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05/24/2003 03:31:33 PM · #1 |
Please oh please will someone tell me how to get a picture to 150KB?
I am using PSP and have gone in circles trying to figure it out.
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05/24/2003 03:38:39 PM · #2 |
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05/24/2003 03:39:19 PM · #3 |
How I usually do it is:
Resize (to 640x480)->File->Export->JPEG Optimizer
Then increase the compression until the filesize is below 150k
Which is probably the totally wrong way to do it but it works for me.
Good luck,
-tog
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05/24/2003 03:44:48 PM · #4 |
Originally posted by togtog:
How I usually do it is:
Resize (to 640x480)->File->Export->JPEG Optimizer
Then increase the compression until the filesize is below 150k
Which is probably the totally wrong way to do it but it works for me.
Good luck,
-tog |
That is all greek to paintshop pro users...lol...unless you have the plug ins
Message edited by author 2003-05-24 15:46:04. |
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05/24/2003 04:45:10 PM · #5 |
Actually that was for Paintshop Pro 7 with the default install.
-tog
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05/24/2003 04:59:49 PM · #6 |
Originally posted by togtog:
Actually that was for Paintshop Pro 7 with the default install.
-tog |
Like I said unless you had the plug ins |
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05/24/2003 05:30:44 PM · #7 |
You do not need any plug-ins to resize with PSP7.0. Im resizing images from a 6MP Canon D60 with no problems. Go to image resize- select 640 and the other dimensional side will atuomatically be determined to keep your proper aspect ratio. You dont need to worry about what the other side is since the rules state one side cannot exceed 640 pixels. To check the real file size after you save a copy ( do not keep the changes to the original-do a file save as) Open windows explorer and look in the folder you saved the file too. The proper file size will be there and it will be less than 150k. This is all I ever do and never had to do anything else to meet the size requirements. Make sure you look for the file size in windows explorer. Hope this helps. :)
Message edited by author 2003-05-24 17:31:56.
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05/27/2003 08:36:51 AM · #8 |
I generally crop the Huge Image out of my camera till it's cropped how I want it, do any imagemanips on it while still big, then resize down to something more reasonable, save it at 100% quality, and see hwo big the file is. If it's too big, I either resize it down a bit or cut the quality, whichever gives me the best final image. But I do usually end up with shots about 500 pixels across, not the full 640 permitted, because I'm a quality whore. :->
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05/27/2003 08:44:38 AM · #9 |
Originally posted by eloise:
I generally crop the Huge Image out of my camera till it's cropped how I want it, do any imagemanips on it while still big, then resize down to something more reasonable, save it at 100% quality, and see hwo big the file is. If it's too big, I either resize it down a bit or cut the quality, whichever gives me the best final image. But I do usually end up with shots about 500 pixels across, not the full 640 permitted, because I'm a quality whore. :-> |
As long as you don't make too small a crop from your cam, you should be able to stay at 640 pixels without much trouble. I try to avoid cropping whenever possible and force myself to frame the image the way I want it with the camera so I have the maximum number of pixels to work with in the end :)
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05/27/2003 09:06:52 AM · #10 |
In case it got lost in the shuffle, resizing in PSP is NOT a special plug-in of any sort. The way I do it (having completed all my image adjustments) is:
File Save As Type, then choose JPG and hit "Options". This brings up the JPEG Optimizer that allows you to choose your quality versus size choice.
Very easy. And STANDARD!
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05/27/2003 09:36:06 AM · #11 |
Thank you, Jak. I've been scratching my head for 3 days over this, heh.
-tog
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05/27/2003 09:41:00 AM · #12 |
[quote]As long as you don't make too small a crop from your cam, you should be able to stay at 640 pixels without much trouble. I try to avoid cropping whenever possible and force myself to frame the image the way I want it with the camera so I have the maximum number of pixels to work with in the end :)[/quote]
Not so, m'sieu, though I don't doubt YOU can. :-> I try to avoid compression whenever I can, because it tends to give me artifacts I can't get rid of. I'd rather have a smaller image (though not tiny) that's crystal-crisp than one as big as it can possibly be and pixelated. It's a personal choice; I don't insist anyone else do it. :-> Also, given that my monitor's 10x7, 640 pixels just looks frelling huge to me - 640 HIGH and I usually have to scroll around to see all of it, which doesn't help me get the gestalt.
I agree that framing it in the camera is the best choice (and sometimes I even manage it!).
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05/27/2003 09:50:33 AM · #13 |
| i always try to avoid compression also. I simply take my image and RESAMPLE it to 640 pixels on the long side then save with the minimum compression required to get under the 150k limit. I have never had a problem with this, and only certain image types yield artifacting when done this way. images with lots of contrasting detail tend to suffer the most artifacting... I have only encountered this on rare occasions though... |
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05/27/2003 09:56:21 AM · #14 |
| just get and use Irfanview (freeware) and when you SAVE your image as JPG, there is an "advance" option that lets you adjust the JPG compression. Just set the % lower to get a smaller file size. I usually use 75% JPG compression and I always get small file sizes. |
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05/27/2003 10:45:33 AM · #15 |
Here's what I do. I save my file in Photoshop using the best quality compression. The file is usually around 500k or so.
Then I run the picture through NeatImage and re-save it. The file ALWAYS looks better and is ALWAYS less than 100k. It's the best of both worlds, the file is smaller and there is no loss in qulity due to JPG compression and I never have to worry about different schemes to save the picture in. In fact, like I said earlier, they look better.
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05/27/2003 10:50:12 AM · #16 |
it's not quite true that you're not losing quality when saving out of neatimage though.. not having the full version, i sometimes use it on some pics, but i am limited in that respect since if i use it for a print, if i zoom in closely, i can sometimes see the compression near sharp edges. And since it's just a shareware version of it, i have no choice than to save it as an over-compressed jpg. look cloely at your pictures.. ie, zoom 300.. 400% .. you'll see the compression neatimage adds..
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05/27/2003 10:54:06 AM · #17 |
In photoshop, I resize my shot down to 640 pixels on the long side, using the 'fit image' command. (or 620 if I'm going to add a border)
After the resize I do a bit of USM to compensate for the interpolation errors and softening.
I then use the 'save for web' option, and the 'Optimise to file size' settings, usually aiming for a 147k final size (to allow EXIF data to be reapplied without going over 150k)
This option varies the compression settings to find the optimial for the image. I've only had one 640 pixel wide image that I couldn't get to save under 150k. It had a lot of fine detail that would only save at an optimisation of 50 and there is a significant step change in quality between 50 and 51 in photoshop, due to a compression algorithm change that really screwed the final result (101k or 151k and nothing in between...)
Message edited by author 2003-05-27 10:54:38. |
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05/27/2003 11:02:18 AM · #18 |
Originally posted by Refracted:
it's not quite true that you're not losing quality when saving out of neatimage though.. not having the full version, i sometimes use it on some pics, but i am limited in that respect since if i use it for a print, if i zoom in closely, i can sometimes see the compression near sharp edges. And since it's just a shareware version of it, i have no choice than to save it as an over-compressed jpg. look cloely at your pictures.. ie, zoom 300.. 400% .. you'll see the compression neatimage adds.. |
I guess since I don't generally view my photos at that size I didn't really notice. I use it because it's perfect for the challenges. It might be noticable at 300% but no one ever looks at them at that size when they are voting. Thanks for the tip though. I'll have to look into that some more.
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