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05/17/2005 06:52:42 PM · #26 |
Originally posted by Prof_Fate:
Originally posted by sprite777:
Originally posted by Prof_Fate:
That is a hypothetical amount.
If it was $30,000 would that make it more interesting, or difficult to deal with? |
Probably both. "Interesting" and "difficult" are not antonyms, for the record.
And yeah, I'd have a tough time dealing with the tax thing on that, too, but honesty is a good thing, and a year from the point where I paid the tax on it, I'm sure I wouldn't mind losing a chunk of money, particularly if it wasn't mine to start. |
You find $5, you spend it no thoughts required.
You find a $20 bill, same thing.
You find $2500... maybe. Not a huge sum, any BestBuy can eat that up in a heartbeat. IF you want to put it into the bank (to pay off debt or invest it, etc) then you have a whole bunch of questions to ask...tax related as well as if they are being traced at all (by serial number for exapmle).
ONe must keep cash transactions below $10,000 in a day (there is a federal form you have to deal with it you exceed this figure).
if it is $30,000 - that much filtering into your bank might attract attention, so yo need a story. Perhaps 'i found it' is sufficiant...any law that requires you to do something with fond property before you can keep it? all i found was this and it is some local ordinance someplace. The old 'ignorance of the law' thing is not a defense (so i am told by bar room laywers and TV showz) |
Hypothetically speaking...it would probably be in better interests NOT to put it into the bank....no paper trail...pardon me, no hypothetical paper trail.
However, if you want to be more legit..it might not be a bad idea to consider donating it to a couple of charities who can give you a receipt for a tax refund. But i think (from the little i know about taxes!) that you can only get a refund for a much smaller amount than you hypothetical question suggests. |
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05/17/2005 06:55:09 PM · #27 |
| My son, when he was about 6 years old, found $28.00 on the floor of a hardware store. I had him turn it in at the customer service desk. They put it in an envelope and said they would give it to the owner (if they came forward and said they lost $28.00). I think it was a good lesson in ethics for him. I called the store back two weeks later and they said nobody claimed it. Joshua bought pizza for the family that night! :) |
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05/17/2005 06:58:15 PM · #28 |
Originally posted by soup:
i would use it to experiment with the genetics of my money tree. i can't get it to grow green leaves... |
I know the problem with money multiplication - all the bills have old men on them - none can bear fruit and are too old anyway. As for coins, Susan B and Sakajawiea, and of course old lady liberty, are not exacly of breeding age.
We need a $10 bill with a young, fertile female on it. THEN we can see some action! LOL |
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05/17/2005 06:59:18 PM · #29 |
| so much hypothetical detail |
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05/17/2005 06:59:30 PM · #30 |
Originally posted by Prof_Fate:
Originally posted by soup:
i would use it to experiment with the genetics of my money tree. i can't get it to grow green leaves... |
I know the problem with money multiplication - all the bills have old men on them - none can bear fruit and are too old anyway. As for coins, Susan B and Sakajawiea, and of course old lady liberty, are not exacly of breeding age.
We need a $10 bill with a young, fertile female on it. THEN we can see some action! LOL |
Condaleeza Rice? (sp?) |
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05/17/2005 07:04:04 PM · #31 |
Originally posted by Jewellian:
who are you and what have you done with brad? ;) j/k I feel the same way. |
Funny how money can bring out the worst in people too - well not funny really.
I figure it this way: If I get myself into debt (which I'm not), then I should be responsible enough to get myself back out of debt, and not at someone else's expense through being greedy.
I didn't have it in my pocket before I found it, so giving it up isn't a loss really, as it wasn't mine to start with.
Oh and he's hog-tied in the back room, with toothpicks keeping his eyes open, while being made to look at advertisement pictures of all the Nikon & Canon dSLR's. Figure he needed to be punished for all the sarcasm and dime store humor he has inflicted on this site in the past year.
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05/17/2005 07:06:26 PM · #32 |
Originally posted by BradP:
Make EVERY attempt to find out who it belonged to get it back to them.
Finding a $20 bill on the sidewalk is different.
A large bag of money lost isn't an oh darn - shucks - drat - oh well kind of thing, and if the rightful owner / media / whatever source never spoke up, would probably find a suitable charity to donate it to.
Guess I have never been a greedy person and if I did keep it/use it, I would always have the nagging conscience that someone out there may have lost their life savings. At least a charity could put it to good use for those less fortunate than I. |
nagging thoughts on our minds...
ransom money...the dog is dead now. (well, not enough money for a person...)
drug deal has now gone bad. Dumb and Dumber, as they are being shot/beaten/given cement shoes are heard saying "I told you not to put the money there..."
Beleive me, the hypothetical money was NOT in a location where it could have gotten there accidentally. It was put there on purpose. We hypothetically found it behind a geochache on a lonely country road. It was with a cache. Well, the only way it could have been put there was to remove the cache and replace it - it was labeled as to what it was..anyone with 1/2 a brain woould have NOT put anythhing there they did not want found. It might be part of a game. Only Dumb and Dumber would have left it there on purpose otherwise.
And don't old wives tales have some value - "Finders keepers" and 'Don't look a gift horse in the mouth'?
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05/17/2005 07:16:51 PM · #33 |
Originally posted by Prof_Fate:
Originally posted by sprite777:
Originally posted by Prof_Fate:
That is a hypothetical amount.
If it was $30,000 would that make it more interesting, or difficult to deal with? |
Probably both. "Interesting" and "difficult" are not antonyms, for the record.
And yeah, I'd have a tough time dealing with the tax thing on that, too, but honesty is a good thing, and a year from the point where I paid the tax on it, I'm sure I wouldn't mind losing a chunk of money, particularly if it wasn't mine to start. |
You find $5, you spend it no thoughts required.
