Out of the Camera - DPChallenge Forums

Nikon AF Nikkor 50mm f/1.8D

02/10/2005 05:53:59 PM · #1

Am sure its been suggested (even done) before but lets have an 'out of the camera' challenge where the only editing thats allowed is to resize the image.

deapee

Kodak V803

02/10/2005 05:56:00 PM · #2

What about if you shoot in RAW, you can't set the white balance? How about adjusting sharpening or shadows while we're at it? What if you shoot vertically and you don't have a camera that auto-flips it -- would you be allowed to flip it?

rex

Canon PowerShot SD780

02/10/2005 05:58:02 PM · #3

I think this would be an excellent challenge!!!!!

gwphoto

02/10/2005 05:58:11 PM · #4

That sounds like fun. Only edit I can see is to rotate 90 degrees. Everything else straight out of the camera. Back to the old days.

Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS

02/10/2005 05:59:12 PM · #5

Originally posted by gwphoto:

That sounds like fun. Only edit I can see is to rotate 90 degrees. Everything else straight out of the camera. Back to the old days.

Does that mean we can use film?

scalvert

Canon EOS-5D Mark III

02/10/2005 05:59:53 PM · #6

Why not just mandate "JPEG only" for the purposes of the challenge, and avoid any RAW advantage?

deapee

Kodak V803

Nikon AF Nikkor 50mm f/1.8D

02/10/2005 06:00:14 PM · #7

Originally posted by gwphoto:

That sounds like fun. Only edit I can see is to rotate 90 degrees. Everything else straight out of the camera. Back to the old days.

why should you be allowed to rotate it but nothing else -- if it's nothing, it should be nothing.

gwphoto

Nikon AF-S DX Zoom-Nikkor 18-70mm f/3.5-4.5G IF-ED

02/10/2005 06:00:17 PM · #8

Does that mean we can use film?

Isn't this a digital site? No film....

aronya1

Nikon D70

02/10/2005 06:00:24 PM · #9

Great idea

02/10/2005 06:02:48 PM · #10

Originally posted by gwphoto:

Does that mean we can use film?

Isn't this a digital site? No film....

You said back to the old days. Film is not that far back.

So what about those of us who shoot in RAW? You never answered that question.

gwphoto

02/10/2005 06:06:59 PM · #11

You said back to the old days.
Film is not that far back. I meant without photoshop...

So what about those of us who shoot in RAW?
You never answered that question. Shoot Raw and simple conversion to jpg with out anything else. I can shoot raw too, but the idea as I understand it is to see what you can do with a camera not with photoshop.

Canon EF-S 55-250mm f/4-5.6 IS

02/10/2005 06:07:10 PM · #12

Originally posted by nsbca7:

[quote=gwphoto]
So what about those of us who shoot in RAW? You never answered that question.

This was just a challenge suggestion but I'd suggest if it ever came about you'd hit the jpeg button on your cam ;)

Canon EOS-60D

02/10/2005 06:10:44 PM · #13

The Past was a challenge where the only editing allowed was resizing.

Bear_Music

Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra

Sony 24-70mm F4 Vario-Tessar T* FE OSS

02/10/2005 06:14:10 PM · #14

That was a kewl challenge, Laurie. We ought to do that one twice a year... Or more often. NO editing, Nada, Zip. Rotation and resizing, nothing more. No borders allowed.

Robt.

02/10/2005 06:18:21 PM · #15

Originally posted by gwphoto:

See the thing about shooting RAW is that I can ajust exposure, contrast, saturation, curves, ect.. before it opens in Photoshop. This would not be a level playing field for anyone who did not have Photoshop CS or who has a camera that does not shoot in raw mode.
If the rules were set up so that you couldn't alter the image at all after it came from the camera then it would have to be done on an honor basis. It would be imposible to enforce otherwise.

02/10/2005 06:20:00 PM · #16

Originally posted by Ecce Signum:

Originally posted by nsbca7:
[quote=gwphoto]
So what about those of us who shoot in RAW? You never answered that question.

This was just a challenge suggestion but I'd suggest if it ever came about you'd hit the jpeg button on your cam ;)

Not all digital cameras have a jpg button. Some only shoot in RAW.

Gordon

RIM BlackBerry Curve

Canon EF 85mm f/1.8 USM

02/10/2005 06:23:31 PM · #17

Originally posted by nsbca7:

Originally posted by Ecce Signum:

Originally posted by nsbca7:
[quote=gwphoto]
So what about those of us who shoot in RAW? You never answered that question.

This was just a challenge suggestion but I'd suggest if it ever came about you'd hit the jpeg button on your cam ;)

Not all digital cameras have a jpg button. Some only shoot in RAW.

Then those people might actually not be able to enter, using that camera.

I suspect you wont find many users on this site, with access to camera that only works in RAW mode, who don't also happen to have a camera that'd take a JPEG somewhere around that would be capable of producing a reasonable 640x480 shot.

After all, if it was supposed to be easy or let you do anything you liked every week, it wouldn't be much of a challenge ?

Same with not being able to do after the fact white balance, exposure adjustment and so on. Might make it more challenging to set things up in the camera.

It isn't like the proposal is to change the basic editing rules...

02/10/2005 06:52:28 PM · #18

Originally posted by Gordon:

Originally posted by nsbca7:

Originally posted by Ecce Signum:

Originally posted by nsbca7:
[quote=gwphoto]
So what about those of us who shoot in RAW? You never answered that question.

This was just a challenge suggestion but I'd suggest if it ever came about you'd hit the jpeg button on your cam ;)

Not all digital cameras have a jpg button. Some only shoot in RAW.

Then those people might actually not be able to enter, using that camera.

I suspect you wont find many users on this site, with access to camera that only works in RAW mode, who don't also happen to have a camera that'd take a JPEG somewhere around that would be capable of producing a reasonable 640x480 shot.

28 users on DP.

wewillexplore

Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS USM

02/10/2005 06:53:56 PM · #19

Originally posted by nsbca7:

28 users on DP.

You have a D300 listed in your profile. How many of those 28 have another, JPG'able cam?

02/10/2005 06:57:18 PM · #20

Originally posted by mavrik:

Originally posted by nsbca7:
28 users on DP.

You have a D300 listed in your profile. How many of those 28 have another, JPG'able cam?

02/10/2005 07:00:42 PM · #21

I find it quite interesting that this challenge suggestion has received so much attention - thanks KDO.

If it were to only upset 28 members then it would be a well received challenge. If I were to have suggested flowers I'm sure more people would have been upset lol.

As for raw images (I'm starting to like shooting raw), does the original exif dater differ from that of a raw image saved to a jepeg? ie, could the sc tell if a jpeg was originally a raw image or had been manipulated?

02/10/2005 07:02:50 PM · #22

Originally posted by Ecce Signum:

does the original exif dater differ from that of a raw image saved to a jepeg? ie, could the sc tell if a jpeg was originally a raw image or had been manipulated?

Yes. It is easy to tell.

02/10/2005 07:03:09 PM · #23

Originally posted by nsbca7:

Originally posted by mavrik:

Originally posted by nsbca7:
28 users on DP.

You have a D300 listed in your profile. How many of those 28 have another, JPG'able cam?

?

I think mavrik is asking if you (and other 1DS owners) could not pick up you rebels or whatever you own as a backup cam.