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 03/29/2003 01:13:18 AM · #1
I'm just new here. I was wondering if there is an extent of hue and Saturation that is deemed unacceptible here.

For instance I too a picture of a stainless steel plate. I was tring a few things out in PSP, like adding color using the Hue and Saturation setting, transforming the plain steel color for a vibrant green or red. Is this acceptible?

Hue and Saturation is listed in the rules, but in this instance it make the image look surreal. All the images I have seen here so far are more 'true to life' pics or effects mostly created by lighting and optical filers (that I can tell).
 03/29/2003 01:38:49 AM · #2
Check the second place photo for the "Green" competition from a few days ago. That photo was altered with functions like hue and saturation (probably exactly like). If it won a ribbon, I guess it's legal. Plus, if you check the rules (under the "Challenges" tab) you will find it is legal.
 03/29/2003 01:39:13 AM · #3
As long as its applied globally to the whole image it should be ok as far as the rules are concerned... That is, your image wouldn't be DQ'd on the grounds that it was an "unnatural" color. But I encourage you to read through the rules just to be sure.

Now, that said, you can get into trouble with voters that don't care for that kind of thing and vote your pic down. On the other hand, some folks may like it and score it well. You never know. That's part of the charm of DPChallenge!
03/29/2003 02:12:45 AM · #4
I entered my first photo this week and I gave a lot of thought to the hue and saturation on my shot. The ones of mine I REALLY liked were very over saturated and surreal as you put it. I figured this is a photography contest, and not an art contest, so I entered a photo without all the additional stuff I like. I think you need to start out with a pretty good photograph if you are planning to do a good job of artistically altering it. But I was afraid people here might not think that way without having seen the original photo. I keep kicking myself for not having entered the one I liked best, but for a first shot, I didn’t want to fall flat on my face. Maybe next time.
 03/29/2003 04:58:37 AM · #5
I think your assessment of this being a photography contest not an art contest is about right: severely mangled about shots won't do as well for that reason - but that's only my impression of the way people vote here; there's nothing I've read that says that is actually the case.

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 03/29/2003 09:39:37 AM · #6
If it is done properly, this tool can be very effective. I use it often, mostly just for tweeking the colours, but I have changed several pictures drastically. This one was actually red to start, and this one was a much deeper red/orange. I think the changes were not so noticeable.
On the other hand, this one bombed because the saturation was excessive and very noticeable.

I think the idea is to make sure the picture remains believable.

Good luck!

Message edited by author 2003-03-29 09:40:14.
 03/30/2003 09:09:54 AM · #7
OK, so you are saying:

1) Any amount of Hue and Saturation (applies to the whole image of course) is legal.

2) But to score big I have to play to the opinion of the masses (ie Voters) and only use it to enhance the image, not alter it.

I guess don't need to score big. I'll enter the one I like. :-)

Thanks Guys
 03/30/2003 09:27:11 AM · #8
As one might expect, this group tends to be on the conservative side but it scores images high if you apply rules of good photography to a technically well constructed image.

If you are demanding of yourself and your images it will show and you will be rewarded by the voters.

If you score low and honestly review your image you will understand why it scored low. That is how photographers learn and improve.
 03/30/2003 02:20:42 PM · #9
Originally posted by Fiver:
I'll enter the one I like. :-)


This is what I do, and makes the most sense. This way you find out how your taste and thinking differs from the masses, and what it will take to "please" them all when you WANT to.
I have not scored over a 6 since I started on here, even though I entered one for Macro that I think will break this mark for me.
Here are ones I really liked and submitted, but they all seem to be in 4.5-5.0 area here.
//www.dpchallenge.com/image.php?IMAGE_ID=14654
//www.dpchallenge.com/image.php?IMAGE_ID=12949
//www.dpchallenge.com/image.php?IMAGE_ID=14875
Good Luck and do what works for you...if not then it is no fun anymore.

Message edited by author 2003-03-30 14:28:33.
 03/31/2003 01:32:05 PM · #10
Originally posted by Gringo:
I entered my first photo this week and I gave a lot of thought to the hue and saturation on my shot. The ones of mine I REALLY liked were very over saturated and surreal as you put it. I figured this is a photography contest, and not an art contest, so I entered a photo without all the additional stuff I like. I think you need to start out with a pretty good photograph if you are planning to do a good job of artistically altering it. But I was afraid people here might not think that way without having seen the original photo. I keep kicking myself for not having entered the one I liked best, but for a first shot, I didn’t want to fall flat on my face. Maybe next time.


Thanks for all the votes and comments on my first entry this week. I had to choose from these ideas. Any comments on how one of these might have done?... I hope I do this right.....
//www.pbase.com/photogringo/photos
 03/31/2003 02:15:03 PM · #11
Originally posted by Gringo:
Thanks for all the votes and comments on my first entry this week. I had to choose from these ideas. Any comments on how one of these might have done?... I hope I do this right.....
//www.pbase.com/photogringo/photos

Oh ... my ... god !!!
That was your first entry? God help us all when you get the hang of this place ; )
Your entry was a cracking shot, I think I'm safe in saying that you went with the right one, and didn't fall flat on your face at all.

Of the others I like 'burn' but the colours are probably too rich. 'Aged' I like a *lot* - everything looks charred, and the cans in the window being in B&W looks really good.
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