You find a $20 bill, same thing.
You find $2500... maybe. Not a huge sum, any BestBuy can eat that up in a heartbeat. IF you want to put it into the bank (to pay off debt or invest it, etc) then you have a whole bunch of questions to ask...tax related as well as if they are being traced at all (by serial number for exapmle).
ONe must keep cash transactions below $10,000 in a day (there is a federal form you have to deal with it you exceed this figure).
if it is $30,000 - that much filtering into your bank might attract attention, so yo need a story. Perhaps 'i found it' is sufficiant...any law that requires you to do something with fond property before you can keep it? all i found was this and it is some local ordinance someplace. The old 'ignorance of the law' thing is not a defense (so i am told by bar room laywers and TV showz) |
Who puts $30k in a bag anyway? In all seriousness, you need to go to the sherriff's office if you can't find out who it belongs to. That is, bottom-line, someone's money. And you have no idea how it got to that bag or why it was where it was. It probably didn't belong to the people who left it in the bag anyway.
Concerning a comparison of finding a $20 bill and a bag full of money, there is more of a difference than just what the finder does with the money. You have to take into consideration that one reason a bag of money is different is because the one who lost it may have done so under drastically harsher circumstances. It's an issue of conscience at this point, I think.
Message edited by author 2005-05-17 19:22:19. |
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05/17/2005 07:18:21 PM · #34 |
And then the spaceship lands... ;o)
(sorry I had to interject a bit of "City Slickers" humor in here somehow) |
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05/17/2005 07:21:32 PM · #35 |
Originally posted by Prof_Fate:
And don't old wives tales have some value - "Finders keepers" and 'Don't look a gift horse in the mouth'? |
The first one is more from the playground than an old wife. And the latter, never head of it... And i suppose you are using "gift" loosely. |
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05/17/2005 07:24:49 PM · #36 |
| first of all $2500 isn't gonna do much more for me than pay my amex bill for the month....but lets see....ahhhhhh i got it throw an apple on top of the pile of money ...shoot the photo and submit it before midnight.... |
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05/17/2005 07:55:57 PM · #37 |
Originally posted by GoldBerry:
... what good would come of it if you turned it into the cops? ... |
You would have a clear conscience.
You could sleep well knowing that you were not keeping someone else's money.
You could look in the mirror and not suspect you may be looking at a thief.
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05/17/2005 10:23:02 PM · #38 |
If you found it at a geocache it's a gift. That's how those work. I've heard of people finding some valuable stuff. $2500 isn't that much money, especially for the rich adventurers with modern equipment. Funny thing is the person who left it there thinks they did a random good deed and made some poorer hiker's day but instead they caused you all this trouble. Money does that. If it was me I would keep it and spend it without a second thought. If it is a game then let the games begin! hypothetically
Message edited by author 2005-05-17 22:23:45. |
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05/17/2005 10:25:54 PM · #39 |
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05/17/2005 10:32:15 PM · #40 |
If I found it, I would take note of the serial numbers to see if they are consecutive. Chances are it's from a bank or some other robbery if there no markings.
Next step would be to wait and see if anyone reports it.
What would I do with it? There would be lots I could do with it but I'd use it to go and visit my ill father in Australia. |
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05/17/2005 10:40:43 PM · #41 |
| I think I could have lost $2,500.00 - they were $100.00's you say - hmmmmmmmmmm Possible :P |
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05/17/2005 10:42:53 PM · #42 |
I think I may have read the following somewhere on this site, perhaps on someone's sig. I'm probably not being verbatim, but it went something like:
Character is doing the right thing, even when you know there's nobody looking.
Good luck...
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05/17/2005 10:47:30 PM · #43 |
Donate the money to //www.neads.org, so more people liike me can have trained assistance dogs. A very worthy cause, and you can feel good about the whole episode :-)
Robt.
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05/17/2005 10:59:49 PM · #44 |
Originally posted by sprite777:
Who puts $30k in a bag anyway? |
Yeah, everybody knows that you put that kinda money in a coffee can.
;P |
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05/17/2005 11:00:30 PM · #45 |
I wouldn't touch the money (at least for awhile) but I'd take it as an excellant photo op, wait and see who (if) picked it up, and take many images.
I would make so much money on the photos loosing the oportunity to "keep" the money wouldn't bother me.
Message edited by author 2005-05-17 23:03:03. |
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05/17/2005 11:03:11 PM · #46 |
Originally posted by Prof_Fate:
found a bag of money. Lets say $2500 in $100 bills
What would (or should) you do? |
take it to the cops.....and hopefully it would be returned to the rightful owner.
Message edited by author 2005-05-17 23:09:21. |
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05/17/2005 11:10:55 PM · #47 |
So, now everyone knows you found my bag of cash.
PM me for my p.o. box, as I am anxiously awaiting it's safe return.
Thanks in advance,
Beth |
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05/17/2005 11:11:17 PM · #48 |
If you truly found it with a geocache, there are websites aplenty regarding these. You could easily pinpoint the cache in question and the site will probably have a forum where you can discreetly follow talk about the cache. Might prove interesting...
...that said (and under those conditions) I would spend away. BTW, if it was IN a geocache, did you leave anything in return? Thems the rules ya know.
Message edited by author 2005-05-17 23:12:05. |
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05/17/2005 11:13:04 PM · #49 |
i would send it to
Cory
324 Anderson Ave.
Orlando FL |
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05/17/2005 11:21:17 PM · #50 |
| Well, for that kind of money, you could buy a century of DPC memberships. You could be the first lifetime DPC member. |
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