanks for the insights,
K
I just go to the local Bloodbath and Beyond, pick up a picture frame, and frame it like a regular photograph. If I take a better picture and I'm not feeling lazy, I just chuck one of the the old ones (or file it away) and replace it, since I can always print a new copy of it later! What's wrong with a rotating display of your new work? I'm sure guests would love it. |
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04/14/2002 02:42:27 AM · #25 |
Originally posted by GordonMcGregor:
Originally posted by vin rigby:
[i]Originally posted by drewmedia:
Since you're all talking about it! ....
Would be interested but how would we go on for uploading very large files if not on Broadband?
Vin
So far I've found that even on broadband it's a real pain to upload...
I think in the future I'm going to start sending CDs to the print company, just to save my poor link, especially as TimeWarner are now threatening to start charging for bandwidth use.
[/i]
Thanks Gordon, I had thought of CD's, certainly in my case without broadband.
Vin.
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