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07/04/2005 05:59:49 PM · #1 |
Now, first of all, I'm not trying to discredit the winners, honestly, I'm not, but reading what they did to their shots post processing, especially the blue ribbon I have to ask if this rule wasn't violated just a bit:
Selective Editing: Adjustments can be made selectively to your photo. Cloning, dodging, burning, etc. to improve your photo or remove imperfections or minor distracting elements, etc. is acceptable. However, using any editing tools to duplicate, create, or move major elements of your photograph is not permitted.
He removed an entire forest from the background using the tools, all the trees were removed, wouldn't that be considered a major element?
And the second place, again, a wonderful shot, truly it is but the application of the filter he used radically changed the shot overall, not leaving a lot of the original there, don't you think?
I'm not being a purist, just curious, because I have thought about doing some of the things they have but have seen shots in the past get disqualified for said things. Anyone?
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07/04/2005 07:54:24 PM · #2 |
I agree in principle, however it is hard to judge the extent of editing without seeing the original, and presumably SC has seen it. But indeed, this shot by KDO
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was DQ'ed for lightening up the background to a complete white. Frankly, I don't see much difference between that and darkening a well articulated BG to a complete black. To be sure, again, I'd like to see the orginial before making the call. If the trees and whatever else that had been in the BG, were very dark to begin with, it would be OK to blacken them in my opinion.
Message edited by author 2005-07-04 20:23:04.
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07/04/2005 08:02:48 PM · #3 |
| well, since the top 5 finishers have to submit originals, the SC will be able to see just how much editing was done, and they will be able to determine whether or not it was too much. until then, though, we can rampantly speculate and argue about it ;-) |
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07/04/2005 08:05:33 PM · #4 |
| Agree with Skip, speculation is not what we need. Facts are. However questioning something is a great freedom that never should be denied. My feeling looking at those winners is just awe, absolute greatness. |
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07/04/2005 08:08:49 PM · #5 |
Damn, just when I was about to rampantly speculate and argue too... 
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07/04/2005 08:17:12 PM · #6 |
| well, it appears that one of them has gone bye-bye... |
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07/04/2005 08:17:57 PM · #7 |
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07/04/2005 08:53:42 PM · #8 |
if i were to speculate, it wouldn't be necessarily about a particular image, but more about the minds of the voters...
given how much heated debate there has been over the topic of 'major elements' and the need for 'rules clarification', i can't see how some images can make it through a whole week of voting and viewing without getting a dq request, especially given how in tune some members seem to be with being able to detect what is done in post and what is done in camera... |
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07/04/2005 09:01:16 PM · #9 |
Originally posted by skiprow:
if i were to speculate, it wouldn't be necessarily about a particular image, but more about the minds of the voters...
given how much heated debate there has been over the topic of 'major elements' and the need for 'rules clarification', i can't see how some images can make it through a whole week of voting and viewing without getting a dq request, especially given how in tune some members seem to be with being able to detect what is done in post and what is done in camera... |
I'm kind of with you on this one.. it's the voters and the voting patterns that cause people to continually push the editing limits.. and then when they're DQ'd, you end up with.. "WHY!? That's such a great shot!!" Yah, ok, it's nice to look at, but it's still illegal.
I haven't been voting at all lately due to time constraints (or even entering really).. but had I voted on Leading Lines II, I can almost guarantee I'd have sent a DQ request in on the first place shot.. and possibly the second place.. and maybe even 12th through 42nd ;)
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07/04/2005 09:01:23 PM · #10 |
Originally posted by skiprow:
if i were to speculate, it wouldn't be necessarily about a particular image, but more about the minds of the voters...
given how much heated debate there has been over the topic of 'major elements' and the need for 'rules clarification', i can't see how some images can make it through a whole week of voting and viewing without getting a dq request, especially given how in tune some members seem to be with being able to detect what is done in post and what is done in camera... |
Had I the time to vote this past week I probably would have asked for a DQ request on the blue ribbon winner simply because, while a stunning shot the black seems a bit unnatural to me and the lines along the rail and right side of the wood walk seem a bit forced to me. But alas I did not have time to vote or even look through the shots last week so I didn't get that chance. I'm just saying with the comments the photographers themselves made about what they did to the shots seems a reason for a DQ request, even if they didn't place in the top 5.
Deannda
Not a purist per say but curious just how far we are allowed to go in post editing |
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