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 04/06/2003 03:07:09 AM · #1
desided to check DPC prints again... I have a good camera, but the pixel sizes and DPI ratios just dont seem to translate to what I get from my camera... what kinda of camera is able to take shots with a 10000+ pixel size in one direction... I cant even get close to that

for that matter I can not even do a 300dpi 8x10 with a 4 mega pixel camera

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 04/06/2003 10:40:09 AM · #2
first.. you need to resample your image. There are some tutorials on this in the Learn Section of this site.

Creating Printable Images

A Quick Visual Guide to Resampling

Basic Image Sharpening of Digital Photographs

and the "Seller's Tips" page might all prove helpful.

You should be able to get excellent prints out of your 4 MP camera,... so long as you haven't cropped too much out of the photo to get the resulting image. Even then, there is room for good prints.
 04/06/2003 11:27:38 AM · #3
oh I can print great prints here at home on my canon S900... wonderful 8x10's

the tutorials don't help as I do not have photoshop...



....sigh
 04/06/2003 11:46:02 AM · #4
With the software you use.. are there options that are comparable that will do the same thing?
 04/06/2003 01:28:18 PM · #5
yes, corel photo paint.. but I hate using it because when you open a photo file with it, the program somehow changes the properties of the photo before I make any changes... so I end up having to adjust balance, color, contrast, brightness, etc even when I did not need too
 04/06/2003 02:13:51 PM · #6
Jeff,
Download Irfanview, it's free, and does a great job with resizing.
 04/06/2003 05:34:55 PM · #7
Originally posted by Anachronite:


for that matter I can not even do a 300dpi 8x10 with a 4 mega pixel camera


I have a Kodak LS443 and I don't have any trouble getting 8x10 at 300dpi. I followed the directions on the "Creating Printable Images" tutorial and it seems to work just great.

I've taken many of my images to the Walmart here and used their digital to photograph system (I hate ink jet prints) and they've all come out beautiful.

Try that tutorial and if you don't have Photoshop, try //www.irfanview.com for a free manipulation program that works great. I'm still trying to decide if it's worth the hassle of learning Photoshop when this one works so well for me.

Shari
 04/06/2003 07:10:07 PM · #8
oh my camera does like 2200 x 1700... not quite the level the tutorial says fopr 300 dpi, but the 8 x 10's come out fine... just wish things were easier with the programs I have.. guess I am gonna have to break down sometime and get photoshop
 04/06/2003 07:30:10 PM · #9
Originally posted by Anachronite:
oh my camera does like 2200 x 1700... not quite the level the tutorial says fopr 300 dpi, but the 8 x 10's come out fine... just wish things were easier with the programs I have.. guess I am gonna have to break down sometime and get photoshop


The tutorial doesn't expect an image to be at 300dpi right out of the cam in an 8x10 format. The tutorial shows you how to get the image to 300dpi. I only have adobe software so I can't do a tutorial that parallels this one on some other program. I tried to find someone to do this for PSP but no one would step forward to tackle the task :)

04/06/2003 07:35:41 PM · #10
I could tell you how I do it in Paint shop, but I'm not real sure of myself, and only guess . . . .
 04/06/2003 07:39:46 PM · #11
Originally posted by karmat:
I could tell you how I do it in Paint shop, but I'm not real sure of myself, and only guess . . . .


What we really need is a writeup with picture examples to put up as a tutorial on the site...

04/06/2003 07:57:57 PM · #12
John, I sent you some info on PSP and resizing, but the only way possible to do it is to download the freeware FOTOCROP II. What did I not get in it that you needed???
 04/06/2003 08:03:00 PM · #13
Originally posted by kandyj:
John, I sent you some info on PSP and resizing, but the only way possible to do it is to download the freeware FOTOCROP II. What did I not get in it that you needed???


I didn't get a written tutorial to post to the site :)

I wasn't looking for an opportunity for me to write another tutorial... I was hoping someone else would step up to the plate this time :)


04/06/2003 08:26:34 PM · #14
Sorry, I though I sent it to you. I saved it, and will resend through your email address. Check it in a little while and let me know if it came through.
 04/06/2003 08:55:58 PM · #15
paintshop pro? egaads.. what about Corel Photo Paint? hehe thats my software :o) thanks for all the help guys
 04/06/2003 09:09:36 PM · #16
Originally posted by kandyj:
Sorry, I though I sent it to you. I saved it, and will resend through your email address. Check it in a little while and let me know if it came through.


If you have a tutorial written, send it to Drew...

04/06/2003 10:41:41 PM · #17
Originally posted by Anachronite:
paintshop pro? egaads.. what about Corel Photo Paint? hehe thats my software :o) thanks for all the help guys


I have the CorelDraw 11 suite of software, which includes PhotoPaint (as you know Anachronite)...I actually only use PhotoPaint to do edits that aren't allowed at DPC, like dodging, burning and other paint applications. You should be able to do everything you want with CorelDraw. Still, from what I've read of the PhotoShop methodology, it is very similar in PhotoPaint. I could write a duplicate of John's tutorial for PhotoPaint, it just may take me a week to get at it.

The key is to select Image > Resample. You'll get a dialogue box which has current image width and height, in selectable units such as inches, pixels, picas (what's a pica anyways?). Choose inches (the default) and then at the bottom of the box, make sure that the Anti-alias, Maintain aspect ratio and Maintain original size boxes are all checked. Then, go to the Resolution boxes - horizontal and vertical. They should say 72 each. Pump those babies up to 300 and see what happens to the image width and height - they go down. Fiddle with those DPI values until you have the maximum DPI to cover 8 inches by 10 inches. Then click OK.

Now, hit the crop tool in the toolbar on the left - it should be third fromt he top if you haven't changed anything. Select it and the toolbar at the top changes to give you the crop options. Select 8 x 10 from the dropdown box, and make sure that 300 is selected in the box to the right. You can swap portrait and landscape with the button to the right. A box will show up in the window, defining the area that will be cropped 8x10 at 300dpi. Move the box (don't resize it!) and double-click to crop out the area. Hey presto, you have an 8x10 at the highest resolution possible out of your camera.

Hope that helps. I can put this out as a tutorial if there's enough interest...I didn't think that many people used CorelDraw...

James.

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